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Shit, was it the Japanese? Been a couple years since I read up on it, of course I'd forget the one time it wasn't Ching Chong related. We've had problems with the Emerald Ash Borers out here in SW Ohio, probably just bled over. Don't get old if you can help it Kiwis, you start confusing all the racist hatefacts you learned in your youth.
Well, chestnut blight was white folks who brought them in the first time and that's why quarantine and USDA-APHIS exists. There was a GMO chesnut that had 100% resistance but it got killed by the Biden era EPA review. Some madman had the idea to put a wheat oxidase gene in it and it was 100% lethal to blight.
EAB is a chink import 100%, they were too lazy to treat wood pallets with methyl bromide.
 
There was a GMO chesnut that had 100% resistance but it got killed by the Biden era EPA review.
Out of all of Biden's bullshit, his ability to directly harm American agriculture is probably the most explicitly evil and chinesium fellatioing rawdog to our future he's ever done.
 
This isn't directly related to the LA riots but it is about immigration so it's on topic. Has anyone else noticed that assimilation or at least attempting to assimilate just isn't a thing anymore? When I was a kid 20+ years ago immigrants would at the very least try to learn English. That's not a thing anymore. Mexicans, Indians, Somali's all speak their own languages, stay in their ethnic enclave sand there is zero attempt whatsoever to become American. None. It's almost as if the entire concept of "Americanization" is just dead now and we've stopped pretending people (other then Europeans and East Asians) assimilate.
If half the citizens in the nation don't want you to assimilate because they want you gone, and the other half don't want you to assimilate out of white guilt, what reason is there to even try?
If the host nation does not care, would you? Fuck no you wouldn't.
 
Can someone explain to me what “realistic border spending” means? becuase that either means
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He won't define it. You'll note he's not making suggestions, just complaints.

"Realistic Border Spending" is an attempt to get the right to accept a core tenant of the left: That the immigrants are here to stay and we can't do anything about it so we might as well figure out how to integrate them into their new voting bloc. Er, ghettos. Er, country.

It should be rejected out of hand. His goal isn't to make the bill better, or to fix the bill, it's to kill the bill and do nothing instead. He should be primaried and investigated for tax fraud.
 
A few 'non-profits" in Asheville NC are posting the EXACT LOCATION of ICE agents on Facebook every single day.

Not only that, but they are literally sending "scouts" out with cameras to check on "suspicious looking" vehicles that could potentially be ICE.

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The thing is that the vast majority of people don't want illegal immigrants in this country. I know it can be hard to see that through the haze of astroturfing , the media, USAID, and "non profits" but the polling data is out there from the time of the election.

The DNC desperately tried to claw back their position more and more as it became apparent they were losing.

Even in New York and Chicago when Abbot starting bussing in people by the bus the not in my back yard liberals started having a fit especially now that the narrative of illegals don't get benefits is systematically debunked.

This is a strange hill to die on, much like men in women's sports it's just not popular and you can see the trends even on polls that are biased because people are afraid to be honest and risk consequences to their careers and social lives.

We are sending them back.
 
A few 'non-profits" in Asheville NC are posting the EXACT LOCATION of ICE agents on Facebook every single day.

Not only that, but they are literally sending "scouts" out with cameras to check on "suspicious looking" vehicles that could potentially be ICE.

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absolute fucking madness. I'm pretty sure they could be arrested for obstructing justice.
 
Probably more like 5 to 10. I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure a photovoltaic cell is down to 50% of its max energy production in that time frame. Nuclear doesn't give a fuck, give it water and fuel rods and it's on. And with Small Modular Reactors, you can even get them to smaller and more isolated communities. Solar's great for off-the-grid applications, I'm not going to shit on it where it's actually useful, but for baseload? Forget about it, nuclear with natural gas and/or coal to handle surges and such? Can't beat it.
So first we need to make a differential: There are multiple types of solar.

Photovoltaic solar, the one most people think about, is good for "last mile grid alleviation". Basically put some panels on roofs to offset consumption, and you reduce consumption of delivered power, the most expensive kind. As long as you are in a sunny area, good quality panels will generate more wattage than was used to produce them easily.

