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jfc how fucking raped are you in the mind that you can't see the difference between Saddam/IAEA going "No nukes in Iraq" and Iran/IAEA going "Yes we have nuclear material that is enriched far beyond anything needed for civilian use"

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completely demoralized to the point where you're against Islamic radicals who want to destroy the united states from getting nuclear weapons because somehow it's bad
The only reason Iran gives a shit about the USA is because we've been Israel's rabid Rottweiler for decades, overthrew their elected officials in the 50s, installed a kleptocratic retard until the 1970s, and constantly fucked with them at the behest of both you and oil companies for decades.

Let them get a fucking bomb. You have a passet of 'em for yourself to ensure that actual nation-states don't go durka-durka on you like the Palestinians did. I could fucking care less about the rest of the Middle East returning the favor of MAD. You want fuck-fuck games, it comes out of your pocketbook and your young men, not ours, you duplicitous dual-citizenship fuck.
 
I care about the world not having Nukes get thrown around. Iran is a rogue agent and cannot be allowed to have one. That isnt religion, that is real politik.
Nukes were used twice in human history on a foreign power. Nowadays they're just a force multiplier used for political pressure rather than actual military purposes. The last time someone considered using one in earnest it was one of the factors in the US it was a contributing factor in his dismissal. Nobody wants to open the lid on the mass utilisation of nuclear weapons because people are aware of how much of a shitshow it could be and would make that state a pariah not just in the eyes of its enemies but its allies too. If you insist on American involvement, arms and bombings, maybe, but boots on the ground would just be a colossal fuck up.
 
Also, isn't her husband that washed up Aussie Pirates of the Carribean actor? (An actor with a well documented alcohol abuse problem. Wait, that's probably redundant since I already pointed out he's an Aussie). Should Katy be pissing off President Trump? Like, theoretically he could ship her lush hubby back to Upsidedown Kangarooland.
How dare you.

He's a washed up British actor. Get it right!
 
C'mon, guys. We were all getting along watching commies get beat up. Don't let the Iran stuff ruin the good vibes.
If nothing happens the Iran talk will simmer down for a while but if there is any kind of action that escalates into something more expect it to become a big topic of discussion.
 
Remember: if they try to get you to die for Israel, you can literally shit your pants to get out of it. If that doesn't work, breaking/shooting a limb would also work.
Just eat a lot of pizza and fail your PT tests.
The war is lost if they start doing what Ukraine does.
 
pretending like Iran doesnt have a history of giving advanced technology to their proxies doesnt make the threat go away. Pakistan isn't run by insane mullahs who come from a tradition of suicidal attacks and who worship the idea of dying in jihad.


jfc how fucking raped are you in the mind that you can't see the difference between Saddam/IAEA going "No nukes in Iraq" and Iran/IAEA going "Yes we have nuclear material that is enriched far beyond anything needed for civilian use"

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I'm completely fine with going into Iran as long as it's with the explicit commitment that we do it no holds barred, and we do not care whatsoever how big of a mess we leave behind. Do what we want as fast and efficiently as possible, then leave immediately.

The thing is given the current world climate (that is the one we've had for 60 years) I just don't see how that's remotely possible so i'm generally against it.

Edit: Although another factor is that I know Iran's populace is largely turning away from islam and hates their government, so it would be sad to see civilian casualties. I'm just saying in general if we're going to do wars, do them for real.
 
C'mon, guys. We were all getting along watching commies get beat up. Don't let the Iran stuff ruin the good vibes.
You aren't wrong, it's a rift that needs to be fixed at some point. I just hope cooler heads prevail over a strike on Iran. Now isn't the time for that, and I don't really care about the strike, I care about what happens AFTER the strike.
 
You aren't wrong, it's a rift that needs to be fixed at some point. I just hope cooler heads prevail over a strike on Iran. Now isn't the time for that, and I don't really care about the strike, I care about what happens AFTER the strike.
Probably Saudi and Israel occupy it with US support. I don't think Trump wants a Middle East war on his record, but I'm more optimistic than you.
 
This reminds me of the time CTR chimped out in the Shiloh Hendrix thread by saying how mean it was for a white woman to protect her property and say nigger to a nigger.
Gee for an American who supposedly hates browns and loves whites he sure was quick to say that black people should never face consequences and white people should never fight back.

Of course he got rocked so hard he had to take a break from the thread and returned to apologize to his betters.

We should count ourselves blessed to see it happen again.
If they do have a nuke then it's going to solve several problems in an instant no more Palestine, no more Israel. Forever sand wars canceled.
If I were Iran and just made my first nuke ever but want it to actually make it's way to it's target in this day and age I'd stick it onto a supersonic missile and there's only one target in range for that.
 
While I'm against it, there's clearly also an overreaction to it that comes from the lack of a viable alternative. Gooners > scolds, rhetorically. You have to have something that makes anime gooners look impotent by comparison.

Zoomers hate anime booba because they're impotent and jealously guard their right to be. The dislike should come from pity and disgust.
the only zoomers that don't like anime titties are either church kids or feminazis, and zoomers are actually the least religious generation so I'm not sure where the "zoomers are puritans" thing came from. Is it because of X screwing up the generational optics of zoomers?
 
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