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Looks like shitlibs have raised the limit on allowable theft in California. When they effectively legalized shoplifting, criminals were given license to steal up to $950 worth of goods:
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To the greedy Democrats who rule over the erstwhile Golden State, $950 is chump change. Unless police show up to arrest Gavin Newsom soon, we can assume the cutoff has risen to at least $7 billion:
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California allowing chains like Walgreens to be looted out of the state pales in comparison.


Why federal taxpayers should have to finance California ballot initiatives is left unexplained.
That was Proposition 47, that was years ago. In 2024, voters passed Proposition 36, repealing much of that law and imposing harsher sentences on crime.
PROP. 36

ALLOWS FELONY CHARGES AND INCREASES SENTENCES FOR CERTAIN DRUG AND THEFT CRIMES. INITIATIVE STATUTE.​

SUMMARY​

Put on the Ballot by Petition Signatures​


Allows felony charges for possessing certain drugs and for thefts under $950, if defendant has two prior drug or theft convictions. Fiscal Impact: State criminal justice costs likely ranging from several tens of millions of dollars to the low hundreds of millions of dollars annually. Local criminal justice costs likely in the tens of millions of dollars annually. Supporters: Crime Victims United of California; California District Attorneys Association; Family Business Association of California Opponents: Diana Becton, District Attorney Contra Costa County; Crime Survivors for Safety and Justice
https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/36/
In the same election, they refused to ban slavery as punishment for criminals.
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Of course, the problem is getting the ruling class to cooperate:

Newsom slammed for ignoring voters and leaving out funding for Prop 36 in budget

Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA) is being criticized for not including new funding in his budget for an anti-crime ballot measure that he opposed but was overwhelmingly passed by voters last year.

The state's attorney general broke with the governor last week, saying he believes Proposition 36, which increases penalties for repeated retail theft and fentanyl dealers, should be funded. It also mandates drug treatment for certain nonviolent drug offenders.

"The people of the state have spoken loud and clear," state Attorney General Rob Bonta told KCRA 3 at a fentanyl-related news conference last week in Sacramento. "And so, I think getting funding for a full implementation is critical."

Bonta added that despite the "difficult budget time," he believed "the will of the people should be delivered."

His comments came after Newsom left out funding for the crime initiative in his revised state spending plan. However, Newsom's budget includes extra funds for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation in anticipation of more people being imprisoned because of Proposition 36.

Sacramento County Sheriff Jim Cooper said it was time for the legislature and Newsom to "step up and fund it."

"If someone is addicted and needs treatment, we've got to make sure they get treatment, but the funding has to be there," he said. "The budget is tight; budgets are a priority. Priority for the voters, priority for us in law enforcement."

Newsom announced in May that California went from having a small surplus in January to being $12 billion in the red less than six months later, which he largely blamed on President Donald Trump's tariffs, instability in the stock market, and the Los Angeles wildfires. Newsom said California had to scale back on healthcare for illegal immigrants to help balance the budget, as well as cut back on other programs, such as one that gave prospective jurors $100 a day instead of $15 for participating in civic service.

While Newsom may be using California's budget woes as a cover for not funding Proposition 36, he has a history of not listening to the will of voters.

In 2012 and 2016, Californians rejected ballot measures to eliminate the death penalty. In 2016, they actually voted to expedite executions, but Newsom, who became governor in 2019, ignored their demands and instituted a moratorium on capital punishment.

Proposition 36 was no different.

The measure, which passed with 68.4% of the vote and the support of all 58 California counties, was seen as a major win for tough-on-crime advocates. Despite its passing, Newsom has shown no hurry in implementing it.

“To call it a mandate is an understatement,” Greg Totten, chief executive officer of the California District Attorneys Association, which sponsored the initiative, told the Los Angeles Times. “It isn’t a red or blue issue ... It’s what’s compassionate and what’s right and what the public expects us to do.”

Proposition 36 supporters, which include major retail industry players such as Walmart and Home Depot, have argued that tougher consequences are the only way to close existing loopholes that have made it easier for shoplifters and drug pushers to skirt the law.

