Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

[LemonMice]

Furscience? Research? Surely it will be completely unbiased.

Daily reminder that people of European descent invented furries.

 

[Law]

Daily reminder that people of European descent invented furries.

And for that we are truly, deeply sorry.

 

[LemonMice]

And for that we are truly, deeply sorry.

Our ancestors were proto-furries and loved their animal cults; no people are perfect.

At first glance, furries just appear to be cringe incarnate. But once you delve deeper you see things like zoosadism, dangerous fetishes, and bottomless degeneracy.

 

[The bird with tourettes]

the little research I have seen suggests otherwise [1]. Keep in mind this research is from 2013-14,

1. Look at your source. Your using a 10+year source from "furscience" which you can't tell me isn't a red flag and can't lead to a conclusion that it's a poor source. I agree with @Corn Flakes It is technically possible. But don't act like things haven't changed since then. Also If I got a source from "Support Israel fund" then said "OH YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT IS BIASED" or something similar. wouldn't you question it? Also @Ballsack Pussylips
Source says otherwise.

And? Do you have any evidence of them faking their surveys or studies? Just saying "They are biased" or guilt by association (the Canadian gov't funding) is a weak argument.

2. Also it's not guilt by association but by undue influences. Again look at your source. You're right we can't prove 100%. But to act like it's not right to question it is dumb.

Edit: fat fingered and posted to early

 

[Google.com]

furscience

They literally get money from the Canadian government to run around in fursuits and post such amazing things like this on their website.

The IARP’s years of research indicate that the furry fandom has literally prevented some youth from committing suicide, and yet furries, when known about, occupy a disproportionately but ironically, socially acceptable stigmatized position in mainstream culture. Furries experience stigma due in part to the visually unique nature of furries in conjunction with incendiary, sensationalist media portrayals (e.g., CSI: Fur and Loathing in Las Vegas; 1000 Ways to Die; Vanity Fair etc.) which cast furries and the fandom as a deviant sexual fetish; if the fandom is about anything, it’s about friendship and community, which makes the mainstream media’s reduction of the fandom to a fetish insulting and categorically and demonstrably inaccurate.

These inaccurate portrayals, combined with the public’s unfamiliarity with the fandom, make many furries (reasonably) fear discrimination and violence. Documented media and online incidents have stigmatized furries and made it difficult for them to “come out” or socialize for fear of negative repercussions, abuse, and ostracism. Many furries have faced emotional, physical, and bullying due to ignorance and intentional misrepresentations. Like other marginalized communities who have benefited from advocacy (e.g., LGBT), furries need evidence-based support to negate this pervasive stigma.

 

[OhShitWatNao]

You wake up as Joe Somebody, b. 1920 - d. June 19th, 1944, WWII casualty:

>ghost on the USS Hornet
>[time passes]
>wow look at that, the ol' carrier went on to retrieve astronauts from a space program?
>hot darn things are really looking up for the good old USA
>well I suppose it's quite old now, hope they don't break er do- ...hey a museum! that's just fine
>[time passes]
>man that sure was wild bleeding out right here at this spot during our campaign in the Philippine sea all those years ago
>looks like they're setting up for some kind of event
>must be memorial day
>yep look at that, I'm sure it'll be busy here!
>say, thats a strange cloth that man just put on the table
>strange looking crowd too
>these folks must be visiting from the asylum or something
>hey why's this man climbing on the table here, kind of disrespectful seeing as I died right next to that
>oh
>oh jesus
>why's he got his trousers down? is that man wearing a diaper??
>why isn't someone stopping this?
>oh thank the lord, some folks are coming to stop him
>wait a moment
>they're helping him out of his clothes!
>hells bells! that man went and shit himself on my fucking table!
>THAT ADULT MAN SHIT IN A DIAPER ON MY TABLE AND THESE PEOPLE ARE CLEANING IT UP!
>WHAT IN THE LORD'S GOOD EARTH IS HAPPENING!
>I MUST BE IN HELL!
>WHERE DID WE GO WRONG?!
>CHRIST WHAT DID WE DO!?

And that's how the ghost of Joe Somebody developed PTSD once again 80 years after the war ended.

 

[Barry Williams]

And? Do you have any evidence of them faking their surveys or studies? Just saying "They are biased" or guilt by association (the Canadian gov't funding) is a weak argument.

I'll bite.

No, I do not have proof that they are faking their studies in the way that faking data or cooking the books is conventionally defined, but as far as I know all of their surveys and "studies" are done in such a way where you have to volunteer the time (and information) yourself and they do not make any effort to collect data from as wide of a group as possible. People hear about it because someone tells them, and anyone can go to it. So if Tranny McFurfag posts about it in his Discord server that's also full of other Tranny McFurfags, suddenly there's going to be an abnormal spike in trans representation in their survey that wouldn't be there (or perhaps not to the same degree) if Furscience had volunteers soliciting random people at major conventions or something like that. (Admittedly, this would be hard to do a blind study with because so many people at furry cons wear badges and other stupid shit that out them as LGBT so a surveyor looking to validate their own feelings would, consciously or otherwise, be more inclined to approach people whom they believe will give them the data they want.)

