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About 2020, I'd argue it was not really that coordinated, many small groups of negress counting vote and cheating, as they are wont to do. Many of them clearly got spooked around 1-2 am and dropped the pretense and only filled the president slot.
Maybe. But by way of comparison, the success of confidential planning, if in existence, was kept better what our current administration is capable of doing (RE: Slack leaks)
 
The vote margins are so thin that they need some of their members who represent these areas. If they get enough done, expand they're majority in 26, they might be able to do something about this. Until then they don't have the leverage to get to out.
Sadly i've seen the movie before. Once this stuff gets in it never goes away. Still remember McCain and the RINOs campaigning on repeal of obamacare and then sticking it to voters by saying 'we can't remove it now because people depend on it.' No shit you make it illegal not to have it.


The coverup in 2020 wasn't the events, various places like rassmusion have detailed all the funky shit. The real coverup was the courts. Latches and standing bullshit. Trump somehow needed to file in the middle of the election but not before or after a certain time.
 
Best Jew slapping Miss Massie's heckin' great reddit post as a tweet around a bit:

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It's really becoming apparent ConInc. thought Trump wouldn't deport them all and are scrambling.
Some interesting replies in that post Massie made.

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Directly from the Grok posting he promoted:
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If Massie got his way on the matter CBP would be hamstrung. The big thing he claims to want is spending cuts to match the tax cuts but for that realistically to be done you'll be cutting into some stuff people probably prefer not to be slashed.

Honestly he can talk all he wants but he isn't the primary issue anymore, the Big Beautiful Bill made it through the House. The real problem right now is if it will be supported by the Senate or not.
 
At this point, arguing or bickering over Trump+Epstein is fucking dumb. Just as dumb as arguing over the integrety of the 2020 Presidential election. In both cases, there should be no more "evidence" left to discover. People believe what they believe based on what's out there. Personally, I have to lean on the side of Trump not having much to do with Epstein island and the children fucking because god damn. If the Dems had complete control for 4 years and DIDN'T FUCKING USE THAT WHEN THEY WERE THROWING EVERYTHING ELSE AT HIM, then that's more of an indictment of how incompetent the Dems were with the information.

I feel the same about 2020. IF the Dems pulled off a global pandemic and coordinated 1000's of election workers across the country without so much as a leaked Slack chat or DM chain, then bravo. They deserved their 4 years.
the whole "to big to contain" logic for why a conspiracy would not work went out the window for me when I read more about what they WILL TELL US about the manhattan project, I know leading with "What they will tell us" sounds very conspiratorial and thats not where im going with this particular point, I just dont think its all been declassified yet but Ill show you a little of what was.

So for all of you "They would need thousands of people to stay quiet" let me introduce you to Oak Ridge, Tennessee a town (in 1945) of 75,000 people making it the 5th largest city in the state, only interesting thing is, from 1943 to 1945 it DIDENT EXIST, atleast on paper and to the rest of the world. A whole city of nearly 100 thousand people was completely secret to the wider world. I wanna go on about how crazy the details of all this but I think its better left to the purpose made videos to give you an idea of just how capable to US government is of hiding large projects and how the average person is unwilling to believe 1 whistleblower saying "there is a secret government project I was apart of" hell just look at what happens to Boeing whistleblowers.

 
the whole "to big to contain" logic for why a conspiracy would not work went out the window for me when I read more about what they WILL TELL US about the manhattan project,
I cannot adequately describe how fucking retarded it is to compare the available communication and documentation structures in society of the 1940's with the 2020's and use them interchangeably as an argument against leaks, whistleblowers and general human incompetence.
 
So for all of you "They would need thousands of people to stay quiet" let me introduce you to Oak Ridge, Tennessee a town (in 1945) of 75,000 people making it the 5th largest city in the state, only interesting thing is, from 1943 to 1945 it DIDENT EXIST, atleast on paper and to the rest of the world.
It was also home to the largest single building in the world at the time.
 
Funniest thing is Massie responding to people with Grok instead of explaining shit himself so he clearly just doesn't know and/or give a fuck. He keeps saying $100b for deportations isn't for deportations but even Grok shits on him and shows that woah yes it's actually for deportations.

Total fucking loser lmao.

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massie's twitter is fucking hilarious rn

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the "boilerplate" link he's giving


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massie also wants california to regulate AI

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None of those people, not even your savior, has serious beliefs about anything. They are sociopaths and psychopaths. Anyone with any experience even in regional politics knows this.
"everyone in politics is a sociopath" We know, retard. Trump is clearly superior to everyone else in politics in every way not excluding in morality. Actions speak louder than words and Trump has a plethora of documentation and proof of his actions helping more normal everyday Americans than anyone else in government has and he wasn't even a politician let alone President for the majority of it.

If you have a job there's 95% chance you work for a sociopath much worse than Trump and understand very well what it's like to work for them, that's why these people like Trump so much. No one is taking your blackpill, fag.
 