There was an explosion in retail theft across the state, which caused stores to raise prices, lock up items, and, in multiple cases, close shop. Proposition 36 increases penalties for smash-and-grab crimes when three or more people act together to commit theft. It also allows prosecutors to file felony charges if the person caught has two or more prior theft convictions.

Newsom, along with some of the state's Democratic leaders and human rights groups, has argued that Proposition 36 is too expensive, offers false hope, and isn't a real fix.

According to the state Legislative Analyst’s Office, the ballot measure would increase state criminal justice costs “likely ranging from several tens of millions of dollars to the low hundreds of millions of dollars each year.”

Critics have also said it would disproportionately imprison poor people and those with substance abuse problems rather than target ringleaders who take advantage of disenfranchised groups and hire them to steal goods or sell drugs.

“We don’t need to go back to the broken policies of the last century,” Newsom said. “Mass incarceration has been proven ineffective and is not the answer.”

Newsom tried to sink Proposition 36 by offering an alternative ballot measure, but abandoned the effort after failing to get the support of Democratic lawmakers.

The California legislature ultimately passed 13 anti-theft bills that Newsom and Democrats hoped would appease voters and get them to vote no on Proposition 36, but that did not happen.

While voters were on board with Proposition 36, the problem is that it lacks a funding mechanism, which has been left up to state lawmakers and the governor to hammer out.

As it currently stands, Proposition 36 won’t work without funding, said Graham Knaus, chief executive officer of the California State Association of Counties.

“We believe strongly that if it’s not properly funded, it’s going to fail,” Knaus told the Los Angeles Times. “Proposition 36 requires increased capacity for mental health and substance abuse treatment. And until that’s in place, there’s not really a way to make the sentencing work.”
"Spend billions on a rail system and not lay a single track? No big deal, we'll get some federal funding!"
"Spend money to enforce the law, like voters wanted? Impossible!"

Remember how in the LA fires thread how people pointed out that voters voted multiple times to expand reservoirs and hire more firefighters, only for state legislation to ignore them? Same principle applies.
 
These people really do live in a fairy tale where THEY are the resistance fighters, saving the impoverished minority by moving them in the secret underground railroads, but instead of persecuted families and sickly women/children, it's convicted rapists/pedophiles and gang members with history of spousal abuse, riddled from head to do with tattoos that show they've factually murdered other people...

How do niggers like this get into such positions, It's just so impressive what boot licking will get you these days, also, lol, lmaoing at the fact that it's always the same on the streets, fat men and old women who you just know are there for brownie points.
 
He comes across sad and disappointed to me. He gave Elon a chance, genuinely found the spaceX shit cool, gave him a job in the government to show off his strengths, invited him to watch WWE with him (a genuine hobby for Trump, something he truly enjoys), kept an open door for him to hang out whenever he wanted, accepted his eccentricities, hung out with Elons son, allowed Elon to hang out with his son, and really made Elon a part of his family knowing that Elons relationship with his own family was fucked and he could use a surrogate and to feel belonging.

I don't think they were best friends or anything but I think Trump had a growing fondness for him. I think he genuinely enjoyed hanging out with him and is genuinely disappointed in how Elon is acting. The classic "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed" when you fall short of expectations. Even more fitting because Elon acted like such a child over disagreements and nitpicking.

He could have disagreed in private, stated publicly he has some issues with the BBB but kept it respectful, decided to agree to disagree and respect the strategy of the president of the United States. He had a million different options that would have been decent.

He chose utter selfishness and personal attacks on a public platform instead. That is disappointing.

As a side note I saw this tweet and had to do a double take because I thought I was still on KF and the tweet was going to end with "total fake news death". Who on the Whitehouse team is writing these fucking tweets?

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I mean, if I were in his shoes, I would have completely cut all ties with Elon. He's proven to be an more unstable than 80s Chernobyl. First the "jeets should replace dumb whites" stuff, then this.
 
A few 'non-profits" in Asheville NC are posting the EXACT LOCATION of ICE agents on Facebook every single day.

Not only that, but they are literally sending "scouts" out with cameras to check on "suspicious looking" vehicles that could potentially be ICE.

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If Bibi wants to salvage Israel's reputation.

Tell Trump which are the bad kikes.
 