Furscience's surveys also ask several questions about very taboo subjects such as bestiality, which is a known thing in the fandom, and does so knowing most people are going to mark "no" on this even if it means they really do engage or consume that kind of content but know deep down that admitting to that is wrong. Everybody "doing their part" to say they definitely don't fuck animals, because the opposite is very bad optics, starts to skew the results in an untrue manner. By asking taboo questions in this way Furscience can use their assumed air of authority (by being funded by the government) to say "look, only 6% of furries are interested in zoophilia" and the unsuspecting public will consume that tidbit without looking into it further because they simply trust the source and aren't willing to ask questions. Now there's a "legitimate study" on the books that says "furries != bestiality". This is exactly the same way political shysters try to work crowds to get results that they want so they can show their pseudo-falsified numbers to someone else to get whatever it is they're after.

Also, "guilt by association" is sometimes a passe thing to throw at someone, but this is the Canadian government we're talking about. This is a government that openly and actively hates the people it oversees and for the past several years has been working to completely destroy and undermine their native population (both the white/French/etc ones and the "First Nations" people who were there before that). Furscience gets grant money from the government in order to produce data that benefits the detrimental vices they are trying to force onto society. As such, I inherently (and vehemently) do not trust them.

I'll take my tinfoil hat off now.

 

[The Atlantic Ocean]

hoping I don't know the answer to this but when they say get their diapers changed it's a performative thing right? They take off a clean diaper to replace with a clean diaper?

Bless you, no. The judicious furry convention will advertise its used-diaper disposal procedure and appeal to its attendees not to deliberately shit themselves in public.


[https://archive.ph/Vodx7]

 

[The bird with tourettes]

My god I knew the whole "No they really do shit in the diapers they wear". But seeing them having this check list and procedures is insane. Also it's a fucking official announcement. It's also hilariously amazing how these people will organize a place to dump your fucking shitty diaper. Yet getting rid of freaks who are open about being into fucking dogs from staff and banning them? Nah can't figure a way to do that. Guess they will stay.

 

[Law]

But seeing them having this check list and procedures is insane.

It's all just more fetish fuel.

 

[ZapThePickle]

I hate to say it, furries are no more degenerate then any other fandom, they are just the loudest, brightest, and most talked about group. Hell Pittsburgh is already talking about the furries coming to town in july. It's a big production for them, shit they know they are degens but that sweet sweet dinero makes it a easier pill to swallow



Side note most furries hate baby furs, like they actively find them disgusting, and want diapers banned from convention space but they can't because "Its furrrr muhhh medic needs"

Spoiler: Photo of anti baby fur furry shit sfw

And a lot of the comments are in agreement fuck baby furs they are gross

 

[Esat Okchud]

kiddos

Anyone who uses this word to address age regressing furfags in diapers needs to kill themselves die a painful death.

How the hell did they convince the people running this aircraft carrier to allow an adult baby diaper changing station to be situated in one of their most important exhibits.

Because money, and also there's a chance the people running this exhibit being furniggers themselves

ABDLs

Segregate all diaperniggers, no human rights for diaperfags

 

[Realhat]

And? Do you have any evidence of them faking their surveys or studies? Just saying "They are biased" or guilt by association (the Canadian gov't funding) is a weak argument.

I was part of a group dinner with one of the main people behind FurScience one time, and was able to chat with him a little. Between that and seeing one of his panels, and reading some of the content of the site, I can offer my personal judgment, for whatever it's worth.

I don't think he's intentionally faking anything, but the validity of the data is questionable, and he does not deny this. He said himself that "we use science-like methods but I wouldn't claim our results are scientific." Volunteer bias is the most obvious of several issues, as another posted has already pointed out. I also would definitely question his interpretation of the data at times.

TL;DR it's an honest attempt at gathering data but I wouldn't take the results as gospel.

Furscience's surveys also ask several questions about very taboo subjects such as bestiality, which is a known thing in the fandom, and does so knowing most people are going to mark "no" on this even if it means they really do engage or consume that kind of content but know deep down that admitting to that is wrong.

Some different research from several decades ago found that it was about 1 in 7 furries who are zoophiles. This was also just polling from within the community, so subject to the same issues you raise. Furry demographics have certainly changed over the years, so maybe zoophilia is less common now than it was back then, but it's also the case that the stigma against it within the community wasn't nearly as strong back then, nor was the enthusiasm of the cancel mob, so people may have been more honest in the old research.

In any case, the answer to "how many furries are zoophiles" is and probably always will be "enough."

