Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.6%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 55 12.0%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.9%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 153 33.4%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 110 24.0%

  • Total voters
    458
Well shit, someone finally woke up and decided it was time to shovel some shit out the door before he was completely blocked in by it!

The first ruling can't be seen as any kind of win for Greee, dispite technically ruling against the defence, it serves only to speed things up, at least as I see it.

The second ruling is more of a mixed bag. Despite Russ figuratively wagging his dick in the judges faces, Barlow declined to spank his pee-pee for it merely giving him a new deadline of 3 weeks to pay the fuck up.

Penalties are attached if he fails yet again and that no amount of bitching on the Bamboon's part will change the deadline, but Russ deserved a punitive sanction immediately on top of this but was tard-guarded one last (we hope) time and merely scolded him instead. Still, it is another loss for Russhole and notice that his plights do not fly with this judge.
 
The court is on their fucking knees BEGGING him to just be a good little retard and take this to trial to be determined on merits instead of technicalities. They are kissing his fucking toes, "Please just be normal, please... pleaseeeeeee????"

Jokes on them, Greer will take this charity mana from heaven as a mandate from heaven and do something even stupider. Quote me on this for when he emergency appeals this sanction to the 10th on June 30th.
 
The first ruling can't be seen as any kind of win for Greee, dispite technically ruling against the defence, it serves only to speed things up, at least as I see it.

The second ruling is more of a mixed bag. Despite Russ figuratively wagging his dick in the judges faces, Barlow declined to spank his pee-pee for it merely giving him a new deadline of 3 weeks to pay the fuck up.
I really want to be Positive Polly and think that the Judge denied the extension request because he can see the writing on the wall, and wants the motion to dismiss (relatively) ASAP. But then I look at all the TardGuard that continues to be applied and I just get black-pilled again. Meh...maybe Russ will include some more pr0n in his next filing and make me laugh.

Agree with the other sentiment though - definitely think he's obstinate enough to argue AGAIN at the end of the month and not pay because Kiwi Farm Man Bad.
 
I believe this is the first time we've seen both judges enter simultaneous ominous looking orders. If not, I think it's the first time they're in red letters. What was that movie Russhole liked so much? There Will Be something?
 
"Pay the sanctions or else, Russell"

I can live with that. My popcorn bag was getting empty
He wasn't that vague. It was pay the original sanction or pay $500 more.
I really want to be Positive Polly and think that the Judge denied the extension request because he can see the writing on the wall, and wants the motion to dismiss (relatively) ASAP.
This was a motion that clearly Hardin didn't even want granted. He already has that response drafted. I don't even need to see it to know it.
 
The duality of man.
It's worth pointing out, for those who missed it, these 2 orders came from 2 different judges.

Magistrate judge is the one who denied Hardin's extension, hinting that he wants to consider a whole lot of case-dismissing causes at once, without more delay.

District judge is the one who said "you violated the deadline twice when I told you sanctions would happen, so... have another 21 days FOR NO FUCKING REASON."

This is the duality of tard-shielding, one exhausted, the other still holding.
 
District judge is the one who said "you violated the deadline twice when I told you sanctions would happen, so... have another 21 days FOR NO FUCKING REASON."
No, he specifically said the extension was only to avoid another $500 penalty. Punitive sanctions are always done like this. They start very slowly.
 
The court is on their fucking knees BEGGING him to just be a good little retard and take this to trial to be determined on merits instead of technicalities. They are kissing his fucking toes, "Please just be normal, please... pleaseeeeeee????"
Do you think that is it?

Are they desperate to actually have this decided by substance, however lacking that might be, than it being decided by formalities and procedure?

Can some lawfag explain to me wether the 10th Circuit is less likely to overturn this if it fails due to merit?
 
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HE STILL
HASNT EVEN READ
THE FEE BREAKDOWN!

i didnt even mean to but i called it. the district judges limp wristed excuse for an order is somehow almost more insane than anything russhole has filed in the last several weeks. he probably doesnt even know or care that russhole officially lost his poorfag status.
 
