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[WelperHelper99]

Shreddednerd made an interesting video about this, saw nobody here posted it yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSHKy2hphJk

Saw this video. Nice exposure for the normies to the crazy that is fuckcars

 

[Lovely Kin]

Life is what you make of it - but these faggots are scared to walk on the grass near the road, so ...

It's hilarious, they cry about "no communities" but they would never engage in a community. They talk about no third place (which is an issue in some parts), but they would never go to one. Never mistake how redditors turn everything obnoxious, even the few good points, they manage to destroy and make an entire idea so unlikable.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Gym of life is such bullshit. I actually gained weight being an urban bug man who walks everywhere than being a suburbanite. Everything is right out my door I don't really need to travel far, add on Uber eats and other continent delivery services there isn't really much reason to leave my apartment day to day. I was actually more active with my car because it was so much easier to grab a friend and go explore somewhere. Meanwhile I look out the window of my high-rise and just stay home because it is hot or rainy and traveling is a hassle.

Of course it is. If they actually lived the big city life (as in, not a larp) they're not getting any exercise walking downstairs to get a sandwich or waddling down to the bar/train station to the bar.

The "suburbanites are fat" line is probably projection.

Shreddednerd made an interesting video about this, saw nobody here posted it yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSHKy2hphJk

There's not much there that isn't obvious or been stated by non-retards (Breezewood is literally just a truck stop and taken from the worst angle, Europe is often filled with ugly commieblocks), although pointing out that in more rural areas of Britain (probably others) there is literally no right of way beyond the road, wherein America there's about at least a meter or two for drainage ditches and utility lines.

But that's also a known problem--they'll complain how wide suburban streets are "unwalkable" yet in places they idolize like alleys in Tokyo or the canals of Amsterdam if a vehicle takes up the single lane available you don't have much space to work with.

I think funds a day camp for the children during the summer so their parents can go to work.

Childcare (or lack thereof) is one thing you never hear urbanists talk about other than the basic liberal line of how daycares should be government-supported (if not government-run), they never talk about their children.

Life is what you make of it - but these faggots are scared to walk on the grass near the road, so ...

I'm not even sure what they know they want. I've expressed in this thread a general idea of what I've wanted from the places I've lived over the years...but if you look at what they talk about, it's usually some variety of "adult" locations (not "adult entertainment", that has a different meaning) but they don't really elaborate that on other than barcades; yet they don't hold up any examples of "I want something like THIS in my neighborhood" even without qualifiers. Surely, there's been some sort of bar they can name that satisfies that ideal, that they've been to or gushed over in pictures.

Even with pure fantasy, can they name anything that they'd place? "McDonald's, but they remodeled it with an Undertale theme and it's the only location that still sells Mighty Wings" or "I liked [this specific bodega in New York] but I wish it was cleaner" or "A store similar to The UPS Store and FedEx Office, but accepts both and is open 24/7" or "A good barbershop", with ranking things to be more important to less important (you can't EVERYTHING within a block or two).

 

[Yamamura]

They talk about no third place (which is an issue in some parts), but they would never go to one.

I hear there's a building that has all sorts of activities and social events that people meet up at every Sunday. They probably wouldn't be into it though.

 

[BulkForceFive]

Shreddednerd made an interesting video about this, saw nobody here posted it yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSHKy2hphJk

too many redditors in the comments going 'It's not about hating cars, it's about wanting to have options' as though the subreddit isn't straight-up named 'fuck cars'.

the sharty comments are funny tho, I like them.

 

[FPTMIU]

too many redditors in the comments going 'It's not about hating cars, it's about wanting to have options' as though the subreddit isn't straight-up named 'fuck cars'.

Funnily enough, none of the comments saying this are actually made by Europeans. And all the comments made by Europeans are just saying "I fucking hate my country" and shitting on their public transport systems.

