US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

  • 🔧 Actively working on site again.
General Trump Banner.png

Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Targeted advertising is really good:
View attachment 7490559
response to riots, by ethnicity
spic:
>VIVA LA RAZA VIVA MEXICO
>NOOOO DONT DEPORT ME TO MEXICO AAAAAH
>*sets fire to random electric vehicle*

white:
>WHY AREN'T THEY BEING MOWED DOWN BY MACHINE GUNS ALREADY?!
>MORE TROOPS! MORE WEAPONS! MARTIAL LAW! TMD NOW NOW NOW!
*shitposts impotently on the internet*

black:
>haha time for free shoes and tvs again
>police best stay outta my way muhfugga
*robs the corner store for a pack of newports*

jew:
>legal troubles, goyim? deportation orders looming? criminal charges for rioting and looting?
>attorneys rosenberg and shekelstein are ready to take care of business for a modest fee!
>*rubs hands*
 
Why the fuck do they all think this is some kind of vicious "own" against conservatives? They're literally admitting to modern slavery. There's no way to sugarcoat that statement. "Now that we can't get this back-breaking labor done illegally by illegals for $5/hr -- well below the federal minimum wage, subjecting them to actual slave wages -- you might have to do it. Also lolno, we're not doing it ourselves either."

Fucking. Idiots.

Joke's on those urbanoid bugmen, I already harvest my own crops in the hot sun. Pasty-white soft hands could never.

I'm also sure the $5.50 an hour is a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe in the late 1980s. When I was growing up, I helped pick crops as a summer job in high school for $11 an hour and a meal from the farmer's wife. I also worked with a lot of Hispanic guys who would come over on work visas and work in the fields during harvest season, enjoy their beer and food at the end of their shifts, and then fucked off back to their home country to live relatively well until they came back next year to do it again.

The problem is over the years, they've come to just cut off that last step and just overstay their visas, since enforcement in this country has been lax for at least a decade.
 
This is retarded advice.
No, it isn't.

Prosecutors throughout the US have successfully argued (and won convictions in self-defense cases) that because a person didn't mag dump into their attacker, they didn't fear for their lives. e.g. "you weren't really terrified he was going to kill you; you just wanted to stop him, and you were so calm and collected you were able to stop yourself from mag dumping, ergo you weren't so terrified that you had no conscious control of your actions."

Always mag dump. Not just because it helps your legal defense later, but also because if you're going to shoot some asshole for trying to kill you, you want to make sure the fucker is dead. Partly to prevent him testifying against you later, but mostly to prevent him fucking killing you if your first couple of shots don't kill him first.
 
No, it isn't.

Prosecutors throughout the US have successfully argued (and won convictions in self-defense cases) that because a person didn't mag dump into their attacker, they didn't fear for their lives. e.g. "you weren't really terrified he was going to kill you; you just wanted to stop him, and you were so calm and collected you were able to stop yourself from mag dumping, ergo you weren't so terrified that you had no conscious control of your actions."

Always mag dump. Not just because it helps your legal defense later, but also because if you're going to shoot some asshole for trying to kill you, you want to make sure the fucker is dead. Partly to prevent him testifying against you later, but mostly to prevent him fucking killing you if your first couple of shots don't kill him first.
only downside to magdumping is if there's another enemy then you're kinda screwed with an empty mag
 
No, it isn't.

Prosecutors throughout the US have successfully argued (and won convictions in self-defense cases) that because a person didn't mag dump into their attacker, they didn't fear for their lives. e.g. "you weren't really terrified he was going to kill you; you just wanted to stop him, and you were so calm and collected you were able to stop yourself from mag dumping, ergo you weren't so terrified that you had no conscious control of your actions."

Always mag dump. Not just because it helps your legal defense later, but also because if you're going to shoot some asshole for trying to kill you, you want to make sure the fucker is dead. Partly to prevent him testifying against you later, but mostly to prevent him fucking killing you if your first couple of shots don't kill him first.
This is absolutely retarded advice. I suggest you listen or read some books by self defense attorneys on the matter.

Edit: It's 4am and I really don't care to argue, you'll most likely never end up in a self defense situation regardless, but.... Do you think it would've helped or hurt Rittenhouses case had he magdumped into any of his attackers?
 
Last edited:
This.

And remember, Leftists don't KNOW anything. They actually don't BELIEVE anything.