 

[ZachZeeb]

I hate to say it, furries are no more degenerate then any other fandom, they are just the loudest, brightest, and most talked about group. Hell Pittsburgh is already talking about the furries coming to town in july. It's a big production for them, shit they know they are degens but that sweet sweet dinero makes it a easier pill to swallow



Side note most furries hate baby furs, like they actively find them disgusting, and want diapers banned from convention space but they can't because "Its furrrr muhhh medic needs"

Spoiler: Photo of anti baby fur furry shit sfw

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And a lot of the comments are in agreement fuck baby furs they are gross

>"most furries hate babyfurs"
>posts catamarasnep

That person was kicked from events in SoCal for being against babyfurs. Doesn't sound like "most furries hate ABDLs"; rather furries are highly degenerate and most of them actually support and defend babyfurries.

This individual is a vocal minority who got laughed out of furry spaces for being against the diaper degenerates and ridiculed for comparing them to pedophiles. Furries trying to shit on other furries for fetishes while having their own sexual deviancies will always be hilarious. After all, your girl catamarasnep is sexually attracted to children's pool toys which is also some freak shit. Glass houses.

Anyone trying to say furries aren't degenerate is suspicious and running cover for the freaks. Likely trying to make their own furry fetish seem innocent while hiding their own insidious shit.

Furries aren't normal fandom enjoyers being singled out for no good reason- they're sexual deviants in a paraphilic crab bucket trying to drag each other down so they don't seem like the "bad guys". They're all irredeemable pieces of shit.

 

[Law]

I hate to say it, furries are no more degenerate then any other fandom,

Show me where the dog-fucking hotel rooms were at PAX East.
Furries are uniquely awful cause they had the weird sex shit baked into the community since day one.

 

[Cyberfunk]

I hate to say it, furries are no more degenerate then any other fandom, they are just the loudest, brightest, and most talked about group. Hell Pittsburgh is already talking about the furries coming to town in july. It's a big production for them, shit they know they are degens but that sweet sweet dinero makes it a easier pill to swallow



Side note most furries hate baby furs, like they actively find them disgusting, and want diapers banned from convention space but they can't because "Its furrrr muhhh medic needs"

Spoiler: Photo of anti baby fur furry shit sfw

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And a lot of the comments are in agreement fuck baby furs they are gross

This is not the case at all, sure, some furries find babyfurs disgusting but if they speak against them like in your example they'll get banned from cons and meetups for "kinkshaming". Supposedly if there is no proof of pedophilia or zoophilia happening the babyfurs can stay in the fandom as long as they keep their stuff in the 18+ timezone and specific parties which happen at every furcon. This is what you get when you have an alt culture that mixes their hobbies with BDSM, everything has to be accepted! What makes this worse is that certain fursonas look like they could be from disneyworld so you got furries saying that cons can still be for the whole family because "this is not allowed during daytime" or that they are just exploring their lost childhood and are adults so they'll wear diapers and pacifiers while there is an orgy happening next to them.

 

[Law]

This is what you get when you have an alt culture that mixes their hobbies with BDSM, everything has to be accepted!

BDSM is a plague

Furries aren't normal fandom enjoyers being singled out for no good reason- they're sexual deviants in a paraphilic crab bucket trying to drag each other down so they don't seem like the "bad guys". They're all irredeemable pieces of shit.

It's insane that they never go to "OK, we fucked up, let's make ourselves look better by being better" it's always "Well, at least I'm not THAT GUY!"
This mentality will make it so every room is a room full of that guy and only that guy.

 

[Crispy Pancake]

Furfag degens who defend other furfag degens and chase out furries against paras are doing that to be in control and only allow propara degens. Propara furries huddle around controversial victimized degens like Puppychan, Hearthfox or any Floraverse wanker on purpose.

 

[ZachZeeb]

Furfag degens who defend other furfag degens and chase out furries against paras are doing that to be in control and only allow propara degens. Propara furries huddle around controversial victimized degens like Puppychan, Hearthfox or any Floraverse wanker on purpose.

Furry fetish at its core is a zoophilic paraphilia, a form of escapism, and a sexual roleplay; ergo "furries against paraphiles" is an impossible battle and the "anti-paraphile" crowd trying to sanitize furry fetish will always lose. It's Burned Furs drama over and over again forever. A small minority of people who attempt to join because they think it's "cool" get lambasted by truefreaks, spazz out, get angry and then eventually realize no one wants them there so they leave. They've been losing since the beginning of the fandom because furries prove time and time again it IS a paraphilic sex thing.

The only winning move is not to play. If the anti-paraphile crowd wants to be free from the degenerates, they should stop identifying as furries and stop participating in furry fetish. They'll only end up being dragged down to everyone else's level eventually if they stay.

You can't surround yourself with wannabe dogfuckers and end up "the normal ones". "It's not all about sex", until it is.

 

[Law]

Bless you, no. The judicious furry convention will advertise its used-diaper disposal procedure and appeal to its attendees not to deliberately shit themselves in public.

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I've been to a bunch of gaming and anime conventions. I've also been to plenty of events where a large chunk of the audience was families with babies and very young children, diaper bags in tow. I have never seen a diaper disposal code of conduct that included medical waste bags and a special note to not shit yourself in the hallways.
These people are insane.