US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Current members of the US Supreme Court
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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[0713]

US cops are lucky that the rioters are too stupid to know how to use a sling. Slings can seriously fuck someone up

Or lasers.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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Really downplaying it.

This actually needs to be addressed directly.

The USA is a Republic. It was not a big secret to the voting citizens what a reelection of Trump meant. Trump was probably the least duplicitous President to be elected in living memory. Everyone knew what his policy positions were, and what it would mean if he got into power. We voted for him anyway. Along with a majority in both houses of Congress for his party too it should be added.

Now comes the time to implement the will of the citizenry that has decided by their franchise. The Federal Government is the Sovereign of the American Nation. It has the authority, given too it by the people who elected it, to enforce its will. You do not have a right to impede that will by causing havoc, throwing bricks at its agents, and generally impeding the government.

This is...what is the word? Oh yes! An "Insurrection". Something the left very happily bandied about what January 6th was. And too a certain extent they were correct.
But some will have said then, and will say now, the people have a "Right" to revolt against the Government. This is actually not true. You don't have the "Right" to do that at all. You do have the "Option" of doing it. And if you win, good for you. Its not treason. If you lose however, (as the Jan 6 people did), you get thrown in a hole never to see daylight again.

This is all to say simply this. As Sovreign of the American nation, the Federal Government has to defend the Nation, and its ability to enforce its will. If you are actively opposing the will of the Sovereign, by force, which is what a riot is, then you are engaging in rebellion. When you are engaging in rebellion while waving foreign flags, you just add a whole new layer of animus to the problem. This is no longer just a question about how fast we should deport the beaners. This is a question of who is in charge here. Is it the American Government, or these overly educated foot soldiers of foreign governments and NGO's?

 

[StudMccool]

Malcolm X had a positive experience on his hajj (I re-read his letters, it's been a while)

you should read his autobiography, shit fucked me up as a forum posting white man. He went from full on saying white devil every page to legit come to god moment where he realized its all a big ass scheme and he has been playing into the hands of the elite. They gunned him down cause he was making inroads with Dr. Kings movement and white "peace" movements. Civil rights movement and stop Vietnam were going on at the same time but never unified, makes ya thunk hu. After Malcom X and Dr. King stopped playing ball they got replaced AKA murdered by the CIA then the black panther movement took over in the public mind.

Also he gives advice on how to never have your house burglarized from his time as a burglar, a point I find very funny and useful.

 

[Ishtar]

Conservatives don't make fun of it because they don't understand it. They make fun of it because they understand its retarded.

People made this same argument with super hero comics. Superheroes are not mythology. Star wars is not mythology. Its just corporate branding. Superman and Luke Skywalker are the equivalent of Tucan Sam or the Cinnamon Cinnaman. They're mascots designed to sell children shit. Just because those children experience a failure to launch and refuse to let go of their childhood comforts doesnt give the mascots any societal importance.

Luke Skywalker/Superman/Harry Potter/Catniss all have no purpose or meaning other than to be a mask people with no identity wear when they feel existential dread. THAT is why they keep getting brought up by political retards.

Alexander the great slept with a copy of the Iliad dude.

You can say that’s “real literature” but that just means it has some sort of elite legitimacy in a given society.

And yes super heroes are absolutely modern mythology. They represent idealized archetypes and larger than life figures often representing or expressing the moral or political ideals(or negations thereof) of a given society.

Clark Kent is the American Everyman, Superman is the(post WW2) American ethos. -and Lex Luther is the archetypal envious villain that compensates by money and cunning.

 

[W@rui]

>US Rep. McIver indicted on federal charges in skirmish at New Jersey immigration center

 

[Levitcus prime24]

Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula leader Sa'ad Bin Atef Al-Awlaki has just called for every able-bodied Muslim in the United States to commit acts of terror and attempt to assassinate President Trump and his cabinet.

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While not related to this clip, here is a fitting video that was posted in the replies to it.

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Is this just an elaborate suicide attempt, like death by cop type shit.

 

[my penis is on fire]

Ah, so it’s just a reference to WEF globoglowies. Do you think there’s a realistic chance that this plan of theirs comes to fruition any time soon/within my lifetime, or is there no reason to panic?

Whatever their original plan was fell through after COVID didn't stick around and after they realized AI isn't enough to let them upload their consciousnesses and live forever. Now their plan is just turning the world into South Africa

 

[Clobber3]

They're shooting.

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https://x.com/voteharrisout/status/1932536836867440797

Holy shit is this legit? This is really happening?

 

[Irene and 22 others]

More cities are joining in. It's only going to get worse, or it'll die but the next one will be completely nutty and be really bad.

Thought not all of those cities will clamp down on this shit, some of them will. Red state governors aren't going to sit on their hands and watch their cities be swallowed up in this chaos even if they're largely blue hellholes. In a week there will be those cities where order was restored quickly and those that are still on fire and rioting. The optics will look worse for Democrats as more and more of the arrested in these protests are reviewed to be immigrants or criminals as their mayors and governors continue to do nothing. Meanwhile there will be cities where the highways are unblocked, the stores not looted, and the Waymo taxis not piles of flaming slag and public sentiment will further turn against the illegals and the people who enable and abet them.

Trump just needs to keep the federal buildings protected and let the rest of the city go to as much shit as the local politicians will allow. While everyone there is busy and distracted protesting, keep up the pressure and order additional ICE raids so that when the dust finally settles all of the protests were for naught. Let the protestors know that all they have to show for it is a burned out and destroyed city. Let them know that the costs of having to deploy the guard or other military units to maintain order will be coming straight from their federal funding, which they should be be grateful isn't being cut entirely.