American Chestnuts aren't my speciality (and even if they were, I'd deny it since it would basically dox me), but the biggest issue I've seen is that wild survivors that aren't die are juvinile saplings. The largest ones (remaining) are found supposedly in the rural backwoods where people don't go and Chestnuts were never the dominant tree. Aside from some outside of the native range of course.
There are a couple of stands in the deep backwoods of mature trees. Their locations are kept secret so they don't talk abotu them in detail, but that's where they prefer to get the donor genetic material for the frankentrees. They are too isolated for the canker to get them. But they would be mature and harvestable.
 
In LA, police in riot gear have just stormed protestors and made at least one arrest. Protestors scatter as loud bangs and less than lethal used for crowd control.

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And here I was thinking we'd never get more riotcams and Summer of Love 2.0 because of the anemic Boomer nature of the anti-Trump rallies a couple months ago. Now all the black bloc Antifas are back for my viewing pleasure!

My favorite part of that video (besides the guy with the cardboard shield getting faceplanted) is when they yell at the cops and call them cowards...and also yell get back inside. So they're cowards for facing you? And yelling "THIS IS A PEACEFUL PROTEST!" at the same time they’re flinging bottles and bricks.
 
Interesting how a mayor directly defy orders from the federal government doesn't qualify as the infamous "threat to our democracy" leftists never shut the fuck up about.
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Didn't that nigger burn down her own city because of nigger incompetence and grifting? Maybe your dumbass policies are what is making the city unsafe.

Newsom said California had to scale back on healthcare for illegal immigrants to help balance the budget,
Fuck Newsom so fucking hard. God forbid we have to stop spending money support illegals and imprisoning criminals.

This faggot thinks he's some sort of political god, ignoring when even his own faggot party tells him to fuck off and actually to slow the descent of the state into a complete 3rd-world dystopia.
 
He comes across sad and disappointed to me. He gave Elon a chance, genuinely found the spaceX shit cool, gave him a job in the government to show off his strengths, invited him to watch WWE with him (a genuine hobby for Trump, something he truly enjoys), kept an open door for him to hang out whenever he wanted, accepted his eccentricities, hung out with Elons son, allowed Elon to hang out with his son, and really made Elon a part of his family knowing that Elons relationship with his own family was fucked and he could use a surrogate and to feel belonging.

I don't think they were best friends or anything but I think Trump had a growing fondness for him. I think he genuinely enjoyed hanging out with him and is genuinely disappointed in how Elon is acting. The classic "I'm not mad I'm just disappointed" when you fall short of expectations. Even more fitting because Elon acted like such a child over disagreements and nitpicking.

He could have disagreed in private, stated publicly he has some issues with the BBB but kept it respectful, decided to agree to disagree and respect the strategy of the president of the United States. He had a million different options that would have been decent.

He chose utter selfishness and personal attacks on a public platform instead. That is disappointing.

As a side note I saw this tweet and had to do a double take because I thought I was still on KF and the tweet was going to end with "total fake news death". Who on the Whitehouse team is writing these fucking tweets?

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I don't understand the outrage. If you follow the link, the Axios article itself says he's facing criminal charges right in the headline.
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Elm and Chestnut starting dying out in the early 1900s.
I really appreciate this post. I actually learnt something I had no idea about here. Kudos

Growing up I lived in an apartment with "Oregon Pine"/Douglas Fir flooring and doors. The person who built our the old neighborhood (Isidore William Schlesinger) did so in the 30s. He wanted the place to look and feel like New York, so he encouraged developers to make flats in the style of New York apartments, including by using American materials. I haven't lived there in years.
 
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Remember how in the LA fires thread how people pointed out that voters voted multiple times to expand reservoirs and hire more firefighters, only for state legislation to ignore them? Same principle applies.

Instead of voting for retards, then voting on referendums to order the retards to govern well, why don't they just not vote for retards?
 
A few 'non-profits" in Asheville NC are posting the EXACT LOCATION of ICE agents on Facebook every single day.

Not only that, but they are literally sending "scouts" out with cameras to check on "suspicious looking" vehicles that could potentially be ICE.

