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The pros say that writing a script to a movie is all about cutting scenes until you are left with the absolute minimum content that you need to tell your story as efficiently as possible, so many scenes end up cut from the film. Writing a novel is the exact opposite, it's all about filling up as many pages with words as possible and adding as many details as you can for the reader to get a full sense of the story, Which is why books based on films try to add in as much cut content as possible as well as adding their own scenes to the story.
That reminds me of how The Funhouse novelization is completely different from the movie, which took longer to finish. The book has all this backstory and the remaining third is the part that is similar to the film albeit with changes to character deaths.
 
Just found out that the creator and director of Jeepers Creepers is a pedo. Explains a lot.
What people concluded is that the monster is supposed to be the director's self insert.
Also, if you want to watch the sequels, just watch 2, it's solid and it ends in a satisfactory way.
The other sequels are complete garbage.
The pedo director was a way better filmmaker than who ever made those.
Maybe it has been said before but idk what is the fuzz about Final Destination Bloodlines because ultimately...

Its literally another F.D movie, for better and worst (except for Tony Todd's final appearance, which is indeed pretty sad to see him in that state)
That's what people like about it.
It's a slasher movie where the villain is non-corporeal, it's not supposed to reinvent the wheel, just deliver the set pieces.
 
What people concluded is that the monster is supposed to be the director's self insert.
Also, if you want to watch the sequels, just watch 2, it's solid and it ends in a satisfactory way.
The other sequels are complete garbage.
The pedo director was a way better filmmaker than who ever made those.
I mean it definitely doesn't help that the Creeper is chasing young boys and smelling their underwear. But yeah, 2 is really good. I love that they show the creeper for a long time and that you can really analyze him as a viewer (it's the scene where the students are all on the bus and he smells out his victims). Far too few modern (monster) horror films let you actually have a good look at the monster.
 
I mean it definitely doesn't help that the Creeper is chasing young boys and smelling their underwear. But yeah, 2 is really good. I love that they show the creeper for a long time and that you can really analyze him as a viewer (it's the scene where the students are all on the bus and he smells out his victims). Far too few modern (monster) horror films let you actually have a good look at the monster.
Until the centipede has several scenes of teenage boys pissing.
 
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David Bischoff: "So, Joe, do you have any requests for the novel before I get started on it? Like, how creative can I get?"

Joe Dante: "Who gives a fuck?"

Given how meta and self aware Gremlins 2 was, it wouldnt surprise me that this was Dante's actual answer.

Gremlins 2 knows its a cash in sequel so it will have fun with itself and I really respect it for that.
It's made way more overt in part 2.


You know what they say

"Write what you know"

urgh....
 
So let me ask - did you pirate the movie? I know what scene you're talking about and on a big screen it looks fine and is a lot of fun. However, I knew the moment I saw the movie that once this bit moves to a small screen, it wouldn't look nearly as good and would probably come off as rather goofy.

This also applies to most of Sinners. Once this gets off the big screen into home streaming and services, everyone will go "What was the big deal?". If there was ever justification for big screens actually making a difference in a movie, it's Sinners.
I saw it in a cinema and it didn't help. But got to disagree that it's better at the cinema, with a big oled tv it would look far better then the cinema screen, as long as you get a 4K Blu ray or a rip of a 4k Blu ray.

Cinema projection is really behind upper range TV's when it comes to HDR and contrast, look so washed out compared to them. All it has going against it is size, but with how big new TV's are and how close you sit to them, isn't as big of a difference as it once was.
 
I mean it definitely doesn't help that the Creeper is chasing young boys and smelling their underwear. But yeah, 2 is really good. I love that they show the creeper for a long time and that you can really analyze him as a viewer (it's the scene where the students are all on the bus and he smells out his victims). Far too few modern (monster) horror films let you actually have a good look at the monster.
I caught some of the first and most of the second on cable back in the day. I didn't love the pronounced homo vibe. But Ray Wise was really my favorite part of it all.
 
The pros say that writing a script to a movie is all about cutting scenes until you are left with the absolute minimum content that you need to tell your story as efficiently as possible, so many scenes end up cut from the film. Writing a novel is the exact opposite, it's all about filling up as many pages with words as possible and adding as many details as you can for the reader to get a full sense of the story, Which is why books based on films try to add in as much cut content as possible as well as adding their own scenes to the story.
Cutting content/editing down is a huge part of writing any story, be that a script or a novel or a short story. It takes longer to convey something through written word rather than visuals of course, but that doesn't mean writing is about vomiting out as much content as possible; quite the opposite. Film novelizations probably try to add in additional content to justify their existence, although I haven't read enough to judge.

