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Should be a wild four years.

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Deadly force is not called for or necessary
See, this clears up the confusion immediately. If you just said from the beginning that you don't think deadly force should be used, you wouldn't have had to find 3 different boogeymen to defer to. I would've just rated your post negatively and moved on if you didn't spend 5 posts dancing around what your opinion actually is on the matter like a pussy.
 
Won't someone think of the poor journalists! You get what you deserve smear merchants.

With reporters shot and roughed up, advocates question whether those covering protests are targets
Associated Press (archive.ph)
By David Bauder
2025-06-10 22:08:14GMT
More than two dozen journalists have been injured or roughed up while covering protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles, leading press freedom groups to question whether law enforcement has been deliberately targeting reporters on the story.

Journalists have been pelted with rubber bullets or pepper spray, including an Australian TV reporter struck while doing a live shot and a New York Post reporter left with a giant welt on his forehead after taking a direct hit. A CNN crew was briefly detained then released on Monday night.

The advocacy group Reporters Without Borders said there have been at least 31 attacks on journalists — 27 from law enforcement — since the demonstrations started.

The Committee to Protect Journalists, the First Amendment Coalition and Freedom of the Press Foundation were among the groups to express concern to Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem. In a letter, they said “federal officers appear to have deliberately targeted journalists who were doing nothing more than their job covering the news.”

Noem hasn’t replied, David Loy, legal director of the First Amendment Coalition, said Tuesday. A Noem spokesperson didn’t have an immediate comment for The Associated Press.
Experts say the apparent hostility toward journalists, or a disregard for their role and safety, became particularly apparent during demonstrations following the death of George Floyd in 2020. A troubling indication of a decline in press freedom is the rapid escalation of threats journalists face in the United States, said Bruce Shapiro, executive director of the Dart Center for Journalism and Trauma at Columbia University.

While most journalists covering wars receive training and safety equipment, it is apparent that many — particularly freelancers — don’t have similar protection when assigned to events like the Los Angeles demonstrations, he said.

“It’s not like covering a war zone,” Shapiro said. “But there are some very specific skills and strategies that people need to employ. The First Amendment is only as strong as the safety of the journalists covering these events.”

On Sunday, Australian journalist Lauren Tomasi was shot in the leg by a rubber bullet while reporting live, with a microphone in her hand, from protests in downtown Los Angeles. Widely circulated video shows her crying out in pain and clutching her lower leg as she and her camera operator quickly move away from a police line. She told 9News later that she was safe and unharmed.

New York Post photographer Toby Canham was overlooking the 101 freeway when he was hit. He spent Monday in the hospital with whiplash and neck pain, and left with a red mark on his forehead. Shortly before he was shot, he said he saw someone throwing a water bottle with liquid at authorities.

“I completely understand being in the position where you could get injured,” Canham said. “But at the same time, there was no justification for even aiming the rifle at me and pulling the trigger, so I’m a bit pissed off about that, to be honest.”

Ben Camacho, a reporter at the local news website The Southlander, reported being shot twice. “Unsure of what hit me both times but they hit like a sledgehammer and without immediate warning,” he wrote online. “Elbow is wrapped with gauze and knee is weak.”

Photojournalist Nick Stern was standing near some people waving a Mexican flags when he was shot in the thigh. He later had emergency surgery. “I thought it was a live round because of the sheer intensity of the pain,” he told the AP. “Then I passed out from the pain.”

Lexis Olivier-Ray of L.A. Taco, an alternative independent media platform, thought he was safely positioned with some television crews but instead had pepper balls shot at him. Some reporters may have taken less care: one posted a clip from film he shot about 10 yards (9.1 meters) from a police officer with a rifle pointed at him.

Not all of the incidents involved law enforcement. AP photographer Jae Hong was kicked and hit with sticks by protesters on Monday, his protective gear enabling him to escape injury. A Los Angeles TV reporter and her crew were forced away by demonstrators, one loudly yelling, “get out of here.”

CNN aired video of its correspondent, Jason Carroll, and his crew with their hands behind their backs being led away from a protest by officers. They were later released.

In many past conflicts, journalists had a measure of protection because opposing sides wanted them to record their side of the stories, Shapiro said. Now many journalists are seen as superfluous by people who have other ways of delivering their messages, or a target by those who want to spread fear, he said.

It illustrates the importance of proper training and protection, he said. For reporters in the middle of the story now, they should plan carefully — being aware of exit routes and safe zones, working in tandem with others and in constant communication with their newsrooms.

“We need everyone from major news outlets to television to citizen journalists,” he said. “We need them on the street. But we need them to be safe.”
 