In my eyes, public transport can only ever work in either a homogenous (white) society or a police state where violating the etiquette will get your balls cut off and bottles shoved up your anus, and the people promoting urbanism want neither. I guess that's why they're so obsessed with bikes, but bikes suck balls too as I already mentioned. They are a shitty bandaid solution that only really work inside of a city or maybe in a REALLY CLOSE suburb due to their slow speed and are ridiculously uncomfortable for longer distances (Take this from someone who sat on an ebike for 2 hours to travel when I didn't have a car, ass was hurting like fuck every trip i took with it).

Worse yet, they're tremendously easy to steal and most governments don't do shit about it; I once left a bike outside a grocery store for 5 minutes unlocked to quickly grab something, even though I did this as quick as humanly possible, the bike was gone once I came back. There was another instance where I had a 1500 euro E-bike that I decided to lock in a PROTECTED SHELTER that had FUCKING CAMERAS pointed RIGHT WHERE I LOCKED MY FUCKING BIKE. It was stolen, I decided to ask for the footage, the shelter referred me to the police, who then referred me to the shelter, who then referred me to the police. I asked for an investigation which was rejected (Even though it's the easiest shit to investigate because it was on fucking camera in 4K) and after my appeal came in, the shelter already had the footage wiped because it's only on there for a week. I'm still pissed off at this. This wouldn't have happened had I saved my money and spent it on a drivers license and a car instead. And these urbanists never talk about this, but every single person who has ever lived in the Netherlands or Germany has had their bike stolen at least once and the police does not do shit because they're not officially licensed vehicles. The amount of money you lose from bike theft is about as comparable or even worse than the costs of a car.

No matter how you look at it, car is better at anything a bicycle does and any trade off is absolutely worth it for the mobility.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Childcare (or lack thereof) is one thing you never hear urbanists talk about other than the basic liberal line of how daycares should be government-supported (if not government-run), they never talk about their children.

Indeed. I heard good things about the childcare program of the HOA even though it's summer only. I noticed a good portion of reddit, and I assume this includes this part as well, really hate children. Some will parrot "Have less children!" and would unironically support one child policies if they could if not already.

I'm not even sure what they know they want

All they want to be is contrarians, and to always complain. If they get given the slightest inch they will cry how it's not enough. It's their gay space communism shit, a fantasyland for them, but hell for others.

 

[quaawaa]

The Secretary of Transportation announced that the feds are pulling funding for California's High Speed Rail:

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Trump’s Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy Releases Report Exposing No Viable Path Forward for California’s High-Speed Rail Boondoggle​

Wednesday, June 4, 2025

Report identifies years of mismanagement, broken promises, and wasted federal taxpayer dollars​

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy today released the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) Compliance Review Report finding that the California High-Speed Rail Authority (CHSRA)’s high speed rail project is in default of the terms of its federal grant awards. The detailed report, which is over 300 pages, contains 9 key findings including missed deadlines, budget shortfalls, and overrepresentation of projected ridership. The two grants total roughly $4 billion in taxpayer money. As the letter notes, CHSRA has up to 37 days to respond, after which the grants could be terminated.

In a letter to CHSRA’s CEO, Ian Choudri, the FRA noted its report identified a trail of project delays, mismanagement, waste, and skyrocketing costs. The project has received approximately $6.9 billion in federal dollars in roughly fifteen years but has not laid a single high-speed track. Even with continued federal support, the project is far short of the funding needed to finish just a fraction of the track.

“I promised the American people we would be good stewards of their hard-earned tax dollars. This report exposes a cold, hard truth: CHSRA has no viable path to complete this project on time or on budget. CHSRA is on notice — If they can’t deliver on their end of the deal, it could soon be time for these funds to flow to other projects that can achieve President Trump’s vision of building great, big, beautiful things again,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy. “Our country deserves high-speed rail that makes us proud – not boondoogle trains to nowhere.”

Please find a copy of the full letter and full report HERE.​

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

In February, Secretary Duffy announced that USDOT would be launching an investigation into the CHSRA’s high-speed rail project and reviewing two grants awarded to the project: a $929 million Cooperative Agreement from 2010 and a $3.07 billion Cooperative Agreement from last year.