Hereditary felt to me like they were trying way too hard, but I got a massive laugh out of the telephone pole scene, and an even bigger one out of the diarama recreating it.
Hereditary is such a weird film. The acting is very good and the cinematography is good too. In theory, I like its themes/parallels about familial trauma and cycles of abuse and relating that to demonic possession. In theory, I like the idea of a story about a grieving mother losing her marbles only to learn that she actually wasn't losing her marbles but that there genuinely is a conspiracy to do harm to her and her family and invoke a demon, if only because the inverse (there's actually no demon/ghost and the main character is just crazy) is so overdone. However in execution I found Hereditary to be so fucking boring. I didn't care that the daughter died because she was repulsive and gross and I didn't want to see her anymore. I don't want to see an hour and a half of a family falling apart in their grief because that's just sad. I found the finale entertaining once things actually start happening, but that's not enough to justify the film's existence.

I thought Hereditary was as boring as every other ghost movie
It's not a ghost movie but I do agree it's dull

Just got back from watching Bring Her Back. It's not a very scary movie, but it's not a bad movie. Like Hereditary, it's more sad than frightening, but it's not nearly as boring. Apparently the movie was intended to have a more "horror" ending and when a friend of the filmmakers died they adjusted it to be a more emotional ending. I don't think this was the right move. If you go into it with more of an expectation for a drama with some frightening/intense moments I think that's the better approach.
 
I liked Hereditary and there are some spooky moments in it but I made the mistake of seeing it in a crowded theatre full of high school kids who were laughing their asses off for most of it. Kinda killed the general ambience. I do think Aster is overrated though and a lot of the modern horror stuff surrounding him and Eggers overblown because similar to video games there are a bunch of hipsters/nerds desperate to make something schlocky in nature somehow higher art than it actually is.

Not saying these don't exist but not everything has to be some elevated 2deep4u cinematic statement.
 
It's like he's so far up his own ass that he's not even huffing farts. He's just up there for no reason
Love that. Stealing it.

His movies are visually striking and well-crafted and all the rest, but you just feel like there's nothing to it. Just a technical exercise.
I agree with this regarding Eggers, he's obviously a skilled filmmaker but it's always seemed to me that there's something fundamental missing in his films that I can't exactly pinpoint, but "bloodless" is a good way to put it.

Now for some heresy, I feel much the same way about Kubrick. Not that I'm equating the two of them. But Kubrick's work similarly just feels hollow and.. autistic. Regardless of his technical skills as a director. Which are/were impressive.
 
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I liked Hereditary and there are some spooky moments in it but I made the mistake of seeing it in a crowded theatre full of high school kids who were laughing their asses off for most of it. Kinda killed the general ambience.
I experienced that when I saw Cronenberg's A History of Violence in the theater and the crowd treated it like a comedy.
I do think Aster is overrated though
Die.

No, but seriously. You should check out Beau Is Afraid if you've already watched Hereditary and Midsommer. His next film is going to be a western.
 
Yeah, Jeepers Creeps is a pedo power fantasy, it's going after a very youth-coded Justin Long and smelling his undies. The whole thing is just Victor Salva wanking off.
 
Anyone follow Universal Halloween Horror Nights? FNAF and Fallout have been confirmed, and I'm really really hoping the campfire on the speculation map is Friday the 13th. Also hoping the trash bags are Terrifier.
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Anyone follow Universal Halloween Horror Nights? FNAF and Fallout have been confirmed, and I'm really really hoping the campfire on the speculation map is Friday the 13th. Also hoping the trash bags are Terrifier.

I'm waiting for next year. They should have the roaming dance troupes of M3gans out again for the sequel. It's not even sexy or erotic, and I'm certainly not a fan of the movie, I just like them.
 
Anyone follow Universal Halloween Horror Nights? FNAF and Fallout have been confirmed, and I'm really really hoping the campfire on the speculation map is Friday the 13th. Also hoping the trash bags are Terrifier.
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It will be so fucking funny when it's still a bunch of screens even this one time the jank Universal robots wouldn't look like shit
 
I'm waiting for next year. They should have the roaming dance troupes of M3gans out again for the sequel. It's not even sexy or erotic, and I'm certainly not a fan of the movie, I just like them.
The speculation map has one of the scare zones marked with the M3gan "E", so you might get your wish earlier than expected
 
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