No, he specifically said the extension was only to avoid another $500 penalty.
I don't see how that's any different from what I said. He got 21 days after the judge spent 4 pages saying there was no reason for whining about it.

"Pay up. Ok you didn't, pay up or there might be more sanctions... OK you didn't pay, so pay up or there WILL be more sanctions." Until the judge actually hits him with an increased amount, he let Greer off the hook, simple as. You might say giving a specific amount this time is progress, but his threats aren't very credible when they're accompanied by free extensions, when Greer didn't even ask for an extension this time.
 
So taking another birds-eye view on the open stuff...

The judge STILL has not ruled on ECF 234, Hardin's motion for sanctions from FEBRUARY on Greer's lies about witnesses (and about Hardin) which was taken under advisement at the hearing over a month ago.

The judge STILL has not ruled on ECF 299, Greer's idiotic motion for show cause which was filed over three weeks ago (timely opposed by Hardin).

The judge STILL has not ruled on ECF 313, Hardin's motion to unseal Document 1 for private viewing with a mind to prove IFP fraud when the case was originally filed almost five years ago. Greer has responded to this motion.

The judge STILL has not ruled on ECF 314, Greer's idiotic motion for a protective order against Hardin (timely opposed by Hardin).

ECF 243 was also "taken under advisement" at the hearing over a month ago, pending Greer's production of the Utah 2018 docs, which were due June 3rd, and the status update for which was due today. The docs were not produced, Greer continues to refuse to produce them, and the status update was timely filed. Case-ending sanctions were explicitly threatened by the judge in the hearing if Greer refused to put out.

No motion has yet been filed by Hardin on the "attorney's eyes only" bullshit but it was entered into the docket at ECF 321. Until he files a motion, we can't expect the judge to do anything about that, but it's in the ether.

Hardin DID file a fresh motion for sanctions, ECF 330, on Greer re: the subpoena Greer fraudulently obtained from the clerk while discovery remains stayed. Greer has timely opposed.

Greer filed a motion for "clarification" AND for modification of the discovery stay, ECF 334 (timely opposed by Hardin).

And of course, as expected, we have today's new motion for sanctions from Hardin at ECF 337 regarding Greer's fuckery in trying to get an "emergency" reschedule of the May 6 hearing and his lies to the court about that. Greer has not yet filed his official reply to that, but since it just went live today that's to be expected.

Finally, since the second extension was denied, Hardin's reply to Greer's opposition to the motion to dismiss is still due June 30th. As we've been reminded lately, discovery has been stayed until that is addressed. The motion to dismiss won't be ruled on before then. That's also Greer's new sanctions deadline, as well as Hardin's new sanctions status report deadline, like it matters.

Did I miss anything as far as items that remain open and still-to-be-ruled on?
 
"Pay up. Ok you didn't, pay up or there might be more sanctions... OK you didn't pay, so pay up or there WILL be more sanctions." Until the judge actually hits him with an increased amount, he let Greer off the hook, simple as.
Saying you're going to do a SPECIFIC thing ties you to that. People are freaking out about totally routine shit and ignoring the actual obvious advance, slow as it is.
 
> Get an original $5000 sanction reduced by 80%
> Waste time and kvetch to the court, seeking to only pay a fraction of a fraction of the original fine
> Insist you actually have the funds to pay the full REDUCED fine, but that evil Josh Moon can't have it, its for your whorehouse.
> Bitch and scream to the court about the method of payment, instead of just fucking paying
> "Gee shucks ya honah, I'm just a lil' goofball"
> Get a free 21 day extension

I want to experience, for one day, the real life Plot Armor that retards have.
Tuardguarding will continue till judge can make the case unappealable.
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Calling it now: I think Gree will be insane enough to think he can further try to argue against paying, will let this next deadline pass without paying, and will get slapped with $500 (or more) in sanctions
I expect him not to pay & the amount increase til either judge or greer moves first.
 
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