Under the Secretary’s direction, FRA conducted a detailed review of CHSRA’s compliance with federal grant agreements related to over $4 billion in funding. As part of its investigation, the FRA has contacted state oversight entities, visited construction sites, conducted a risk analysis, met with CHSRA officials, and reviewed several thousand documents.

FRA’s report is 310 pages, inclusive of supporting attachments, and contains 9 key findings:

1. CHSRA has executed numerous change orders and will likely have many more change orders in the near future to account for contractor expenses as a result of project delays.
2. CHSRA has already missed its deadline for finalizing its rolling stock procurement.
3. CHSRA has at least a $7 billion funding gap to complete the EOS, with no credible plan to secure additional funds.
4. CHSRA does not have a viable path to complete the EOS by 2033 per its commitment in the FY10 Agreement and the FSP Agreement.
5. CHSRA relies on volatile non-federal funding sources, which present significant project risk.
6. CHSRA lacks time and money to electrify the EOS by 2033.
7. CHSRA’s budget contingency is inadequate to cover anticipated contractor delay claims.
8. CHSRA has overrepresented its ridership projections for the EOS substantially.
9. CHSRA lacks the capacity to deliver the EOS by 2033.

Find excerpts from the report below:

Given CHSRA’s past performance, including substantial change orders, numerous contractor delay claims, protracted third-party arrangements, failure to account adequately for project risk, and lack of a credible plan to close the $7 billion funding gap, CHSRA is not likely to complete the Early Operating Segment (EOS) by 2033. In executing the FSP Agreement and reobligating the FY10 Agreement, FRA relied on CHSRA’s representations, which were included as commitments in the funding agreements, that CHSRA would deliver the EOS by 2033.

To secure substantial Federal funding, CHSRA represented that it could connect major metropolitan cities in California, but can now only deliver a system that is reduced substantially and delayed significantly, which may connect two random endpoints.

As such, CHSRA’s inability to deliver the EOS by 2033 renders the CHSR Project inconsistent with the goals of the HSIPR Program and constitutes a Project Material Change under the FSP Agreement. These findings support a conclusion that CHSRA is in default under the FSP Agreement and the CHSR Project no longer effectuates the goals of the funding programs, which may give rise to an action under the funding agreements, which could include termination.

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Similarly, in 2008, the CHSR System was represented as a two-phase visionary system connecting Los Angeles to San Francisco, CA, and later north to Sacramento, CA, and south to San Diego, CA. Since then, the project footprint has been dramatically reduced from an 800-mile segment to a 171-mile segment to the current vision—119-miles. Despite substantial Federal support and funding, CHSRA does not have the capacity to deliver the full CHSR System. This 2025 compliance review demonstrates that CHSRA has not learned from its mistakes and mismanagement and has therefore failed to create an organization capable of effectively and efficiently managing project delivery. Despite the substantial scope reduction, the CHSR Project still continues to face numerous delays and cost overruns. At this rate, CHSRA will never complete the CHSR System. Further, CHSRA has not acted in good faith in making representations to FRA regarding its ability complete the EOS with a reasonable budget and schedule. This not only gives rise to the conditions creating default under the agreement, but also raises a reasonable question about whether continued Federal investment in the CHSR System is a prudent use of taxpayer dollars.

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He also tweeted this, which will really piss off the urbanists:

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[Xarpho's Return]

Funnily enough, none of the comments saying this are actually made by Europeans. And all the comments made by Europeans are just saying "I fucking hate my country" and shitting on their public transport systems.

In my eyes, public transport can only ever work in either a homogenous (white) society or a police state where violating the etiquette will get your balls cut off and bottles shoved up your anus, and the people promoting urbanism want neither.

That's because urbanism is closely tied to modern liberalism, which involves coddling criminals and other problems instead of punishing them like a functioning society would.

The Secretary of Transportation announced that the feds are pulling funding for California's High Speed Rail:

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He also tweeted this, which will really piss off the urbanists:

We all know he's right about the CAHSR project—and urbanists have blamed Republicans on the project's non-starter status anyway. Besides, at the very least it lights a fire under CHSRA and see if they can bullshit their way out of it or find a third party to throw under the bus (or train, rather).

