I've been getting real into BJD :autism: and drama due to an attempt to cheer up after a rough couple days and an assignment I'm doing my absolute best to procrastinate over.
I heard someone on lolcow.farm mention a crazy person who apparently painted a doll in her own lady-blood though. Ew. Didn't they kill animals too or am I thinking of someone else?
I find a lot of BJDs creepy (particularly the furry/elf/weird supernatural ones) but there are 3 exceptions I seem to have found in my curiosity search - the 1st is the tiny Soom Dubu doll since it's eye shape is cute and 2nd/3rd are those volks doll based on Jo and Beth March from Little Women since I love the book and the dolls are super beautiful but all are sold out. (and the Little Women ones are limited edition so they will probably cost even more than the original price of $850+ if I ever buy them someday, RIP).
I've been getting real into BJD :autism: and drama due to an attempt to cheer up after a rough couple days and an assignment I'm doing my absolute best to procrastinate over.
I heard someone on lolcow.farm mention a crazy person who apparently painted a doll in her own lady-blood though. Ew. Didn't they kill animals too or am I thinking of someone else?
I find a lot of BJDs creepy (particularly the furry/elf/weird supernatural ones) but there are 3 exceptions I seem to have found in my curiosity search - the 1st is the tiny Soom Dubu doll since it's eye shape is cute and 2nd/3rd are those volks doll based on Jo and Beth March from Little Women since I love the book and the dolls are super beautiful but all are sold out. (and the Little Women ones are limited edition so they will probably cost even more than the original price of $850+ if I ever buy them someday, RIP). View attachment 195930View attachment 195934View attachment 195937
Yeah, the majority of Volks resin dolls are limited edition, so they're incredibly expensive to get secondhand. Volks mostly deals with the vinyl doll market--dollfie dreams and such. But even then, certain Dollfie head sculpts are super rare and incredibly expensive. A few examples would be the DDS Kagamine Len, whose simply expensive because he's one of... 2? Dollfies who are male. Plus the vocaloid community is huge. There's also Mariko, who I think is super expensive because her head sculpt is very appealing.
I heard someone on lolcow.farm mention a crazy person who apparently painted a doll in her own lady-blood though. Ew. Didn't they kill animals too or am I thinking of someone else?
X_Kazakai_X used blood to paint her dolls. She was a tryhard edgy transtrender before it was cool. (10 years or so ago, so... If you have a DoA account, the thread is here)
Unless someone else has popped up who admitted to doing that. Granted I don't really browse the forums, just the MPs and feedback. It has it's own set of horrors, like people sending out dirty dolls, recasts being sold as legit for full price, or ones smelling of smoke, etc.
It also depends on how big the doll is. The bigger the doll, the more materials needed, thus the higher the price. IIRC Resinsoul sells their dolls for cheaper.
It's also not really a hobby where you buy something and you get it immediately, unless it's for in-stock items such as wigs or eyes. A lot of newbies hate the wait times and want it NOW NOW NOW NOW.
I imagine that's where a lot of the financial woes come in. I could see someone being able to "reasonably" afford these collectibles if they are patient enough to wait to get their doll fully put together, but not also spend a huge lump sum of cash all at once, and hurt your bank account.
But I imagine a lot of people can't wait. They want their doll to have all it's clothes, eyes, wig, etc. as soon as possible so they can show it off on the BJD forums they belong to (or a meetups).
(EDIT: A bit off topic, but seriously, I just have to say some people on KF are really fucking autistic when it comes to the Power level rating. OH NO! I said I was going to buy a Hot Toys Joker doll! Clearly, I'm THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD who is going to buy this and people will easily be able to figure out who I am based on that information alone!)
I imagine that's where a lot of the financial woes come in. I could see someone being able to "reasonably" afford these collectibles if they are patient enough to wait to get their doll fully put together, but not also spend a huge lump sum of cash all at once, and hurt your bank account.
But I imagine a lot of people can't wait. They want their doll to have all it's clothes, eyes, wig, etc. as soon as possible so they can show it off on the BJD forums they belong to (or a meetups).
(EDIT: A bit off topic, but seriously, I just have to say some people on KF are really fucking autistic when it comes to the Power level rating. OH NO! I said I was going to buy a Hot Toys Joker doll! Clearly, I'm THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD who is going to buy this and people will easily be able to figure out who I am based on that information alone!)
More companies are allowing a layaway option, so people don't have to spend so much money at once, and it's easier for people who have limited budgets.
