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For a guy who says a lot of bold things, Trump really does pussy down when even an ounce of pressure is against him. Like come on, dude, you want to ravage this country to make it great? You go all the damn way and not say you will. That's how you change shit.

If anything, this is what will actually make him lose supporters. Because his supporters are with him because they believed he's the guy to do things and get them done. If he continues saying things and not doing them and only just to make people cry through words and pussy-footing, his voterbase will turn on him and go out to find someone else who will do what he couldn't.
I don't actually have an issue with how he's handling it for now because he's letting looting and rioting fatigue accumulate in the public, while giving protection to ICE so they can continue the raids, and he's making Newsom look bad, especially with the news the original raids were related to cartel money laundering investigations.

A lot of this seems very similar to the slow burn of the deportations of the "Maryland dad" where they slowly let out a trickle of information that he is here illegally, oh and he's ms-13, oh and he's a wifebeater, oh and multiple people confirmed he's ms-13, oh and - you know what? - on top of everything else he's a human trafficker and we're gonna charge him on that while we're at it.
All while the news media and dems at large double and tripled down and locked themselves into defending him.

No problems with that! But he's not being an effective communicator here.

What he should be saying if he wants to do that is saying over and over again: The national guard is only there to protect the federal building where deportees are being detained, and to protect ICE agents and collaborating agencies from violent people trying to interrupt their duty.

This is allowed under title x, and it is the only thing they're doing. It is Newsoms state and he's handling the riot. And by the way did you know the rioters are throwing rocks and molotovs at LAPD? Oh and did you know they're burning cars? Oh and by the way did you know they're looting? Did you know Newsom is handling it? Did you know he's allowing this? He could call in the national guard for himself and end all this. Did you know he's not? Oh and another person stole a car. Oh and another store got looted. Oh and another cop got injured.

Meanwhile balancing that with (as they have been doing): And the ICE raids will continue. More people will be deported. Here's who we got today. Here's what they did. Here's the type of scum they are. Here is who Newsom and Bass are protecting. Here's another one. Another pedophile. Another murderer. Another human trafficker. Another fent dealer. Another violent criminal.

And then when the case for the riots being paid constructions has congealed (they seem to be pursuing this now), and the riot and looter and illegal alien fatigue has peaked, and when Newsom looks more and more ineffectual - then say "OK we have proof this is an insurrection from foreign adversaries we're taking over"

My only complaint is the mixed messaging. They need to make sure the messaging is clear. The marines and natties are there to protect ICE. ICE is catching violent criminals and removing them from the community. Feds will prosecute fed charges (assaulting the popo), everything else is on Newsom, Newsom is a failure, these protests are actually riots, Newsom is protecting violent criminals and pedophiles, Newsom is letting looters burn the city, Newsom could stop this at any time, and he isn't because he doesn't give a fuck about you or your city or your stores or your state.
 
Ill bet you there is more illegal immigrants in the cenrtal valley than texas but they wont ever touch them beacuse they giant farm companys would raise holy hell.
I'll be honest, I feel like your points meandering a bit, but what I'm gathering is that you are mad that you feel like there is more that could be done. And that may be valid. I'm of the opinion that high profile, direct strikes on illegals like this is good, because we want to put the fear of god into them so they self deport. Part of the goal is to dismantle all these structures that do make being illegal tolerable. Doesn't matter if you're getting paid under the table if every property owner is shit terrified of ICE obliterating their ass for renting to an illegal, and so forth. Right now, we are seeing ICE actually actioning reports of illegals, including crashing business locations. Maybe there's even higher headcount targets they could hit, but frankly its such a target rich environment that they've no shortage of places or internal reasons to pick one over another.

But don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. Regardless of whether you think its the best strategy or not to do what they're doing, we are seeing them actively round up hundreds of the fucks, not playing rules lawyer and calling people who are turned away "Deportations" to make the numbers look good. Improvement is progress, and we should continue to demand improvement, not get complacent, but to demand improvement immediately be perfection will leave you achieving nothing.
 
Hi there. I'm still going through my notifications because I keep getting caught up to threads I follow, rate me late, autistic, mad on the internet, or whatever else. I specifically take exception to the below

Hmmm 🤔 most desi immigrants post 2000 are usually turbo leftist retards who bleat about "muh racism" while they babble in Hindi/Urdu (the WORST)/Bengali (the second worst)/Tamil/Telugu/Maliyam/ whatever else constantly and dress in ethnic costume while their out of control children run around screaming and also babbling in 3rd worlder.

Leave my Mallu brothers out of this. I don't give a crap about the Indo-Aryan speakers you listed like the Hindu/Urdu/Bengali-speaking peoples, nor do I care about the Tamil/Telugu speakers. The Malayalam speakers though?! They're actually Christians. Not even that bullshit post-colonial Christianity that the Brits, French, and Portuguese spread either; they were Christians for a similar if not greater stretch of time than the Ethiopians and the Armenians.

The Malabar coast, now the modern-day Indian state of Kerala, was a known hub for Jewish traders during the life and times of Jesus Christ. The voyages of Saint Thomas the Apostle very likely happened in the first century AD using these trade routes that were long established in Roman times. Even if we attribute the voyages of Saint Thomas the Apostle to the realm of mere myth and legend, Syriac Christians from Edessa in the Sassanian Empire evangelised the Malabar Coast around the 3rd or 4th century AD. Either way, that group of Christians were known for millennia as the "Saint Thomas Christians."