He's also right about Americans and cars because literally everyone but the soy-faced bugmen prefer them. Most poor people would gladly trade up to cars if they could, and interviews with people who took mass transit in the early 2020s said as much—the people that stayed were typically the people who had no other choice. Immigrants and non-whites? They love them. Big cities? Almost everyone in blue areas has a vehicle and uses it, there's a reason why there's more traffic and they get the most highway funding.

Some urbanists will admit that it's true and wish that it was different (though I have my suspicions that Europeans would rather drive), while others will straight up call him wrong with zero evidence.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Transit is used because you have to, or because you're a tourist. There's really no middle ground.

The number of cities where transit beats car can be counted on one hand, and then only in certain cases.

The only real competition to the car is actually walking, because the place you're going is so close that parking is further.

 

[Jotch]

Transit beats car in a one dimensional world.

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

though I have my suspicions that Europeans would rather drive

A few years back I did a huge roadtrip in Europe. The highways are fantastic. In France and Spain at least, there are quality eats at the rest stops. Germans have better cars and of course we all know about the autobahns.

It is true that it kind of sucks to drive around the city centers, but there, and only there, is it better at least time/money wise to use transit and then of course you have Northern and Southern Africa with you.

Haven't been to the Netherlands where these bugmen seem to be attracted in many years, but in France at least, if you drive not too far west of Paris you have ... suburbs and big box stores and single family homes with people driving around.

 

[Lovely Kin]

The Secretary of Transportation announced that the feds are pulling funding for California's High Speed Rail:

What a worthless project. It was never going anywhere and it was going to be one of those things California threw millions at. Just like the houses for the homeless that went nowhere

Transit is used because you have to, or because you're a tourist. There's really no middle ground.

Even when touring and visiting other countries, my great uncle preferred driving as he didn't care for the public transportation there. He described it being better than the US, but he didn't get why some salivated over how good it was. I think he enjoyed Japan's public transport, but he made it clear "certain groups" in America wouldn't have allowed it to be nice.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Just like the houses for the homeless that went nowhere

Nonsense.

They spent $800,000 per unit for the homeless.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Transit is used because you have to, or because you're a tourist. There's really no middle ground.

The number of cities where transit beats car can be counted on one hand, and then only in certain cases.

The only real competition to the car is actually walking, because the place you're going is so close that parking is further.

Even then, walking only works under a very limited radius. It's like a melee weapon in a world where long distance weaponry is needed (but when you DO get those chance encounters, it works very well).

A few years back I did a huge roadtrip in Europe. The highways are fantastic. In France and Spain at least, there are quality eats at the rest stops. Germans have better cars and of course we all know about the autobahns.

It is true that it kind of sucks to drive around the city centers, but there, and only there, is it better at least time/money wise to use transit and then of course you have Northern and Southern Africa with you.

Haven't been to the Netherlands where these bugmen seem to be attracted in many years, but in France at least, if you drive not too far west of Paris you have ... suburbs and big box stores and single family homes with people driving around.

Quality eats are everywhere if you have a vehicle in the United States, too. You could eat McDonald's or Chester's from a truck stop, but unless you're out in the middle of nowhere, you can find quality restaurants in the cities within a mile or two of the freeway.

What a worthless project. It was never going anywhere and it was going to be one of those things California threw millions at. Just like the houses for the homeless that went nowhere

Millions? They've spent BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars at this point (about $23B) and the most optimistic numbers out there require three times that amount.

Nonsense.

They spent $800,000 per unit for the homeless.

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[Beautiful Border]

Video shared on the /r/fuckcars subreddit:

They really are just slowly reinventing the car, aren't they?

 

[Kiska]

The Secretary of Transportation announced that the feds are pulling funding for California's High Speed Rail:

2 decades and America's "First high speed rail" did not even lay a single mile of usable track. Good riddance to that money pit, I hope they investigate what made the Honolulu metro cost $12 billion next for a line that links a stadium parking lot to a suburb, well short of anywhere actually urban in that island. This is why DOGE is a good thing and nearly everyone in government is working to undermine it hard, these concepts can and do work in places but they're being used as vectors to grift taxpayers out of billions and end up with nothing.