The wait time also factors in to newbies who buy recasts. They don't want to wait so long, so they buy a cheap knockoff that could be made of flimsy resin and could break easily.
Okay, so this thing is huge at the moment, and it's still something I'm gathering caps on an organizing them, so bear with me here.
This begins with a callout post on tumblr (archive) that was made by an anonymous author earlier tonight. As the post states, it began when Danya came across a wig maker in New Zealand, a 17 year old girl who made cosplay wigs for people. Danya on the other hand, creates wigs for ball-jointed dolls (a community watch thread is here). Not only that, but they're cheap, low quality faux fur wigs that, according to some posts on a confession blog (archive), are horrible quality.
Besides that though, drama ensued. After posting screenshots of the small-time wig maker on her private Facebook--of which she has (or rather, had, after expunging her friends list of 'double agents') 500+ friends to jeer, mock, and wank each other with petty gossip--her friends predictably got riled up, and one of them actually went to the young girl's facebook page and demanded that she change the name. A person by the name of Charlotte Momoe, who would come to be known as Amanda Sue Wilson, called this person out for their behavior and defended the girl. According to the tumblr callout, Amanda also called out Danya for taking down her warning post in 2 groups, a warning post meant to get others aware of a scammer.
After the confrontation, Danya chimped the fuck out, proceeded to find everything about Amanda, stalk her 13 year old daughter's instagram, and post her dox for her friends to see. She even had an entire note on her facebook page, painting herself as the one being stalked, even though she was the one posting Amanda's dox everywhere.
The blog truebjdconfessions (archive) is currently being flooded with confessions shittalking Danya, with a few white knighting her interspersed in between. This post will be updated/cleaned up over time as I uncover more shit. For now, the dust has settled.
Had to come here after reading the Dana thread to find more. This community is fucking eye opening. This seems to be a community made up entirely of Steve Carrell's character from Dinner for Schmucks.
Had to come here after reading the Dana thread to find more. This community is fucking eye opening. This seems to be a community made up entirely of Steve Carrell's character from Dinner for Schmucks.
What I find so bizzare is the whole RECASTS ARE EVIL REEEEEEE!!!!! thing I just find it weird, In the 1/6 action figure community recasts/bootlegs are accepted, because there are times they are actually better then the official figure with improvements in the paint apps and sculpt and are much cheaper, hell recasts/bootlegs are really dominant in the 1/6 market.
What I find so bizzare is the whole RECASTS ARE EVIL REEEEEEE!!!!! thing I just find it weird, In the 1/6 action figure community recasts/bootlegs are accepted, because there are times they are actually better then the official figure with improvements in the paint apps and sculpt and are much cheaper, hell recasts/bootlegs are really dominant in the 1/6 market.
Because the BJD companies (in general) consist of 1-5 people and it hits them when a Chinese bootlegger can mass produce each doll for less than half price. It's considered a more intimate hobby, especially when the creators are invited to Western cons or decide to stop going due to bootlegs.
What a stupid hobby. Yet another hoard obsession for the stay-at-home adult autistic children of rich parents.
I do see that there is a crafting side to the hobby, but really it just seems like a money sink. Is being a consumer really a hobby?
If you live with mom and have hundreds of dollars of dolls, Transformers, Joker figurines, whatever...Hell, even if you work hard, I don't give a shit, you are less than. What a waste.
What a stupid hobby. Yet another hoard obsession for the stay-at-home adult autistic children of rich parents.
I do see that there is a crafting side to the hobby, but really it just seems like a money sink. Is being a consumer really a hobby?
If you live with mom and have hundreds of dollars of dolls, Transformers, Joker figurines, whatever...Hell, even if you work hard, I don't give a shit, you are less than. What a waste.
As a rule of thumb, BJD's made by small makers or those that are already cheap do not, or very rarely, get recasted and sold since there wouldn't be much of a point. I've seen far more company dolls for sale and limited event dolls that are being scalped by second hand sellers. If I ran the numbers then I doubt that buying a recast company doll does them as much a blow as a recast small artist doll would. Recast dolls also lack the whole elitism stigma since you're a broke ass who likes something pretty but has other priorities than saving pennies for a 14cm tall and naked doll at $150usd.
These companies seem to be plagued by bad quality control, shite customer service and been caught copying/recasting each other and the anti recasters don't seem to mind this as they continue to shill their cash and complain.
The debate usually feels like an artsy version of the Games Workshop debacle. But instead of doing something about the sellers bad behavior, you let it go and burn the heretics.