The Saint Thomas Christians haven't been a singular, unified Christian minority since the 1500s thanks to Portuguese meddling in the Malabar Coast leading to countless schisms happening, but Christianity still remains a strong presence in Kerala to this day. These people are Dravidian speakers who utilise Aramaic, the language of the so-called Lord of Lords and King of Kings, in their liturgies (their Holy Qurbanas). For anyone who cares, this is how the demographics line up for the three most significant churches in Kerala:
  • Syro-Malabar Catholic Church (Eastern Syriac Rite, split from the Nestorian Church of the East, by far the oldest extant rite of Christianity in practice today no matter how Latinised the rite became in later centuries)

  • Syriac Orthodox Church (Western Syriac Rite, I'm including both the Malankara and Jacobites since they're both directly subservient to the Miaphysite Patriarch of Antioch running the Syriac Orthodox Church, they split from the Nestorians who entered communion with the Catholic Church after re-establishing contact with the Syriac patriarch in the 1600s)

  • Mar Thoma Syrian Church (Western Syriac Rite, split from the Jacobites/Malankara due to the Brits introducing Reformation ideas, they're among the few extant Eastern Protestant groups. They retain the Holy Qurbana and extensive usage of Aramaic in their liturgies, but they have a 66-book Bible and are in communion with the Anglicans)
There are also scattered Evangelical, Pentecostal, Latin Rite Catholics, and garden variety Anglicans mixed in with the Saint Thomas Christians nowadays. There's also still an extant church in communion with the Assyrian Church of the East in Iraq, but it's near extinction (i.e. less than 50,000 adherents). Kerala, to this day, is also among the cleanest, most educated, and safest provinces in all of modern-day India. I'll gladly jump in on talking shit about jeets; I'm South Asian and I know the India Menace thread speaks a lot of truths I try to repress. Having said that: be educated with your hatred of the Jeet menace. If there were ever a group of Indians that deserve our respect, it would undoubtedly be the Saint Thomas Christians of Kerala.

I say all of this as an Indo-Iranian speaker with absolutely no ties to anything due south of the Deccan Plateau where Dravidian speakers overtake the Indo-Aryan speakers.
 
We say one thing and do another, we claim to be the land of the free but have the most number of incarcerate people of ANY nation, Our statue says bring me your tempest tossed and our immigration policy says go home.

A house cannot stand divided.
Yeah, but did you know that if is the middle word in life? Nice platitudes, stupid.
 
100% of Indians and Brazilians re non white, why is there total COMBINED incarcerated people amount lower than ours, not per captia, not by some fucked measurement. 1.5 billion inidians and Brazilians have less criminals than the USA, how do you square that?
brazil is at 400 per 100k, pretty close to americas 500 per 100k.

india has laughably low numbers because they have laughably incompetent and corrupt law enforcement (staffed by indians)
 
the biggest problem with the second Iraq war is that the Bush admin blacklisted anyone who was in the Ba'ath party from entering the new government without considering that everyone in the old government had to be part of the Ba'ath party. It just left Iraq with the jihadists Sadaam supressed
That wasn't an accident or error. See also Libya, Arab Spring, etc. Turning the region "jihadist" is American policy.

To what end(s)?

Creating a "refugee crisis" that floods the West with brownoids is on the list. We know whose idea that is.
 
100% of Indians and Brazilians re non white, why is there total COMBINED incarcerated people amount lower than ours, not per captia, not by some fucked measurement. 1.5 billion inidians and Brazilians have less criminals than the USA, how do you square that?
The USA has NIGGERS. Most of the people in jail are NIGGERS. How do you not understand that?
If we didn't have them our jails would be basically empty.
 
Man this shit is sobering, post 9/11 we really gave into the police state HARD, you have to REALLY borrow IQ points from the back of cereal boxes to think that there are MORE "biologically inclined criminals" whatever that means in our 300 million than that north of a billion and a half in India and Brazil
The difference is we actually have a police force that punishes criminal behavior, meanwhile in rural India and Brazil the police can't be bothered to enforce the law. As far as their urban centers, at least as far as Brazil is concerned, their are entire regions where the police can't go or they'll be shot and killed on site, and that is if they haven't been bought by whatever flavela shithole cartel is running that block at any given period.

If anything those numbers show that we actually try and keep criminals off the street.


man being a woman is life on easy mode in the big 25, your way more than half the educated workforce and you have a negligible chance of ever being the recipient of state sponsored violence
Because women commit less violent crime then men? No it couldn't be it must be some base unfairness it has to be!

All you post is coal.
 
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I see Tapper and CNN have learned nothing...they are not demonstrations.
Immigration is not a states rights issue.

While it is true that immigration law is not specifically laid out in the Constitution the fed's authority over immigration stems from the Constitution and is backed by SCOTUS decisions.

There is no abortion law and there never was the SCOTUS decisions regarding it were judicial black magic by activist judges.

As for Newsom being arrested...I think he is skirting a very dangerous line on a lot of fronts. He is enabling riots, obstructing justice, and I would argue guilty of fraud against the people of California but I am not a lawlologist.
 
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100% of Indians and Brazilians re non white, why is there total COMBINED incarcerated people amount lower than ours, not per captia, not by some fucked measurement. 1.5 billion inidians and Brazilians have less criminals than the USA, how do you square that?
That's because they aren't reporting all the rampant crimes that go on in these shitholes. Reported crime rate is different then the actual crime rate on the streets, if nobody reports it then it won't be added to the nations crime statistics.
And for the incarceration rate, in these shitholes they're just letting these animals run wild on the streets instead of locking them all up
 
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Rand, Elon, and Massie, are you listening? Deporting illegals is the best way to reduce the debt:
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Also, Gavin, pay for your own fire recovery instead of mooching off other states.
Isn't that the fire recovery that him and the mayor wanted to pretty much stall indefinitely with paperwork and bureaucracy and then Trump went to 1 meeting and went (paraphrasing) "this shit is all gay and retarded, let these people go to their homes and rebuild"
 
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