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My hope is that one of these idiots accidentally flags some gangbanger or raghead, and the resulting protest gets drive-by'd or truck of peace'd because of it. Bonus points if we get high quality livestreamed aerial footage of the attack.
 

Well for all you always-politically-principled MAGAs, it's good to see DOGE still going strong in its fight against government waste even with the current totally legit for real fight.

Wait...what does the US biometric ID system have to do with wasteful spending????? And why is Palantir working with the IRS? There can't be any alternative plan here could there be???? No, no, no, everything is as it seems, there's no alternative plan here in the background.

BUT TRUST THE PLAN, PATRIOT.

Archived link: https://archive.ph/jUzcS
 
I resent that. Desi niggas nowadays don't bother assimilating because they have schmuck family overseas who did the hard work of assimilating for them. I should know, I'm one of the schmucks who assimilated instead of waiting in my dad's ballsack until 201X and then emigrating to get born here, speak nothing but Hindi/Urdu in America, get free stuff, and no one calling me Hajji or Osama throughout my school years. I can't speak for others, but I will say that within my narrow South Asian focus, there's a real rift between people who've actually put in their time for decades to acclimate vs. people who come here thanks to the assistance family provides, get free stuff, and act like a big shot because 1 USD here is like fucking 80 INR or 150 PKR or whatever the conversion rate is nowadays.

You think I'm exaggerating here, but it boils my blood when I see yet another pendu in Amreeka who's in my age range in my neighbourhood yet they speak absolutely no fucking English, and I gotta subsist on my tenuous mother tongue to tell them "hey asshole, can you stop being such an obnoxiously loud faggot while I'm waiting for the next bus?"
One of my American friends is the child of Bengali immigrants and he has told me similar things. There seems to be a lot of resentment between 2nd generation immigrants who are the children of parents who made a big effort to assimilate them into the culture vs first generation* immigrants who came on over for a free ride and just don't give a fuck. I have read that this dynamic has existed in America for centuries. Irish immigrants who came the country before the potato famine despised the post famine wave of immigrants for pretty much the same reasons you described.

Edit: The difference here, I suppose is that back then the culture at large agreed with the old Irish and it was not politically incorrect to demand that the new Irish get with the program.
 
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I really appreciate this post. I actually learnt something I had no idea about here. Kudos

Growing up I lived in an apartment with "Oregon Pine"/Douglas Fir flooring and doors. The person who built our the old neighborhood (Isidore William Schlesinger) did so in the 30s. He wanted the place to look and feel like New York, so he encouraged developers to make flats in the style of New York apartments, including by using American materials. I haven't lived there in years.
I should add that White Pine is garbage wood but its extra garbage in modern times because of how it is raised and harvested. Other pines produce much better timber, but only when raised correctly.

A lot of the "softwoods" are double trash now because the trees aren't allowed to fully mature and they are encouraged to grow too fast. This means overly large growth rings and that negatively affects strength. This is why pine from the nordic regions is usually of better quality, the cold winters retard growth and create a denser internal structure. Government subsidies make the investment less risky so they will hold off the extra decade or so to harvest more mature trees.
 
DJT regulars thought it was an echo chamber 2 years ago

Damn you mean the TDS suffers' containment thread as acknowledged by Null himself low-key?

The thread that was full of niggers practically writing gay fanfiction around Trump on the daily?

The same group of retards who would constantly come in here and flood this thread, but the moment it was done to them the thread got locked down?

The same retards who kept harping on stories that already fell apart such as the 34 "charges" and RussiaGate?

The same ones who showed what they really thought in the TES thread?

Oh yeah they're such great moral arbiters:tomgirl:
 
I should add that White Pine is garbage wood but its extra garbage in modern times because of how it is raised and harvested. Other pines produce much better timber, but only when raised correctly.

A lot of the "softwoods" are double trash now because the trees aren't allowed to fully mature and they are encouraged to grow too fast. This means overly large growth rings and that negatively affects strength. This is why pine from the nordic regions is usually of better quality, the cold winters retard growth and create a denser internal structure. Government subsidies make the investment less risky so they will hold off the extra decade or so to harvest more mature trees.
While it pains me to talk shit about the old house, I must admit that softwood is really not a great material for floors. It looks gorgeous but it really is easy to damage.
 
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