There are some exceptions- one company I know is tiny and full of wonderful people who bend over backwards to help you, and their little dolls are lovingly crafted but only (?) about $200-$300 or so. I have *heard* that there are recasts of them available for less than $70. :/
Not gonna say which company- I'd practically dox myself. Not many people in the West collect them yet.
As far as I can tell, a "neutral" means you're open to/don't mind recasts or you don't want anything to do with them (anti recast/pro recast). And unfortunately, no, it doesn't.
I mean, why does a hobby about dolls involve virtue signaling, elitism, and Patreon shilling? I got into it for the mods, not a circle jerk of white people asking me why, I a Samoan, don't have more POC dolls?
Lol they've done that to me, too- and then ridiculed me for not being able to afford the higher-costing tan dolls. It was WHITES doing it. Like seriously, toss me some of that trust fund daddy left you and I'll buy the coolest-looking brave imaginable lol. What's hilarious is that the rich whites are the ones who can actually afford the tan dolls... Ah well.
If you can't afford it then maybe the hobby isn't for you. There's nothing bad about it.
"If I were to go to say, Nordstrom, and saw a purse or a handbag I liked but it was $140, would I buy it? No. There are other places such as TJ Maxx or Marshall's that sell those same brands for much less.
I could go to TJ Maxx and buy a purse by the same designer in a similar style for a fraction of the price--let's say $30. That's a better deal. It's a matter of where you look--you don't have to rely on purchasing bootleg purses; just look in different stores and find something similar in a more suitable price range."
Like I said, there are few resin alternatives to the BJD hobby.
You can spend $15 on a purse, it may not be the purse you want, or the size you want, and it may even be for a child, but it's still a sack for your wallet.
I'd buy a $200, coach purse from the early 2000s because it would be real leather and handmade. A quality item that will last for years to come, retain it's value and has few market competitors.
Fast forward to 2017 where we're in a metaphorical recession and I would not buy a Coach bag since they are all made in China, cost the same, and are made of cheap material.I may like Coach and their products, but i'm not going to pay for a product just because it has a company name stamped on it.
You can't compare a purse, a colored sack, to a doll, because a purse is either leather, or it ain't, to put it bluntly. You'd be better off comparing an Amish made chair to another Amish made chair but with custom back support that fits to your body. (I say this as I sit in such a chair purchased pre recession)
Resin is still resin. A doll is a doll. People like what they like and money is tight. You have to compare and consider that fact, as i've said again and again. A $120 recast is more appealing than a $700 item. Just like that TjMaxx purse
Besides, you can always just buy a doll from the sculptor themselves and the cost is less as it lacks the company stamp.
Like I said, there are few resin alternatives to the BJD hobby.
You can spend $15 on a purse, it may not be the purse you want, or the size you want, and it may even be for a child, but it's still a sack for your wallet.
I'd buy a $200, coach purse from the early 2000s because it would be real leather and handmade. A quality item that will last for years to come, retain it's value and has few market competitors.
Fast forward to 2017 where we're in a metaphorical recession and I would not buy a Coach bag since they are all made in China, cost the same, and are made of cheap material.I may like Coach and their products, but i'm not going to pay for a product just because it has a company name stamped on it.
You can't compare a purse, a colored sack, to a doll, because a purse is either leather, or it ain't, to put it bluntly. You'd be better off comparing an Amish made chair to another Amish made chair but with custom back support that fits to your body. (I say this as I sit in such a chair purchased pre recession)
Resin is still resin. A doll is a doll. People like what they like and money is tight. You have to compare and consider that fact, as i've said again and again. A $120 recast is more appealing than a $700 item. Just like that TjMaxx purse
Besides, you can always just buy a doll from the sculptor themselves and the cost is less as it lacks the company stamp.
Lol they've done that to me, too- and then ridiculed me for not being able to afford the higher-costing tan dolls. It was WHITES doing it. Like seriously, toss me some of that trust fund daddy left you and I'll buy the coolest-looking brave imaginable lol. What's hilarious is that the rich whites are the ones who can actually afford the tan dolls... Ah well.
I'm not a fan of bringing up race as a trump card but-
hell to the yes, I am not paying extra for a dark shade because i don't...care? I was once asked why I don't have more "ethnic" dolls (because I'm supposed to run around in a hula girl skirt or something)
At least i'm not using my disability checks to buy dolls and actually save up....
That seems to be your only argument instead of attempting to suggest an alternative to resin bjds. Because there isn't one. You either have the money or you don't deserve to participate because you're too poor