Federal law enforcement were not allowed to enforce the law.
Negligence is the only explanation I can think of as to why the Governor, Mayor, and city council members have allowed this to happen.


The authority that Trump invoked in activating the Guard—10 U.S.C. 12406—provides that “the president may call into federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary to repel the invasion, suppress the rebellion, or execute those laws.” Trump’s order is confined to the “temporary” protection of ICE and other federal personnel, as they enforce federal law, and to the protection of federal property in places where protests against federal enforcement have occurred or are likely to occur. Another clause of Section 10 U.S.C. 12406 holds that “orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States.” Whether a president can activate the Guard for such a limited supporting-only function without going through a governor, without invoking further legal authority, and without violating the Posse Comitatus Act is an untested question that a court will rule on after a hearing this Thursday.

Tuesday’s mobilization of the Marines to protect ICE agents is equally complex, but even more politically fraught. This latest step in the escalating feud over law and order in California risks looking excessive, notwithstanding that violence and vandalism have been spreading to other cities both within and outside of the state.

The Trump National Guard mobilization brought into relief an important distinction. There is violence, and then there is violence, in the words of the June 7 memorandum, intended to “inhibit the execution of the laws.” Both eat away at social order, but the latter is a death knell for civilization. That is why, when progressive prosecutors in California and elsewhere decriminalize resisting arrest, they are violating their most sacred oath of office.

To the disgust of the media, Trump said after the mobilization: “No one will spit on our police and our military; when they spit, we will hit.” There may be more eloquent ways to express this determination, but for many Americans, Trump’s unapologetic defense of the law this weekend represented liberation from a poisonous set of lies.
 
Dr. Phil speaks with Trump border czar Tom Homan.

The garment warehouse and storefront in LA that ICE searched on Friday is a money-laundering operation for cartels. ICE’s presence in these places is what kicked off this chaos—and the Democrats are too stupid and lawless to realize they’re defending the cartel.

 
lol there's not going to be a civil war over this. Neither NYC nor LA have their own standing armies. At best one could argue that Trump violated The Posse Comitatus Act or political norms, but a president pushing against legal boundaries is hardly noteworthy.

Also immigration enforcement is one of the few pillars of Trump's platform that has broad bipartisan support. You won't find many Americans willing to join le heckin valid rebel army for illegals.
does it count as a civil war if Mexico "helps" LA defend itself (while installing friendly leadership)?
 
The main weapon the Cathedral has is weaponized empathy and captured institutional control, which they are completely destroying at the moment. Why? I don't understand
I think a big part is the people in control now are much dumber and was less competent than the people who built it

It’s like the Obama -> Biden -> Harris -> Walz progression just over more time
 
Wisdom of wearing a porous, Walgreens mask to filter out tear gas and pouring hydrogen peroxide directly into wounds aside, this is just going to become the uniform for people who want to rob/loot with minimal suspicion when they're approaching victims.
Pictured: Your average paramedic who approached his victim who was actually armed.
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After technical difficulties Governor Newsom announced and triples down, placing full blame on President Donald Trump for the escalating anti-immigration riots. Newsom accuses Trump of choosing escalation and dragging a military net over Los Angeles in response to the unrest.
Governor Newsom: "Friends, are quite literally, disappearing."
>"Nooooo, how dare you activate the National Guard before I can!?!?"
Gavin is just jelly because his NG was very quick and ready to rally under Trump, without his consent even.
He can't accept the fact he's the ugly girl of the two.
 
We see his past self in that movie which is a different origin than the comic one of him being a normal guy, and he's pretty normal looking but blue (though that could be intended flashback lighting because every other appearance of his skin is normal flesh color). But yeah he was originally normal in that too, just a member of an ancient civilization that used biotech instead of rocks and metal and shit.
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He's supposed to be a scientist but he looks like the lost fifth pillar man. (ironically from what I remember jojo part 2 was came out around that time too.)
Huh, i was born in the early 90s so i missed out on most of the GI joe craze, but i did have that movie on VHS and watched it dozens of times. Absolute kino especially the opening fight around the statue of liberty.

I'm not saying they don't go infantry, because plenty of them do; but a majority of LA / Mexican Marines I knew/saw were all logistic/supply/admin. They enlist, get trained, then get stationed at Pendleton or elsewhere so they can be back on the block with their boys every weekend. Sure they enlist, some because it's a path to a greencard, but I assure you, they keep their racial solidarity, as much as people enjoy quoting Gunny Hartman from Full Metal Jacket.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's quite likely the ones waving those flags have never been in the military and if they were they were air force, and not flying a plane.
 
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