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Steve Martin Short said:
JMS was getting lauded at the time mostly because he wasn't Howard Mackie. I give him a little leeway because One More Day was apparently not his idea. That said, Sins Past (the Gwen/Norman pairing nobody wanted) was all him.
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Actually it wasn't the original plan. The idea was for Gwen's twins to be Peter's, but Quesada didn't like the idea of Peter being a father, so he demanded it be changed. I think it being revealed to be Norman was an editorial mandate. I don't know why they didn't just go with Harry. Or even Ned Leeds. Hell, make it Flash Thompson. There were plenty of better candidates than Norman fucking Osborn.

I think it was because it would be the most shocking.
 
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Arthur Morgan said:
Actually it wasn't the original plan. The idea was for Gwen's twins to be Peter's, but Quesada didn't like the idea of Peter being a father, so he demanded it be changed. I think it being revealed to be Norman was an editorial mandate. I don't know why they didn't just go with Harry. Or even Ned Leeds. Hell, make it Flash Thompson. There were plenty of better candidates than Norman fucking Osborn.

I think it was because it would be the most shocking.
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Has Quesada had any ideas that *weren't* retarded?
 
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Circe at one point assumed the guise of Donna Milton, a blonde bespectacled lawyer who gets close to Diana to shadow her and learn her secrets. Unfortunately she ended up befriending her. Eventually she has a child with Ares. Yes THAT Ares.

Unfortunately her daughter, Lita, was wiped from existence after Wonder Woman got rebooted in the late 00's. Currently she doesn't exist.
 
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Has Quesada had any ideas that *weren't* retarded?
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Pushing trades allowed people to read stories they might have missed, and he hired some solid people during his tenure as EIC. The problem was he was too hands off at the start and too hands on once he got comfortable. He never found the right balance for being the Editor in Chief where he could guide the company without forcing it into dumb ideas that were more in line with what he wanted the characters to be, not what would see books, which eventually led to the current Marvel with creators who are telling stories they want people to like instead of what people actually like. And he gave Bendis WAY too much freedom.
 
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Clyde Cash's Left Teste said:
It should have been Dan Slott
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I need a refresher on Dan Slott and why he's disliked. I'm aware of some his lolcow behavior online, but never really followed his run on Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Fantastic Four. Full disclosure, I have met and talked to him before at the Calgary and Edmonton Comic Expos. He didn't say or do anything objectionable, but I also wasn't confrontational either. I was just curious enough to shoot the breeze with him about comics.
 
This new mecha comic by a Disney cartoonist came out. It was story-timed on 4chan. Despite the okay art it's lame and gay.
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Ohaaaaa? Famry Force?! Sugoi sugoi. @Benzo Samurai rook aadds!

Disney seems to be branching out into manga too. They just announced a manga based on a mobile game (?)

Anyone else like the 2000s run of Secret Six? The irony that they're all supposed to be unlikeable C-list losers yet actually turn out to be sympathetic is great. Bane and Catman in particular get great development. Jeanette is really fun. I wish she was in the current DC Comics era. There is a printing error in the omnibus however as they have the Birds of Prey run before the first Secret Six run, creating a continuity error specifically regarding Knockout.
 
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Arthur Morgan said:
Pushing trades allowed people to read stories they might have missed, and he hired some solid people during his tenure as EIC. The problem was he was too hands off at the start and too hands on once he got comfortable. He never found the right balance for being the Editor in Chief where he could guide the company without forcing it into dumb ideas that were more in line with what he wanted the characters to be, not what would see books, which eventually led to the current Marvel with creators who are telling stories they want people to like instead of what people actually like. And he gave Bendis WAY too much freedom.
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He also open the gates for progressives to write awful shit. He is part of the reason why comics are shit now.
 
Imperial? Another crossover? And they are making Star Lord/Nova a thing? Fucking why? Where is Gamora?
And of course the two faggots (the magic fag and the green fag) are there front and center.

Just.....just get Invisible Woman and Phoenix to combine their powers to blow everyone up.
 
