Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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Let's not forget that Greer's LLC paperwork may be fraudulent. For example, who are W.H. and Chris Whomstever?

And more importantly, do they even know they were part of an LLC?

 

[Bogliacci]

And more importantly, do they even know they were part of an LLC?

According to Huber's responses, he did not.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Anyone needing to pay personal expenses with money from a business entity should consult a trusted/reputable tax professional who can explain how to do it in a way that won't make the government suspect financial fuckery.

It's not terribly hard to do, you just have to disburse to yourself (assuming it's a single-player LLC and not something more complicated), keep records, and not count them as business expenses, and pay appropriate tax.

The last two is where most people (intenionaccidentally) fuck it up.

 

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According to Huber's responses, he did not.

Isn't that illegal as fuck for King Coomer to have done?

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

These tricks are too fucking complicated for Greer, he only creates LLCs because they're cheap and he thinks real businesses have them (he would be ass-blasted to know how many "real businesses" don't even bother with an LLC)

That would make a significant amount of sense given his general "cargo cult" mentality to most things in life.

 

[HackerX]

It's not terribly hard to do, you just have to disburse to yourself (assuming it's a single-player LLC and not something more complicated), keep records, and not count them as business expenses, and pay appropriate tax.

The last two is where most people (intenionaccidentally) fuck it up.

That's the hilarious part. I don't believe he's got any money "reserved for business" nor has any segregation between him and the business whatsoever. Not necessarily on purpose either, since I doubt he's set ever set aside money for the business. Though that begs the question how he managed to save so much money for the hooker fund, but I digress.

I assume he throwing out "reserved for business" to further justify his plightsperging, but the judge could easily interpret it as "he has the money, he just doesn't want to spend it". That could potentially lead to the judge saying "prove it", and then Russ has wrapped himself in a whole new mess brought on by his own volition. I've got no idea how possible that is because I'm a retard, but the logical path is right there.

 

[Bogliacci]

Isn't that illegal as fuck for King Coomer to have done?

Probably! It's for sure illegal as fuck to only provide the initials of one of the LLC officers.

 

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So what is Mr. Greer's plan with this? I mean, I'm the first one to say he's just a retard reacting impulsively with no larger plan, but why pay the $400 filing fee and then grouse about $67?

Dismissal while keeping his $400 makes some sense because he keeps his $400 and might be mush-brained enough to think that gets him out of all the pending sanctions. If you pay to avoid the dismissal then presumably you're still trying to win the case so why do this when it looks so bad? Even for rusty "Pay money in order to accrue more sanctions" is retarded. What gives?

Sidenote: I like how he just acts as if him being reimbursed is a given and the only question is before or after he produces the documents then at the end of the filing cites a case from a different circuit.

 

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Greer is the gift that keeps on giving, but I'm getting increasingly agitated at how many times he's bringing up the "irrelevancy" of this information when the beginning of this entire saga was him bringing it up and saying it's relevant.

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Bennett even mentioned it in the original order all the way back in fucking February too.
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The sanctions for this should be huge, let alone the Steve Taylor bullshit that also needs to be ruled on. It already doesn't make sense to me that he got ordered to produce it by 24th February, didn't do it, then got ordered to produce it a second time without any penalty for the first non-compliance.

i wholeheartedly agree. mr. hardin's response to that little tirade from greer was lovely ... "gee, two more indications of your vexatious nature? yes, please!":


even if greer had kept his mouth shut not specifically mentioned these documents, they're still precisely the types of documents that mr. hardin sought with his first request for production back in december, which means that had greer kept his mouth shut not mentioned them, their production would be stayed indefinitely until the two new defendants that were added in the amended complaint have been served.


also, try as i might, i cannot find this comment from the court (that greer conveniently failed to site as a docket entry):

on july 15th, 2024, there are three orders on the most recent utah docket:
ecf 133: granting greer's motion to reconsider and to vacate the transfer to florida
ecf 134: the district judge referring all of the pending motions to the magistrate judge (see below, ecf 136)
ecf 135: mooting greer's motion requesting ecf access due to a prior arrangement with the court

then on july 16th, 2024, there's another order (ecf 136) granting greer's various motions for an extension of time to respond. nowhere, in any of those documents, does the court write "that the plaintiff's response was not required when it makes decisions". there's nothing of the sort; not here and not on any of the other dockets. regardless, the court did have this to say during the scheduling conference last year:

edited for clarity and spelling

 

[somevan712]

So what is Mr. Greer's plan with this? I mean, I'm the first one to say he's just a retard reacting impulsively with no larger plan, but why pay the $400 filing fee and then grouse about $67?

It's not about the $67, as much as it is about screwing over Null as much as possible, including being a petty, vindictive, and spiteful retard. I believe Greer already owes money in sanctions, so he probably shouldn't be discussing anyone owing money at the moment. Thinking more than the next foot ahead is too advanced for Greer, as it's just about the next immediate step, which is why he has to try to backtrack so frequently.