There is also Thermal Solar, where you have the big mirror arrays focusing sun to a single point. These have a lot of potential, that is, since you are just using the sun to heat something, that something - called a thermal mass or thermal transfer - will still be hot after the sun goes down so Thermal Solar is the only solar that can still produce power at night.
But you have to build them in the literal no where desert because if it is cloudy they just don't work, and they still haven't figured out a good medium to use for the thermal mass, partly because you need something that can handle wild, wild temperature swings - and all those materials are very toxic so the hippies get uppity about them. also anything that enters the invisible solar death zone will go PIFF. They have a test one of these in California and there are pictures of birds flying past and getting instantly vaporizes as they recieve the Ants-under-magnifying-glass treatment.
Basically hippies continue to fuck up their own cause because the solution isn't perfect.

There is also passive solar, where you just use the sun to heat something up. My father had some Window Boxes he would put out in the winter that were plexiglass-topped squre conduit and they would make a small but noticable difference. I have a friend who has passive-solar set up on his roof he uses to boost the efficiency of his heat-pump water heater. His roof is covered in a winding path of black pipes that he slowly pumps a water-based fluid through. The sun heats the pipe, which heats the fluid, which then goes into the heatpump and dramatically raises the efficiency.

Anyway, there also isn't just one type of Photovoltiac. There are a bunch of chemistries and materials that will turn light into electricity. Cheap PV will degrade in 5-10 years or less, but good quality ones will run for 20 years+. before losing power. My friend has panels from Korea that are warrantied to still be putting out 90% after 20 years (that is, they will replace his hold panel set up if they aren't doing 90% at 20) and the promise (that is backed up by nothing) they will do 50%+ for over 40.

There are lowere-efficiency PVs (I forget the chemistry but we've had them since at least the 50s) that will last pretty much forever, but the output on them is ass, 1-3% iirc.

Ones inside your calculator are usually a decent mix of longevity and poweroutput, but have issues with unfiltered UV unless treated (read; expensive) and weather-fastness.

Oh boo hoo. This spic had to shut down his buisness apparently because ICE showed up. Why buddy? You and your workers are legal, right?
Fuck this guy. If your workers were documented you wouldn't have this problem. Fuck you for enabling your fellow invading spics to ruin a good country. Go back and fix mexico you anchor baby.

Not really politcal but I talked to the curator of a steamboat museum recently and there's essentially no good wood left, as we've used all the ancient trees after the 1900s. Here's a neat video about it.
Not exactly true but also true.
What this guy doesn't take into account is the loss of the ability to harvest (or at least harvest at scale) three hardwood trees in North America:
Elm, Ash, and American Chestnut. American Chestnut being the real one that has hurt the most.
Elm has been plagued by Dutch Elm disease for a while. The species isn't threatened, but most of the naturally occuring groves of high-percentage Elm are harvested and tree farmers aren't planting new trees en-masse because they take decades to grow and your decades-long investment might be wiped out by Dutch Elm.

Ash is relatively more recent; it was starting to get popular and then the Emerald Borer arrived from Asia. The species is under extreme threat due to this invasive insect. The containement protocol is immediate destruction of infected trees, treatment of healthy trees, and then thinning out stands until Ashes are at least 60 feet away from the nearest Ash, as the bugs won't be able to reach uninfected trees at that distance unless infected wood is brought nearby. So having to space trees out like this his, and the risk of losing your harvest if the bugs appear, has virtually ended North American ash as a timber species. Ash you see on the market is European/Asian, or boutique: individual trees or stands that are sold by individuals, or extremely high end timberers willing to put up with the bullshit and risks, and also deal with the federal regulations on transport.

