Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Useful_Mistake]

@Useful_Mistake not trying to back seat janny, just a genuine question. would it be okay for me to report all of the derailing posts, or would that just annoy you?

Feel free.

 

[and six goriilion others]

So if I understand the sequence of events:

1. Rustle spent the hearing sending hooker emails and ignored the initial statement staying discovery
2. When Judge Bowtie reiterated the stay, Russell said in effect, "Too bad, I'm doing it anyway."
3. Judge Bowtie issued an official ruling staying discovery except for the restraining order
4. Russell waits a full month to pull his little subpoena stunt
5. It gets rendered null (heh) and void as it is in direct violation of the judge's ruling
6. Russell is now facing sanctions and will likely fall back on ol' reliable: "I'm a broke pro se retard, yuh onah!"

Truly, he has earned the title "God's Favorite Idiot."

I would put "lied to the clerk about it being an exception to the judge's ruling" between 5 and 6, without that I think Greer had a way bigger chance of pulling the retard pro se card. Step 1-4 can be explained as just being a retard in my opinion (getting a subpoena seems not the easiest as not a lawyer), lying to the clerk is something else. It's not like the order is difficult to find and/or interpret, Greer should know that order. And from what I read here I don't think the clerks are necessarily expected to know the orders.
Greer really didn't have to double down like that after getting caught. He should've checked the order after Hardin informed him it's wrong if Greer truly believed it was an exception.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

The Hardin Boys™ fanclub just needs to wait for Greee to file a motion that the court is discriminating against him because he's a disabled mong and are favoring Hardin because he's conventionally attractive, and the court should accept his motions to help with his disability.

 

[DHugo]

The Hardin Boys™ fanclub just needs to wait for Greee to file a motion that the court is discriminating against him because he's a disabled mong and are favoring Hardin because he's conventionally attractive, and the court should accept his motions to help with his disability.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i'm just a small little gobwin
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
please don't sanction me i will be evicted in just one month
I oNly havE $5000 for hookers pleas e sir i am a little goblin i can't pay sanctions
nOOOOOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOO
your filing is so strong i am level one goblin i donot know why i start this lawsuit OOOOOOHHhh
/rgreer/

 

[RodgerDodger]

At this point I'm convinced Greer could just assault Hardin in the parking lot and the judge would simply tell him not to do that and keep the case going. Feels like the court is willing to let anything happen because "Kiwi Farms Evil!!!"

At this point I'm starting to believe Bennet has discovered the farms and is now a top tier shitposter. Venting his ever building frustration about retarded assholes in a productive and cathartic manner.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

ECF 331

He did file it after all! It has been backdated to yesterday.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Yep, the predictable "I'm too retarded to know that a stay of discovery means I can't subpoena my opponent for information!"

Also, while I've got you, "can you go ahead and modify the stay so I can subpoena Stalker Hitler for information I super duper need?"

 

[obsdj]

ECF 331

What an utter fucktard. And it's obvious that he is lying, not just being stupid, because he does not cite the order in which discovery was stayed.



The ONLY exception to the discovery stay was the order for Greer to produce the Utah documents, and he knows that. He knows how to cite court documents when he wants to.

 

[RodgerDodger]

"Matthew is a pro hac vice attorney, whose credentials im highly skeptical of. These pestering emails are an example."

Hardin and Greer are about the same age. When Hardin graduated from law school, Rusty was still struggling to complete his paralegal AAS. When Hardin was the Commonwealth's Attorney for Greene County, VA (meaning he was the county's chief prosecutor) Greer was working as a janitor and getting his ass handed to him by Greg Skordas.

But sure, be skeptical of HIS credentials.

That little malicious tidbit in Greeee's lying e-mail to the Clerks is if anything the thing that will piss the Judges off the most. "Who the Fuck does this retard think he is?" Will be going through their heads. You don't do this. You especially don't do this to a Federal Court where decorum and polite respect for all parties is how it operates.

I wonder if Greer is about to lose his courtesy greeeeemail privileges? The Clerk accepting and filing his motions via e-mail is not a requirement. They may just tell him to put a fucking stamp on it going forward.