He just doesn't know where he's going or how he's getting there, but damn will he get those prostitutes and destroy Null, the Kiwi Farms, and Mr. Hardin.

 

[DiabeticSydePhil]

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He's STILL fighting the Judge's order to produce documents?!

 

[obsdj]

He's STILL fighting the Judge's order to produce documents?!

Greer has been fighting the original request for production since November. The entire time he has insisted that the docs are irrelevant and a burden for him to produce. Court orders don’t matter, nor does the fact that he is the one who initiated the case, nor the fact that the defendants have the right to an aggressive defense.

 

[a hapless toad]

There's something seriously fishy in that application. I know we all know it's going to be full of lies but there's got to be something else in there so egregious that he can't even try to explain it away.

 

[Gorton Colu]

that particular client thought it was also smart to haphazardly transfer funds back and forth between two different corporate entities.

This nonsense boggles the mind. Get a corporate line of credit if you are having cash flow issues, retard.

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Yes, I know that Rusty is not smart, but it is still insane that he is trying to attract "angel investor" money when he has no demonstrated business experience. Hey Russ, how about you open a small non-brothel business.

After you have some experience and success, then go with a business plan to your mysterious backers that desire a brothel resort. Stupid dummy.

His only experience to show for all these years is as an unhinged litigant. if it wasn't his lolsuits it'd be his retarded suit interventions that crater his future.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Greer has been fighting the original request for production since November. The entire time he has insisted that the docs are irrelevant and a burden for him to produce. Court orders don’t matter, nor does the fact that he is the one who initiated the case, nor the fact that the defendants have the right to an aggressive defense.

All of that would have been swept aside by the TardGard™ except the fucking retard mentioned this 2018 one and insisted it was pertinent!

His motion is so obviously a petulant "oh you want to tell the principal how I shat on the carpet? Then I'm going to tell him how you pissed on the wall, what now, buddy boy!" - but the court (I suspect for good reason) cannot officially NOTICE that it's petulant bullshit, it has to pretend that it's all real and important, and so Greer is literally being hoisted on his own petard. The PetardGard™ if you will.

It's fucking not quite poetry, but it is prose.

I think he paid the $400 to continue the game because in his mind, he's still winning this case, because the 10th said he was a winner and had a winning case and would win. So all the costs and sanctions will come out in the wash when he is awarded $300k per post in his thread.

(Another example of his retard mormon upbringing - not that the mormons are retarded, but how he applies it is - he could easily have taken cash out of the bank months and months ago (especially when going homeless) and shoved it under a rock at the Hof memorial ruins or something, and never been found out, even by the kiwidrones™. But that would be technically illegal - which he doesn't like to do. He prefers stupidly illegal, accidentally illegal, or blatantly fucking retardedly illegal.)

 

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The entire time he has insisted that the docs are irrelevant and a burden for him to produce.

Ashckually, he said specifically that the restraining order (application) is relevant.

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There's something seriously fishy in that application. I know we all know it's going to be full of lies but there's got to be something else in there so egregious that he can't even try to explain it away.

It's just going to be more plights. I doubt he even remembers the exact contents.

 

[DiabeticSydePhil]

What mechanicism does the Court even have to compell Greer to produce a document he claims he can't (wont) pay for?

Monetary sanctions dont seem like they're a response to 'isn't paying for other things already'.

Another stern wag of the finger and further orders to comply?

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

What mechanicism does the Court even have to compell Greer to produce a document he claims he can't (wont) pay for?

It's very unlikely the court unholsters the Big Gun (contempt) because it's a civil case, but they in theory could. A night in the hoosgow wouldn't change Russ, tho.

Most likely they just keep piling sanctions until the Ultimate Sanction - dismissal of the case as "too fucking retarded."

But don't fret! That will just be the beginning of the PayNull saga, which can range for years and cross more state boundaries than you can shake a stick at!

 

[Bogliacci]

What mechanicism does the Court even have to compell Greer to produce a document he claims he can't (wont) pay for?

Monetary sanctions dont seem like they're a response to 'isn't paying for other things already'.

Another stern wag of the finger and further orders to comply?

Sanctioning the retard into oblivion would be a good start

 

[Gorton Colu]

What mechanicism does the Court even have to compell Greer to produce a document he claims he can't (wont) pay for?

Monetary sanctions dont seem like they're a response to 'isn't paying for other things already'.

Another stern wag of the finger and further orders to comply?

Greer making the argument for debtor's prison. You know? Now that I think about it, maybe Greer should become Joah's court ordered gimp like that retard with Acerthorn.

A good defense is a better offense. Greer can pro se IFP sue Liz Dong Gone and all of Kiwi Farms', a website, enemies.