 

[Dasjas Watanid Tabas]

I have a suspicion that in a decade or so the Neo Urbanist soys will argue that the only appropriate dwelling for 21st century and beyond is a favela because it's how le diverse BIPOC folxerinos of the Global South live and every other type of settlement was invented by racist mayonnaise ghouls and makes the BIPOCerinos cry. They already love commieblocks and gigantic bughives and complain how any style of buildings that isn't Brutalism is reactionary and chuddy, it shouldn't take them long to make the jump to "You know what? All those commieblocks we love look too... Eurocentric. They look like something a wh*te m*n would come up with, they don't look welcoming to the refugees from DR Congo, Nepal and Haiti, let's replace them with shoddily assembled shanties, preferably built on slopes and cliffs. And if you don't think so, then remeber who also didn't want to live in a diverse ghetto, sweat summer chuderino!"

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I have a suspicion that in a decade or so the Neo Urbanist soys will argue that the only appropriate dwelling for 21st century and beyond is a favela because it's how le diverse BIPOC folxerinos of the Global South live and every other type of settlement was invented by racist mayonnaise ghouls and makes the BIPOCerinos cry. They already love commieblocks and gigantic bughives and complain how any style of buildings that isn't Brutalism is reactionary and chuddy, it shouldn't take them long to make the jump to "You know what? All those commieblocks we love look too... Eurocentric. They look like something a wh*te m*n would come up with, they don't look welcoming to the refugees from DR Congo, Nepal and Haiti, let's replace them with shoddily assembled shanties, preferably built on slopes and cliffs. And if you don't think so, then remeber who also didn't want to live in a diverse ghetto, sweat summer chuderino!"

I don't know. The appeal of commieblocks is partly because it is misrepresented. Unless you were able to grease some wheels of the Party, you essentially crammed a whole family into a studio apartment. You were lucky if you got even another room, and children didn't have their own rooms. This page has Soviet-era apartments and while it paints an extremely optimistic picture of apartments it still comes off as grim. (They don't mention if bathrooms were shared or not).

The urbanist view of commieblocks is cozy studio apartments you get for free, right near schools and commercial establishments. KWC is extremely obscure, we have a cutaway view of it (who knows the accuracy, we also have the same things for Ancient Rome) but from what little we know of it in terms of documented sources, there's dark, narrow corridors, pollution from unlicensed factories and probably an enormous amount of mold (IMAGINE THE SMELL), extremely dangerous (one reason why there's probably so little documentation), and a very reclusive population. (There's the cope of "most residents were not involved in crime", but combining the passive sociopathy of big-city dwellers and the disregard of human life in China means that they could watch someone die and do literally nothing). I am sure that if KWC had not been demolished it would've collapsed or suffered a massive fire—the biggest structure collapse/fire death count in modern times.

But favelas are fairly well-documented and they suck. I just don't see it happening, at least not among most urbanists.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

KWC is extremely obscure, we have a cutaway view of it (who knows the accuracy, we also have the same things for Ancient Rome) but from what little we know of it in terms of documented sources, there's dark, narrow corridors, pollution from unlicensed factories and probably an enormous amount of mold (IMAGINE THE SMELL), extremely dangerous (one reason why there's probably so little documentation), and a very reclusive population. (There's the cope of "most residents were not involved in crime", but combining the passive sociopathy of big-city dwellers and the disregard of human life in China means that they could watch someone die and do literally nothing). I am sure that if KWC had not been demolished it would've collapsed or suffered a massive fire—the biggest structure collapse/fire death count in modern times.

IIRC a West German TV crew did a documentary in the 80s. There's also this book I have. The authors spent four years up to 1992 inside the walled city.

EDIT: If you can, get City of Darkness: Revisited. It was a Kickstarter funded reprint with new material included, which I actually backed and stumbling across it was how I heard about the walled city.