Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.4%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 12.0%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.7%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 156 33.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 113 24.3%

  • Total voters
    465
I would've preferred a simple status report and immediate, explicit motion for dismissal.

The status report isn't due until the 10th, this was just a (necessary) reply to Greer's idiot motion to reconsider.

And remember, there is already an open motion to dismiss before the court. Hardin requested extra time to reply to Greer's objection to said motion to dismiss, largely because there are all the other open matters that need resolving before Hardin makes any further arguments in support of that motion. For example, Greer still needs to pay the one sanction, there's the other motion for sanctions that remains open (ECF 234), this whole matter of the Utah documents is coming due, Hardin's next motion for sanctions will be filed soon, and so on.

Also, Hardin is hanging a lot on that first email and the word "happy".
I do like Hardin hammering home "happy to provide them". Looks like thats repeated 6 times. Its one of Greer's most egregious lies in the case.

The "happy" thing has been brought up more than enough times and Greer has already been ordered to produce the fucking material twice by the judge, I don't think it's helpful to keep harping on "happy" at this point.

While it's true that he doesn't need certified copies or certified mail, that isn't what I was talking about. I don't want to mention anything that might help the retard so I'll just leave it at that.

I know what you're referring to, but it's too late to help him. The deadline was yesterday.
 
Hardin should be teaching ethics and civility hours for legal continuing education credits at this point. I have no idea how he can confine it to these coolly composed footnotes and not just slather it on thick in the text of the opposition, or even in an email that Russ would file to show that he really is a meanie poopoo head and he needs a restraining order NOW NOW NOW.

I do like how the exhibit also lists the eviction proceeding and the payday loan collection proceeding. Very clever way to show that to the Court.

e. @DavidS877 failure to rule means status quo was not changed, documents were still due yesterday. Of course, the Court can always come back and retroactively give Russ another 7 months, but I shouldn’t speak that into existence.
 
but also and more importantly called for the court to stand up and keep it's word, to 're convene' and decide if rule 37 case ending or other sanctions should be imposed for failing for the third time to comply with Discovery and produce a document he claimed he was 'happy' to do. 5 goddamn months ago.
Thank god Hardin reiterated what the court ordered because the court has been retarded this entire trial. It needs to be reminded of what it said before as attempts to tard-guard Greer have resulted in undermining its authority and has played a part in this case going on for so long from not enforcing rules.
 
As was pointed out to me the judge hasn't ruled on his extension, there may yet be more TardGuard(tm) in play.

Greer asked for the order to be rescinded OR for defendants to be forced to pay for the copies, not for an extension of time. He's in violation. Of course TardGuard is like slime on a Nickelodeon show, you have to assume it's always hanging over your head no matter what, but in spite of the judge's obvious desire not to punish Greer for anything ever, he was quite explicit in the hearing on this matter. We shall no doubt see.
 
for defendants to be forced to pay for the copies,
Seems like that would be an implicit extension. But true, I didn't read Greer's rantings nearly as closely as I read Mr. Hardin's or the Court's.
 
I think if nothing else the judge is genuinely irked by Russ's refusal to just do the thing he was told to do, vs all the fuck ups he makes just because he felt like it.

But the judges seem perfectly content to make shit up as they go, so who can say.

At a certain point if the Judge says he'll do something on the record and then doesnt, surely Hardin can file some form of protest?
 
The "happy" thing has been brought up more than enough times and Greer has already been ordered to produce the fucking material twice by the judge, I don't think it's helpful to keep harping on "happy" at this point.
I don't know. I feel its worse than his eager (deceased) witness.
 
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ISP fighting at the Supreme Court level to prevent Sony from stealing your internet has once again cited Greer v. Moon as the case that works against Sony, thought this time they designated it to a mere footnote
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Supposing that in their decision the Supreme Court indicates that the 10th circuit were the biggest batch of mongs ever seen to have come up with such a retarded ruling and you'd have to be the kind of person that likes using their own shit as a crayon to consider it as good law, what effect does that have on this case? Would it provide a good enough reason for the judge(s) to dismiss without having to rule on any merits of the case or deal with issues of sanctions or other things that they may prefer to avoid?

Greer's refusal to have them mailed to Greer is the strangest thing about the whole scenario. He never explains why he thinks they should be certified and sent directly (like a school transcript?) - does he think Hardin would contest them as inauthentic?

I'd accept that he's incredibly lazy and cheap and doesn't want to pay for postage a second time, but I don't know if he has an address to send them to that wouldn't require him to make a long trip to pick up the documents. I think that when he was trying to get Null to pay some ~$200 fee amount that he (technically the attorneys that handled his appeal) was owed, he wanted it sent to his father's address. The other possibility is that he'd have to use the actual correct address that he was giving Hardin a runaround over which would reveal to the court that he was lying about that and give even more cause for sanctions.

I do like Hardin hammering home "happy to provide them". Looks like thats repeated 6 times. Its one of Greer's most egregious lies in the case.

In a world where Greer keeps calling this a copyright case and "eager" witness Steve is fucking dead, I don't even know if "happy to provide them" cracks the top five.
 
Is there a reason Russell's exhibits are always in the same PDF as his filings and Hardin's never are?

Which is the correct way to do it?
Mr. Hardin uploads them himself to CM/ECF so each attachment/exhibit is a distinct file, as it should be.
When the clerk gets Greer's drool covered email they just upload it, and it's likely being sent as a single file.
Mr. Hardin is correct.
 
Can't wait until the plightsperging where Hardin noooooticing that Greer frivolously uses stalking and harassment claims against supposed aggressors is actually, in itself, stalking and harassment.

Enjoy disbarment, Virginia qualified child.
Late; he already believes, and has plead, that by merely obtaining public information that is, by law, available to the public about public matters involving a [limited purpose] public figure as part of the litigation/Discovery process Mr. Hardin is, in fact, "stalking" and "harassing" him.
 
I think if nothing else the judge is genuinely irked by Russ's refusal to just do the thing he was told to do, vs all the fuck ups he makes just because he felt like it.

But the judges seem perfectly content to make shit up as they go, so who can say.

At a certain point if the Judge says he'll do something on the record and then doesnt, surely Hardin can file some form of protest?
I remember Judge Bennett being fairly annoyed that Russ hadn't provided the documents. I honestly don't think he is going to tardguard over this.
 
I don't know. I feel its worse than his eager (deceased) witness.
That one was actually excusable nigglet in a way, just stupidity. This is worse, because he's got a $87 solution and refuses to use it.
He still has never provided the court or defendant with a valid address for service. At any point throughout this case. He deliberately kept lying about it. While using his actual address in other (hooker related) cases.
He obstinately refuses to admit he got the PMB wrong, even though it would have been a simple fix, and a PMB is valid for most kinds of service.
 
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