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

Time travel truly is on the table for this case. Holy shit am I confused

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Time travel truly is on the table for this case. Holy shit am I confused

What are you confused about?

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

On June 5th, Mr. Greer asked counsel for Defendants if they will accept a subpoena. Mr.
Hardin told Greer that discovery is stayed. As seen on the docket, Defendants are now bizarrely
claiming plaintiff has violated the Stay; however, this assertion is utterly ridiculous because this
Court said that the motion to stay did not apply to finding who the John Does are.

When did the court say that? That would be a good thing to have quoted if it were real.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Courtlistener now has the documents. Also, attached as a single pdf and images.
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Spoiler: Images

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Who are Stuart Harman and AAnderson at that law firm? I don't see a lawyer named that on their site.

 

[obsdj]

He did file it after all! It has been backdated to yesterday.

Speaking of backdating, it seems a fair number of Greer's filings have appeared late in the docket recently, sometimes a day or more after they've been stamped. Is it possible that there's an instruction not to enter his filings as soon as they come in so that they can be reviewed? (Obviously that would not apply to the subpoena since that's not a filing.)

 

[LiveFromNS]

ECF 331
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He did file it after all! It has been backdated to yesterday.

Russell always says if he could just explain then people would understand.

Yet, nowhere does he explain why/how he believes discovery was NOT stayed in relation to the Does. Doesn't refer to the transcript to show how he came up with that position.

I recall a case I worked on here in Canada where the pro se was similarly a babbling idiot and way in over their head. After a short time, the judge ordered that he retain proper legal counsel as he was basically a fuckwit. In the alternative, if he could not find counsel, then he was ordered to provide to the Court "Security for Costs" which is sometimes used when it is obvious the plaintiff has a meritless case. If they intend to keep wasting the Court's time, and the Defendant(s) money, then plaintiff needs to provide funds to court so when the inevitable happened and they lost, the Defendants could recoup some of their losses. I remember making such a motion many decades ago and was successful, I believe it was $5,000, which in today's money would probably be well over 10K.

Is there such a similar motion/application in the US for Security for Costs? Or is the Sanctions aspect sort of in lieu of that? Now that his IFP status is gone, maybe the door is open for such a motion, assuming there is one that can be made by Mr. Hardin?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

When did the court say that?

It didn't.

Who are Stuart Harman and AAnderson at that law firm? I don't see a lawyer named that on their site.

The guy that sponsored Mr. Hardin to be allowed to appear pro hac vice, if I recall correctly.

 

[DavidS877]

Can Mr. Hardin's response to this motion simply be "See attached" and a copy of the transcript and the written order with the appropriate portions highlighted?

Also, I assume he'll need to send a supplemental authority to increase his sanction request for dealing with this shit.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Speaking of backdating, it seems a fair number of Greer's filings have appeared late in the docket recently, sometimes a day or more after they've been stamped. Is it possible that there's an instruction not to enter his filings as soon as they come in so that they can be reviewed? (Obviously that would not apply to the subpoena since that's not a filing.)

I mean, it is possible, but it probably prejudices both the Plaintiff and the Defense if they aren't informed of such a thing.

Can Mr. Hardin's response to this motion simply be "See attached" and a copy of the transcript and the written order with the appropriate portions highlighted?

I don't think he needs to respond. If he chooses to, I'd just say that it's moot, as the Judge already advised the clerk that Russ had violated the stay.

 

[RodgerDodger]

ECF 331
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He did file it after all! It has been backdated to yesterday.

Surprisingly succinct for Greer. But comlete bullshit. He never read the order and was barely listening in the hearing.

Greer had months to seek this information. He should have attempted to determine who these people were before adding them to the case. He had months to request this before Discovery was stayed. His inability or failure to plan HIS CASE does not obligate the non moving party to assist him.

 

[obsdj]

I don't think he needs to respond. If he chooses to, I'd just say that it's moot, as the Judge already advised the clerk that Russ had violated the stay.

It's not just a motion for clarification though. He also requests that the order be modified so that he can serve the Does. I think Hardin does need to respond to that (which means he will rack up another sanctions item for attorney's fees).