American Chestnut is nearly/functionally extinct thanks to a fungus from asia. It was called the Redwood of the East where they would grow to 100ft+ heights. But unlike slow-growing redwood, where they need about a century to reach harvest size*, American Chestnut was fast growing and you could have lumber quality trees in as little as 30, but usually 50+. The loss of American chestnut has had a knock-over effect because the chestnuts would feed the entire forest.
They thought the species was extinct outside of labs, but someone discovered and intact stand back in the 90s. There are efforts in... Viriginia IIRC to try to create an infection-resistant hybrid, but they are using genetic samples from Asian Chestnut which is virtually unaffected by the fungus (to tl;dr, American Chestnut goes tall and straight, asian chestnut grows crooked and kinky, so when Asian chestnut detects a fungal colony it kinks around into a gall/burl and isolates the infection. American chestnut doesn't so the fungus spreads to the entire truck and kills everything above the roots. They are trying to insert genes to allow the tree's limbs to generate burls when infected, but without causing the trunk to fuck up)

Elm and Chestnut starting dying out in the early 1900s.

They are also ignoring perhaps the greatest, silent timber resources: Japanese Cedar. tl;dr, post WWII they planted thousands upon thousands of Japanese cedar trees. Those trees are now to the age where they NEED to be harvested or they will start dying (which isnt' an issue in natural forests as trees would be dying of old age sporadically, but in these cases these trees are all planted very close in age, so you could have forests full of dead wood - which will breed disease and is a fire risk).
Japan isn't really pushing them internationally (because its not eco-friendly to timber a forest even if that's why the forest was planted in the first place) and IIRC there is a bunch or retaliatory lumber tariff bullshit. The wood also isn't of exceptional quality, but its excellent construction material.
There are also big stands of Japanese Cherry planted under the same program, but these are not being unexploited. Sort of; a large percentage of the harvest is illegal to sell outside of Japan. Its required to be used domestically for various "cultural" industries, and Japanese Cherry heartwood so so dense you have to use special tools and processes to handle it effectively.


*There are ways to reduce this time by basically harvesting a tree but leaving the roots, allowing the roots to sent up new shoots and then pruning shoots down to a single tree, but its still multiple decades.

I do procurement and we've got a couple of companies we buy wood from and one is very obviously better quality. America also lost one of its best trees, the American Chestnut, when they were almost entirely wiped out by a blight from, to no one's surprise, China about a century ago. There's still some survivors, but they're significantly smaller and lower quality.
They are working to try to fix it, but even if they perfected the fungal-resistant hybrids tomorrow we're 50+ years away from harvestable trees. Given the investment vs. risk, that is tree farmers would want to see successful stands grown and harvested, its more likely we're at least a century out from the American Chestnut's return to market.
When you see Chestnut on the market now it is either:
-New-old stock; either recycled from other sources or logs fished up from sawmill ponds or logging rivers. There is some stretch of IIRC the Mississippi that had hundreds of sunken felled chestnut laying at the bottom a company was making a good business on fishing up and processing the logs. They were selling it for ridiculous premiums not just because its old-growth, and not just because its a nearly vanished species, but because it was "eco friendly".
-Allegany or Ozark Dwarf Chestnut or "chinkapin" (especially for veneers). These are smaller and wood isn't as good.
-Asian chestnut that has been carefully cultivated to force it grow reasonably straight. Quality is still ass compared to American Chestnut.
 
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Out of all of Biden's bullshit, his ability to directly harm American agriculture is probably the most explicitly evil and chinesium fellatioing rawdog to our future he's ever done.
I get why they'd killed it off. There was no study on the if the GMO American Chestnut wouldn't eb potentially lethal to humans and effect of the gene in the wild. They wanted to go straight from lab to the forrest, which is insane.

There's also no fucking American chestnuts to harvest nowdays for wood. You'd have to wait 100 years.
 
I get why they'd killed it off. There was no study on the if the GMO American Chestnut wouldn't eb potentially lethal to humans and effect of the gene in the wild. They wanted to go straight from lab to the forrest, which is insane.

There's also no fucking American chestnuts to harvest nowdays for wood. You'd have to wait 100 years.
If we're getting autistically exact (and we are on KF after all) there are still some survivors in the wild and they would be harvestable. Just....no one will unless its storm damage for obvious reasons.