They just parrot the talking points. They exist and are fed media, so that's what they repeat without understanding any of it.

Video from cringe but it does show exactly how leftists think and operate.
View attachment 7491629
What an ugly whore
 
That nigger hit the back of his head real hard.
That's how that other guy died a few days ago.
The white bro seemed to have hit his head too. If not, close to it.
That was a dangerous move for both of them.
I completely agree with the sentiment but it's not worth it to go to jail for accidentally killing a nigger like that, or seriously hurting yourself.
There are much better targets if you're feeling like ruining your life for justice.
If every white guy spear tackled one nigger to death America would be an ethnostate yesterday.
 
> on a random podcast
>"Omg you're all, like, soooooooooooo misogynistic~"
>"Uh... okay. How do you define misogyny?"
>immediately starts acting like she's being held hostage by ISIS where if she speaks out of turn or raises her voice she'll be raped and/or beheaded by her captor
>literally begging to go home and silently weeping

Screenshot 2025-03-11 152139.webp

Nigga wtf
 
Last edited:
Why the fuck do they all think this is some kind of vicious "own" against conservatives? They're literally admitting to modern slavery. There's no way to sugarcoat that statement. "Now that we can't get this back-breaking labor done illegally by illegals for $5/hr -- well below the federal minimum wage, subjecting them to actual slave wages -- you might have to do it. Also lolno, we're not doing it ourselves either."

Fucking. Idiots.
Leftists think they are still fighting boomercon style Republicans.
 
Based legal Beaners are backing Trump's war on illegals. Currently 300 comments in reddit thread on a very progressive and pro-riot subreddit r/LosAngeles.
The vast majority are saying that the MAGA Beaners are backing the crackdown. Those comments are heavily upvoted.

Redditors' only explanation is that everyone who doesn't think like a progressive redditor is an idiot.
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.15.51.webp
Link
Archive
A few examples
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.17.05.webpScreenshot 2025-06-12 12.16.53.webpScreenshot 2025-06-12 12.16.37.webp
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.16.10.webp
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.18.45.webp
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.18.01.webpScreenshot 2025-06-12 12.18.30.webp
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.20.39.webp
Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.21.22.webp
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.16.27.webp
    Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.16.27.webp
    42.9 KB · Views: 15
  • Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.15.51.webp
    Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.15.51.webp
    85.4 KB · Views: 15
  • Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.17.23.webp
    Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.17.23.webp
    13.7 KB · Views: 14
  • Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.18.59.webp
    Screenshot 2025-06-12 12.18.59.webp
    10.4 KB · Views: 22
Why the fuck do they all think this is some kind of vicious "own" against conservatives? They're literally admitting to modern slavery. There's no way to sugarcoat that statement. "Now that we can't get this back-breaking labor done illegally by illegals for $5/hr -- well below the federal minimum wage, subjecting them to actual slave wages -- you might have to do it. Also lolno, we're not doing it ourselves either."

Fucking. Idiots.

Kind of an aside, but I suspect the current arrangement might actually be cheaper than 19th century (and prior) slavery.

Yes, they're paid 5 dollars an hour, but the responsibility of feeding/clothing/housing/providing medical care to the illegal immigrant has been pushed onto the taxpayer, and there's no upfront cost of purchasing them. There's also no liability on the part of whoever employs them because they aren't considered the employer's property. If a slave were to damage someone else's property or commit a crime that would require a fine, I imagine the slave owner would ultimately be responsible for the penalty (the way I might be liable if my dog bites a child or tears up someone's yard).

So really it just seems like the most corporatized form of slavery that could exist without allowing companies to advertise on specific Juans and Robertos like it's fucking NASCAR.
 
Trump is not going to crack down on the riots because it would 1. give Democrats the fuel to say he's literally Hitler and 2. interrupt his enemies when they're making a mistake. I disagree with this, because like everyone here I want to see blood, but the reality of Trump is often far away from what Trumptards imagine online. He's very much just a politician. He sends troops to be able to say he did and look tough to Republicans, but then they don't actually do anything because he doesn't want to look like a dictator. The riots will continue and local police/National Guard will do nothing but corral them.
That sounds more like Trump letting his enemies set the pace and the narrative. Destroying an American city while waving a foreign flag and firing on US law enforcement is an invasion. Not treating as such is dereliction of duty, and a major goal of the left with Trump is to paint him as a weak leader. Crushing the protests by any means necessary will show Trump's base that he can take care of business and the protesters will have to decide whether they really want to fight the US government. What will the left do in response, call Trump a fascist even more than they already do?
 
