US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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BullfrogBill said:
I've actually been wondering how much of an influence Disney's Star Wars has had on leftists since those movies started coming out in 2015. It really feels to me like the leftists started seeing themselves as "Rebels" and Republicans as "Empire" after they went and saw The Force Awakens in 2015, they all think they are Andor or Ray or something. I'm not even joking either, I think Disney Star Wars is at least partially to blame for amping up leftists to start political violence all the time. The new Andor show was literally propaganda about Empire = Israel/USA vs Palestine = Rebellion, where the Rebels literally wear towels on their head and riot about being illegal immigrants on Empire planets even though that doesn't make any sense in Star Wars.

These people literally think they are Ray from Star Wars defeating Kylo Ren's Empire.
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Star Wars is a modern mythology. (Much ironically as Lucas intended). It provides a moral and imaginative vocabulary for a lot of people.

Andor in particular is basically a show about left wing revolution in tandem with liberal reformist/entryism against fascists that are treated as ruthless but also pathetic minions of the machine.

It’s not surprising that it fits in their world view.

You may laugh and say Redditor or “read a history book”-but in a way this is very normal. Most people don’t base their politics on some deep informed study of historical exigencies and minutia-they get it from myths, from morality plays, from narratives. Humans are narrative and meaning seeking creatures. Rational debate over dates and historiography is alienating and frustrating to most people.

But fiction provides a symbolic format in which ideas and moral lessons may be encoded or absorbed. That speaks to people at a primal level far more effectively than a history lecture.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
We never lost in Afganastan. We left. We also wiped out Saddam's regime and installed a puppet government. We won Iraq from a military perspective. We don't lose wars. You're a faggot. You're a faggot for bringing this up when illigeals are invading our country and the military are being used to deal with them for good for once.
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Honestly we could've stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan forever if we really wanted, the issue is with with morale and public opinion. The real problem with the U.S when it comes to wars is not our martial capabilities but rather why we fight them. Afghanistan should've been a quick and easy thing to kill Osama bin Laden and punish the Taliban for harboring him while Iraq shouldn't have even been fought as Saddam provided a bulwark against both Salafi jihadism and Iranian influence.
 
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StudMccool said:
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Can you tell me what the difference between "you're" and "your" is?

I'm not saying that you're wrong because of grammar mistakes; I actually haven't read your posts. I'm responding in this way because I'm registering your obstinate unwillingness to spell properly as a form of aesthetic warfare.

We don't have to tolerate your ugliness. It degrades us corporately. That's part of the theme of this immigration issue.
 
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StudMccool said:
wish someone would engage with the fact that in nazi germany WITH ALL THE POWERS OF THE STATE they got 6 million jews with 9.5 million starting in Europe in 1939

there is over 12 million illegal immigrants in the USA

Do I need to spell it our from there? Do you think hitler was just "lollygagging" or they were really bad and making the trains run efficiently? Or is it possible finding and moving a race of people who dont wanna be found and moved is kinda giant fuck off task?

Thats the rub is for all your rehotric and how easy it seems on paper we have actual documented historical evidence of exactly how many people a nation can get with the FULL BACKING OF THE NATION and we are very far removed from that level of top down unity and we are trying to move more people in a shorter span of time WITHOUT THE TRAINS
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These are fundamentally different situations.

A: The population has increased dramatically since then, there's more people to remove but proportionately even more people to do the removing. The US population is triple what it was in 1930. Add to that the USA has always been more populated than Germany. Germany's population in 1930 was 60 million, 6 million is 10% of that. 12 million is about 3% of the current US population.
B: Many of the jews living in germany had been there for generations and had nowhere else to go. These people are primarily here because of the gibs and ease of life, as well as the fact that many feel emboldened because they face no resistance they think it's fun to come here and conquer shit without being told no. A symbolic display of force will get many to leave on their own accord, as will cutting of the gibs. We're already seeing instances of this. LA is the heart and soul of the problem.
C: You have an odd obsession with trains. You realize cars and busses are a thing now right? They barely were in fuel starved 1930s Germany, not as a means of mass transportation.
D: It's easier to prove somebody is illegal than to prove they're jewish.
E: 1930s germany didn't have the internet, computers, census', social security numbers or anywhere near the technology and tracking capabilities we have today.
F: The bipartisan support for this is far stronger than one side is willing to let on. Time will prove me right no this.
 
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Breadbassket said:
From yesterday:
CNN's Brian Stelter says you shouldn't believe the riot videos on social media because they could be "hours old."

"You might see a video from 2 days ago!"

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Funny how quickly the legacy media wants you to question everything, unless put out by them, of course. Then, it's "trust the experts™".
 
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StudMccool said:
Does being similar in incarceration rate to turkey, Russia and Brazil not give you any pause or can you also explain away their numbers aswell?
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No, because unlike those countries, we have due process. We have more or less rational justice system that tries to perform its due diligence, get things right, and be impartial.

If someone is incarcerated in a US prison, you can generally be confident that they belong there. There are exceptions, of course, but they aren't being put in there on a whim.
 
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