And provided they did go Lab-to-Forest, you could have harvestable trees in 30 years. American chestnut is a canopy tree and grows very big very fast to out compete other trees. You'd really want to wait 50+ for better quality & quantity. But on those timelines no tree farm is going to go all-in a 50-year gamble that might go bust, so we'd need to wait at least 30 years for test harvest and then go all-in. So 80 years on a good day.
 
If the host nation does not care, would you? Fuck no you wouldn't.
Speak for yourself. I would never, under any circumstances, move to a country with no intention of learning their language. Aside from the disrespect it shows to the population, you're just setting yourself up for a life where you are dependent on someone else for any fucking task which requires reading, writing, or speaking.
Case in point, someone on the farms called me a faggot for posting a full image rather than a thumbnail my first week here. Another user insulted me for double posting. If I were a greasy spic, I would demand that they change these policies to accommodate me. I would hire a Jewish lawyer to argue on my behalf, and I would pitch a fit about the horrible discrimination I face as a 4chan rapefugee. Being the reasonable huwhite person that I am, I adjusted my behavior to fit my new surroundings instead. I didn't need someone to politely explain that I am disrupting the site, and request that I stop doing so if it was okay with me.
 
Fuck this guy. If your workers were documented you wouldn't have this problem. Fuck you for enabling your fellow invading spics to ruin a good country. Go back and fix mexico you anchor baby.
He doesn't care about them. He cares about his money.
He arguably hates them more than you do seeing as he exploits them for pennies while pretending to be their friend, all while paying less in taxes (based tbh- fuck the IRS and fuck funding NGOs) and fooling stupid beaners he's a good guy.
If the US gov't offered immunity + a million dollar reward for selling out your alien employees, he'd be the first in line to seek his reward.
 
Why is Trump being so... "collected" about this whole ordeal?
He comes across sad and disappointed to me. He gave Elon a chance, genuinely found the spaceX shit cool, gave him a job in the government to show off his strengths, invited him to watch WWE UFC with him (a genuine hobby for Trump, something he truly enjoys), kept an open door for him to hang out whenever he wanted, accepted his eccentricities, hung out with Elons son, allowed Elon to hang out with his son, and really made Elon a part of his family knowing that Elons relationship with his own family was fucked and he could use a surrogate and to feel belonging.

I don't think they were best friends or anything but I think Trump had a growing fondness for him. I think he genuinely enjoyed hanging out with him and is genuinely disappointed in how Elon is acting. The classic "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed" when you fall short of expectations. Even more fitting because Elon acted like such a child over disagreements and nitpicking.

He could have disagreed in private, stated publicly he has some issues with the BBB but kept it respectful, decided to agree to disagree and respect the strategy of the president of the United States. He had a million different options that would have been decent.

He chose utter selfishness and personal attacks on a public platform instead. That is disappointing.

As a side note I saw this tweet and had to do a double take because I thought I was still on KF and the tweet was going to end with "total fake news death". Who on the Whitehouse team is writing these fucking tweets?

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This isn't directly related to the LA riots but it is about immigration so it's on topic. Has anyone else noticed that assimilation or at least attempting to assimilate just isn't a thing anymore? When I was a kid 20+ years ago immigrants would at the very least try to learn English. That's not a thing anymore. Mexicans, Indians, Somali's all speak their own languages, stay in their ethnic enclave sand there is zero attempt whatsoever to become American. None. It's almost as if the entire concept of "Americanization" is just dead now and we've stopped pretending people (other then Europeans and East Asians) assimilate.
I'd say this even goes for multi-generation "proper" born and bred Americans sadly.

The other day I gave a lift to a chap from Pennsylvania who listed off a litany of nationalities he laid claim to - and "American" wasn't one of them. Polish, Italian, Scottish, Irish; all these identities weighed more heavily in his mind, were more important to him, than simply being "American". To ME he was American. But to himself his own identity was a schizophrenic hodgepodge that paid no homage to his actual nation and culture.

He said "I'd love to visit Ireland some day, the homeland 🥰". I couldn't help but wonder why he values this link to a country he has never been to so highly. A link that is tenuous at best; probably one great great great grandparent or something was Irish, therefore Ireland could be claimed as his heritage. But why not America first and foremost?