That sounds more like Trump letting his enemies set the pace and the narrative. Destroying an American city while waving a foreign flag and firing on US law enforcement is an invasion. Not treating as such is dereliction of duty, and a major goal of the left with Trump is to paint him as a weak leader. Crushing the protests by any means necessary will show Trump's base that he can take care of business and the protesters will have to decide whether they really want to fight the US government. What will the left do in response, call Trump a fascist even more than they already do?
Trump should just let commiefornia burn at this point. Let the people see how liberals are and what there true goals are.
 
How the Protest Movement Lost Social Media
New York Magazine (archive.ph)
By John Herrman
2025-06-12 06:00:49GMT

Progressive activists were once synonymous with places like Twitter. The L.A. demonstrations show how much has changed.
sm01.webp
Photo-Illustration: Intelligencer; Photo: Getty Images

Since the early 2010s, social media has been identified with protesters. In the early days of platforms like Twitter, this was intuitive. Protest movements want attention, but mainstream media outlets were often slow or reluctant to give it to them, unless, of course, things got out of hand, at which point they’d get plenty. Social media, by contrast, was an effective tool for activists to organize and communicate with one another and directly with the public, providing counternarratives to the ones laid out in popular coverage. The opportunistic embrace of progressive causes by social media executives cemented the perception: Twitter was with the activists.

Eventually, as more politicians, public figures, and members of the media congregated on social media, it also became a way for activists to command and guide elite attention, intervening directly in conversations from which they’d previously been excluded, nudging and sometimes forcing public discourse, increasingly enclosed within a few big platforms, in new directions. This sort of dynamic — social media used to organize protests that then produced encouraging imagery to further spread on social media — helped movements like Black Lives Matter spread across the country.

As most leftist activists would have told you at the time, this was always going to be a temporary arrangement. It contained clear dangers from the start; as much as Twitter and even Facebook leaned into their roles in “democratizing” the media, they were never truly building tools for activists, but rather surveillance networks for advertisers. And despite the social-media visibility of some left-wing movements, the ability to circumvent the media and to translate on-the-ground action into on-the-screen shareable content was valuable to activists across the political spectrum, including on the far right. (To whatever extent the term has meaning, January 6th was a social media protest, too.)

Still, the events of this week — and the ways they’ve played out on social platforms — are a jarring reminder of how much, in a few short years, social media’s relationship with activism has changed. From The New York Times:
As protests in Los Angeles against the Trump administration stretched into their fifth day on Tuesday, social media creators have at times outnumbered the traditional press corps at rallies and have played an outsize role in sharing media about what has happened on the ground.

Outfitted with their own makeshift press helmets and vests, many creators — many of whom lean conservative — have livestreamed entire days of coverage and posted to social platforms like X and streaming sites like Twitch and YouTube. During some of the week’s most violent moments, Trump officials like Stephen Miller and billionaires like Elon Musk chose to amplify what the creators published, causing the posts to go viral and feeding the narrative that the violence has been out of control.

Contrast this with typical coverage from the Times in 2020, which described streamers as providing “lengthy alternatives to what some said were out-of-context video clips from mainstream news outlets” during racial protests. The paper declared a new era for progressive activism, inseparable from its medium:
Leveraging technology that was unavailable to earlier generations, the activists of today have a digital playbook. Often, it begins with an injustice captured on video and posted to social media. Demonstrations are hastily arranged, hashtags are created and before long, thousands have joined the cause.

At the core is an egalitarian spirit, a belief that everyone has a voice, and that everyone’s voice matters.