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This new mecha comic by a Disney cartoonist came out. It was story-timed on 4chan. Despite the okay art it's lame and gay.
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"This book has it all."
-ND Stevenson (Nimona)

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Matt Braly

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Lin's art is pretty good considering that he's working in the Shitty Young Adult Graphic Novel genre. It seems like that hybrid of Cal Arts and Anime that's very popular when you need to shit out a 200 page book about Starfire's fat goth daughter or the middle school adventures of Poison Ivy. But, you know, with an actual grasp of the fundamentals of comic book art.

Its just a shame he's working in the slice of the industry dominated by pedophiles and trannies.
 
I've been reading the Fantastic Four from the beginning on and off for the past year or so. Currently I'm a few issues past the Galactus Trilogy. Also read the Strange Tales issues featuring Johnny and (later) Ben. The FF takes a while to finally find its footing and become consistently good. For the first year or so, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby are obviously unsure of what they want the book to be -- if it should be an adventure book or a more regular crime fighting book. They eventually land on making the series a mixture of the two, though much more in favor of the adventure side.

I'd say the book doesn't get consistently good until #36, which introduces the Frightful Four. Not that the villain group is anything special but it's by this point that Lee & Kirby start to use more long form storytelling, begin to make better use of continuity / past stories, and the characterization of the Fantastic Four has largely solidified. The end of the Galactus Trilogy (#50) is when the series starts to really feel like a Marvel book, with Johnny going off to college thus introducing a consistent supporting cast and subplots, an on-going plot thread of Reed trying to figure out ways to be better prepared for threats like Galactus (leading to him finding out about the Negative Zone and eventually Annihilus), and an on-going subplot of the Inhumans being trapped.

Unfortunately, the Strange Tales stories for Johnny & Ben are consistently mediocre but luckily they don't last long and each story is only about 12 pages (the other half of the book being dedicated to Doctor Strange). I didn't really hate the stories, they're usually goofy and dumb but kinda fun. Reading people's thoughts about Strange Tales elsewhere, though, and you'd think the stories gave people cancer with how much seething hatred they get. Speaking of that, the more I read comic discussions the more I think of the midwit meme.
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How did DC manage to hold an event made strictly of evil Batmen, and zero were hot?
Batman is already partway into the villain* aesthetic, they could have made atleast a single cool gothy evil guy, instead we got shitpile, robot and Judge Death ripoff+others I can't be bothered to remember.

*you know, the girl media villain, where they do neglible amount of evil, but are Dark and Cool
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I impulsively bought the last few issues of GL, GLC and Aquaman the other day.

Nothing bad story wise but nothing must read though neat that Aquaman is teaming up with Captain Nemo.

But it made me realize that Jermany Adams isn't very good with supporting casts because they are all heroes. There really isn't any civilian cast members.

It also doesn't feel like a lot is going on in GL. I think I would like the books better if they were cheaper
 
In obscure titles I came across a while back, here's one from the early 2000s, that lasted for five issues. From Bold Faced Comics, it was
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The premise was that when Elvis Presley met with Nixon in the White House in 1970 and was issued an honorary federal agent badge, it was a cover for a real meeting. Weary of the absurdities of his fame and eager to use his many talents, Elvis worked with the US government to develop a secret undercover group of agents trained in espionage, in Elvis' image, Individuals were trained and sent out into the world's communities to live ordinary lives until called upon by the King of Rock and Roll himself to serve their country. On August 16, 1977 Elvis Presley left public life for good, but that was a cover story. Now, a network of "E-men" have grown under the cover of being Elvis impersonators, still answering to the man who trained them. It's an anthology series, and the first issues deal with one of these agents, Del. A plumber by trade, he gets the call from the King one day and takes on a mission to break into a prison and retrieve microfilm from an inmate's false tooth.

It would have been easy for the writer/artist Neil R King to rely only on lazy comedy violence and become little more than a novelty with some cheap Elvis-referential material but it isn't. The first two issues deal with Del being a well-rounded man with a happy everyday life who nonetheless loves his secret work, and is willing to give up everything, his day job, the woman he loves, and everything else for the cause and the man who molded him into being a rock and roll secret agent.
 
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