I pitied him somewhat for prima facie not having a firm identity. "Isn't it difficult keeping track of all of these identities?" I asked.

"No. And I get to celebrate [insert whatever day of pride (e.g. St Patricks Day) here] too!"

Teddy Roosevelt's big moustached face then popped into my mind for some reason. Hi Teddy. I just realised I also find hyphenated Americans annoying.

It seems that for whatever reason, the melting pot never really melted. Obviously this is a sample size of one, so take it with a grain of salt, but this interaction leads me to think that a firm American identity hasn't obliterated and replaced every other identity in the minds of many Americans, and that is sad. Maybe it's because America is a young nation, with a culture that has been forged over just 3 centuries, rather than formed gradually other thousands of years.

I hope America's 250th birthday celebration is a big bloody deal that Trump really takes advantage of. I think it would help in this regard. (Hopefully it'll be as good as the last one.)

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This isn't directly related to the LA riots but it is about immigration so it's on topic. Has anyone else noticed that assimilation or at least attempting to assimilate just isn't a thing anymore? When I was a kid 20+ years ago immigrants would at the very least try to learn English. That's not a thing anymore. Mexicans, Indians, Somali's all speak their own languages, stay in their ethnic enclave sand there is zero attempt whatsoever to become American. None. It's almost as if the entire concept of "Americanization" is just dead now and we've stopped pretending people (other then Europeans and East Asians) assimilate.

I resent that. Desi niggas nowadays don't bother assimilating because they have schmuck family overseas who did the hard work of assimilating for them. I should know, I'm one of the schmucks who assimilated instead of waiting in my dad's ballsack until 201X and then emigrating to get born here, speak nothing but Hindi/Urdu in America, get free stuff, and no one calling me Hajji or Osama throughout my school years. I can't speak for others, but I will say that within my narrow South Asian focus, there's a real rift between people who've actually put in their time for decades to acclimate vs. people who come here thanks to the assistance family provides, get free stuff, and act like a big shot because 1 USD here is like fucking 80 INR or 150 PKR or whatever the conversion rate is nowadays.

You think I'm exaggerating here, but it boils my blood when I see yet another pendu in Amreeka who's in my age range in my neighbourhood yet they speak absolutely no fucking English, and I gotta subsist on my tenuous mother tongue to tell them "hey asshole, can you stop being such an obnoxiously loud faggot while I'm waiting for the next bus?"
 
Lol this dude had a fortnite skin made of him. I think i might have even gotten it, it was free a few years ago when I was fucking around with that game. Wonder if I could make something funny.
Holy shit I thought I recognized him from somewhere, you totally unlocked a memory for me. He was part of the premium rewards for a battlepass a year or so ago. I didn't even know he was a real person I thought he was an original character for the game!
 
If we're getting autistically exact (and we are on KF after all) there are still some survivors in the wild and they would be harvestable. Just....no one will unless its storm damage for obvious reasons.

And provided they did go Lab-to-Forest, you could have harvestable trees in 30 years. American chestnut is a canopy tree and grows very big very fast to out compete other trees. You'd really want to wait 50+ for better quality & quantity. But on those timelines no tree farm is going to go all-in a 50-year gamble that might go bust, so we'd need to wait at least 30 years for test harvest and then go all-in. So 80 years on a good day.
American Chestnuts aren't my speciality (and even if they were, I'd deny it since it would basically dox me), but the biggest issue I've seen is that wild survivors that aren't die are juvinile saplings. The largest ones (remaining) are found supposedly in the rural backwoods where people don't go and Chestnuts were never the dominant tree. Aside from some outside of the native range of course.

This isn't even getting in the lesser populated areas of Lousiana, Texas, and Arkansas which have Allegheny Chinquapins, which some people argue ought to be just a dwarf form of the American Chestnut. I've heard a tale (X to doubt) that some madman planted Chinquapins, Japanese, Chinese, and Americans on the Edwards Plateau and the sun burnt off the canker that developed on some and killed the Chinese/Japanese Chestnuts lmao.
 
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