We're getting what we voted for and I think it's only fair that the Democrats get some of what they voted for as well, even though it may not be what they thought they were voting for.

 

[0713]

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the Lolberts are being Lolberts again.
link

Can someone explain the porcupine symbology to me, please?
What's the intended message?

 

[BullfrogBill]

Alexander the great slept with a copy of the Iliad dude.

You can say that’s “real literature” but that just means it has some sort of elite legitimacy in a given society.

And yes super heroes are absolutely modern mythology. They represent idealized archetypes and larger than life figures often representing or expressing the moral or political ideals(or negations thereof) of a given society.

Clark Kent is the American Everyman, Superman is the(post WW2) American ethos. -and Lex Luther is the archetypal envious villain that compensates by money and cunning.

This belongs in a separate debate thread on the differences between mythology and propaganda. Superheroes were originally invented as WW2 propaganda.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

Not to derail, but decided to create a thread specifically for the riots: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ice-riots-2025-la-beyond.221541/

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Conservatives don't make fun of it because they don't understand it. They make fun of it because they understand its retarded.

And this is why Conservatives lost the culture war.

The stories humanity tells each other is one of the most important things that we do, if you can not understand that fact then you have ceded one of the most important aspects of society to your enemies.

 

[Conan]

Holy shit is this legit? This is really happening?

You moron, you retard. California made guns illegal so what you're seeing is a cheapfake made to trick you into believing California is a lawless third world shithole.

 

[MugolEx]

I hope they chimp out and burn the cities. They'll just turn even more normies against them.

This was the same shit people said in 2020. O LOOK THEY'RE BURNING DOWN THEIR OWN CITIES! HUR HUR HURRRR. NORMIES ARE SO GOING TO TURN ON THEM NOW. And look what happened. Fucking nothing. And then they won because the normies voted for Biden. Say what you will about the "fortified" election, but a lot of people voted against Trump because he looked so weak during those riots. Trump had so much going for him but lost all his momentum the moment when you realize he has far more justification this time around to start cracking skulls in as Mexican flags were flown in the riots and Mexican leaders start blatantly outlining their plans to take over US land. If an actual invasion (as Trump and many of Republicans put it) doesn't get him gear, what fucking will?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Not to derail, but decided to create a thread specifically for the riots: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ice-riots-2025-la-beyond.221541/

I second the motion. This is the US Politics thread, but its been possesed by the Happenings. What is Happening now belongs in Happenings.

 

[0713]

Not to derail, but decided to create a thread specifically for the riots: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ice-riots-2025-la-beyond.221541/

Thanks. Now I have to keep up with two threads instead of only one, for breaking news. Like it has always been with the Political General threads.

 

[WelperHelper99]

This actually needs to be addressed directly.

The USA is a Republic. It was not a big secret to the voting citizens what a reelection of Trump meant. Trump was probably the least duplicitous President to be elected in living memory. Everyone knew what his policy positions were, and what it would mean if he got into power. We voted for him anyway. Along with a majority in both houses of Congress for his party too it should be added.

Now comes the time to implement the will of the citizenry that has decided by their franchise. The Federal Government is the Sovereign of the American Nation. It has the authority, given too it by the people who elected it, to enforce its will. You do not have a right to impede that will by causing havoc, throwing bricks at its agents, and generally impeding the government.

This is...what is the word? Oh yes! An "Insurrection". Something the left very happily bandied about what January 6th was. And too a certain extent they were correct.
But some will have said then, and will say now, the people have a "Right" to revolt against the Government. This is actually not true. You don't have the "Right" to do that at all. You do have the "Option" of doing it. And if you win, good for you. Its not treason. If you lose however, (as the Jan 6 people did), you get thrown in a hole never to see daylight again.

This is all to say simply this. As Sovreign of the American nation, the Federal Government has to defend the Nation, and its ability to enforce its will. If you are actively opposing the will of the Sovereign, by force, which is what a riot is, then you are engaging in rebellion. When you are engaging in rebellion while waving foreign flags, you just add a whole new layer of animus to the problem. This is no longer just a question about of fast we should deport the beaners. This is a question of who is in charge here. Is it the American Government, or these overly educated foot soldiers of foreign governments and NGO's?

The Left does undersand this. They do not accept it however. They don't want to. It would mean admitting that all that work, all that scheming and treachery for over 100 years has been for fucking nothing. The people have rejected the book of Marx. They have rejected the sodomite flag. They have rejected neoliberalism. They just want their fucking country back and for the trains TO RUN ON TIME.

No more should we have to watch our cities burn. No more should we have to see women get raped by browns. No more should we be treated as an economic zone with people that aren't special. We are Americans Dammnit. We are the best nation on the planet with the best people. If they disagree so much, well, they can be tried for treason. All of them. Let the communists lie in the bed they made.

 

[Basic Blond Boy]

I second the motion. This is the US Politics thread, but its been possesed by the Happenings. What is Happening now belongs in Happenings.

It is pretty clear this will be at least till the end of the week if not go on longer, so probably better to have it as its own thing.

 

[Zoot]

Alexander the great slept with a copy of the Iliad dude.

You can say that’s “real literature” but that just means it has some sort of elite legitimacy in a given society.

And yes super heroes are absolutely modern mythology. They represent idealized archetypes and larger than life figures often representing or expressing the moral or political ideals(or negations thereof) of a given society.
Clark Kent is the American Everyman, Superman is the(post WW2) American ethos. -and Lex Luther is the archetypal envious villain that compensates by money and cunning.

the true modern folk mythology is the wojak, wifejak, pepe, soyjak, chad, chud, etc meme shit. carries the archetypes of the culture