I cannot adequately describe how fucking retarded it is to compare the available communication and documentation structures in society of the 1940's with the 2020's and use them interchangeably as an argument against leaks, whistleblowers and general human incompetence.

What you're saying is an argument FOR how much easier it to better manipulate the public in 2025, not an argument against it. This was why it was so important to fully gain control of the internet, complete with creating the influencers and grifters.

For fuck's sake, people believe almost anything they hear on Joe Rogan when he has a legit verified CIA agent sitting next to him. Isn't he friends with Musk too? Man, these coincidences just add up so fast.
 
Honestly he can talk all he wants but he isn't the primary issue anymore, the Big Beautiful Bill made it through the House. The real problem right now is if it will be supported by the Senate or not.
You say that like the senate won't make massive changes and send it back to the house. e.g. No Tax on Tips which Tillis wants to castrate or completely remove. So if massie can get enough he can block it when it gets to the house again. The dems seeing chaos will show a unified front and republicans need all 218.
 
Some interesting replies in that post Massie made.

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Directly from the Grok posting he promoted:
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If Massie got his way on the matter CBP would be hamstrung. The big thing he claims to want is spending cuts to match the tax cuts but for that realistically to be done you'll be cutting into some stuff people probably prefer not to be slashed.

Honestly he can talk all he wants but he isn't the primary issue anymore, the Big Beautiful Bill made it through the House. The real problem right now is if it will be supported by the Senate or not.

Massie is fucking retarded. Grok is not a reliable source of information or conclusions.

The question is, what money allocated isn't related to the border wall or deportation, and groks answer are things directly related to border enforcement.

Expanding CBP facilities - How does this not impact deportation? If you can hold more people, you can deport more. Fucking simple!

Expanding CBP personnel - How does hiring more agents not relate to deporting people?

Musks AI is fucking broken.
 
I cannot adequately describe how fucking retarded it is to compare the available communication and documentation structures in society of the 1940's with the 2020's and use them interchangeably as an argument against leaks, whistleblowers and general human incompetence.
alright smart guy, where you going to leak your evidence? I get its 2025 but people could be posting real photos of aliens on 4chan all the time, there could be proof of JFK assassination with the dump but im not even sure people bothered to go through it all. You get the point? There is so much noise and bullshit even if you do have something real no one will take it seriously and the groups your attempting to disrupt will be sure to thank you for the attempt.

We live in the age of the death of truth, atleast in the 1940s they couldn't edit the newspaper after they printed it.
 
It's a meme but for reals. Elon Musk banked all his financial & political assets with Trump and he crashed out in the end.

Fuck.
Well, that's what he gets. Doubly so for people that have faith in this system to treat politicians as idols or trying to buy your way into political influence. The United States isn't an oligarchy, at least I HOPE it isn't.
 
"everyone in politics is a sociopath" We know, retard. Trump is clearly superior to everyone else in politics in every way not excluding in morality. Actions speak louder than words and Trump has a plethora of documentation and proof of his actions helping more normal everyday Americans than anyone else in government has and he wasn't even a politician let alone President for the majority of it.

If you have a job there's 95% chance you work for a sociopath much worse than Trump and understand very well what it's like to work for them, that's why these people like Trump so much. No one is taking your blackpill, fag.

He has done nothing of substance, except maybe enrage everyday libs, which was admittedly funny. He also wasn't an "outsider." That's a common Republican talking point to get plebs to stay invested. See outsiders like Reagan, Bush, etc. I was also reliably told Hawley, Johnson, Bondi, and so many others were "outsiders." You people always fall for the "outsider" meme.

Edit: also it's lolz af = "he's the best moral choice!" and "fuck you we know he's a sociopath!"
 
Some interesting replies in that post Massie made.

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Directly from the Grok posting he promoted:
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If Massie got his way on the matter CBP would be hamstrung. The big thing he claims to want is spending cuts to match the tax cuts but for that realistically to be done you'll be cutting into some stuff people probably prefer not to be slashed.

Honestly he can talk all he wants but he isn't the primary issue anymore, the Big Beautiful Bill made it through the House. The real problem right now is if it will be supported by the Senate or not.
I still can’t believe he is using grok as a source he truly is Indian at heart
 
You say that like the senate won't make massive changes and send it back to the house. e.g. No Tax on Tips which Tillis wants to castrate or completely remove. So if massie can get enough he can block it when it gets to the house again. The dems seeing chaos will show a unified front and republicans need all 218.
If it does go back to the House there is a possibility it gets stuck or dies there since it only passed with one vote to spare and some Republicans (not just Massie) are apparently expressing regret over approving it so quickly. There is also the fact while legislators like Paul and Massie are especially loud about there not being tax cuts, a not insignificant amount of Senators may vote No on it when the times come because they think Medicaid spending cuts within it are too much.

There is a possibility the Big Beautiful Bill will get stuck in "negotiation" hell which would definitely be a blow to Republicans and the POTUS.
 
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