If you squint, you can make out versions of the same story: people bypassing the mainstream media to their own ends; the importance of social media in determining public perceptions of protest movements. There’s also an unmistakable tone-shift from gently awestruck condescension to gently horrified condescension (disclosure: I was a reporter at the Times from 2016-2022, where I sometimes wrote about this subject). In a far more significant sense, though, something bigger has clearly changed. This week’s protests have been visible on social media, but their portrayals are fragmented, strange, and to people on the ground, often absurdly divorced from reality. If social media used to work for activists, or at least could, now it’s more effectively used against them.

sm02.webp
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:2buz4gf5sew3rdwzbxsvcd4s/post/3lrbv6iwlus2v (archive.ph)

factor in the 2011 Egyptian Revolution — a story embraced by the company’s leadership — the story of social media’s role in Egypt’s politics since has mostly been one of suppression, surveillance, and harassment. An American version of this story has been taking shape for a while. The most significant factor isn’t really about tech — it’s that the current administration is proudly hostile to protest, and has cited social media posts as thin pretexts for no-process arrests and deportations. An administration that both routinely threatens activists with imprisonment, deportation, or worse is more than enough reason for activists to regroup in spaces where privacy can be maintained, not just traded for attention.

sm03.webp

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1595250835096621057 (archive.ph)

But social media really has been transformed, too, in ways both explicitly ideological and technical. Twitter, the platform people are most often referring to when they talk about these things, is owned by Elon Musk, who bought the platform with the explicit goal of disempowering its “woke” users, and has more than accomplished his goal. Meta is still run by former BLM supporter Mark Zuckerberg, who more recently embraced Trump and pivoted to military contracting. TikTok, which is legally banned, is still online because the Trump administration promised not to enforce the law under vague and suggestive circumstances. Before its legal ban, TikTok’s rise set in motion industry trends that would alter social media’s relationship to activism in material ways. Meta, X, and Google reoriented their platforms around TikTok-style algorithmic video feeds, which relied less on users following one another and more on black-box per-user recommendations.

For the platforms, this meant more engagement. For activists, it meant that there were no longer coherent public conversations in which to intervene, against which to push back, or to join in any meaningful sense at all. Platforms that were once useful for understanding and following the news became venues for pure spectacular consumption. In some ways this was novel and strange, with hundreds of millions of people consuming individualized feeds determined by automated recommendations. In other ways, it was familiar, since it was a reversion to pre-social-media power dynamics. The platforms were no longer social, in any meaningful sense of the word, but rather centralized and exercising constant (algorithmic) editorial discretion. At least as much as the mainstream media that’s now been twice replaced, TikTokified social media rewards decontextualized spectacle. This can be useful for activists to bring attention, generally, to their causes — at least some of the large swing in support for Palestinians can surely be credited to the endless stream of horrific videos from Gaza, which are plenty powerful without further context, and don’t require the authority of a trusted follow. More often, though, the lack of a common chronological feed — the crude social media proxy for a “shared reality,” I guess — produces disorientation, uncertainty, and the ability to retreat completely into ideological safety, pure fantasy, or both.

sm04.webp
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:qnd2lqn52ernybdfonq4mc43/post/3lrdqi2cs7k2q (archive.ph)

No reasonable progressive activist would have suggested, at any point, that these massive companies were genuine friends or allies . But now, the social networks — and the broader tech industry that has enabled more than a decade of American mass movements — are more clearly identified with, or even as, the enemy. This reality has been missing from a lot of the commentary on LA. Much of it has tried to separate the viral images of burning Waymos, which have dominated coverage from both mainstream media and right-wing influencers, from the protesters’ broader response to ICE raids and the threat of more federal troops. Brian Merchant, reporting from the ground, offers a slight corrective:
Google suspended Waymo service to downtown LA, and also in San Francisco, where solidarity protests unfolded. “Why the self-driving cars were targeted remains unknown” is a refrain I heard multiple times on TV and radio news. The reason does not seem so secret to a lot of people.

“Oh they called them up on purpose, lit ‘em on fire like that,” a cameraman shooting on the scene the next day told me. The charred husks in a neat line do seem to suggest that was the case. Other witnesses and journalists who were there shared the same story: People summoned the cars to light them on fire when they arrived. Protestors were reportedly calling them “spy cars” as they were vandalized and set ablaze, and some noted how the cars can share data with the LAPD.

The temptation to sift this out as the work of rogue anarchists or shit-stirring hangers-on is understandable, and probably largely true. But the targets of destruction aren’t always random, and it’s worth thinking about what they mean. The stakes and risks of such a protest in June of 2025 are high. If a protester is already worried that their own phone could get them arrested and prosecuted, taking now-standard precautions to lock it down and disconnect it while being careful not to take photos with identifiable faces in them, how might she see a driverless car covered in cameras and owned by Google?

sm05.webp

https://x.com/adamcurtisbroll/status/1932795867104153995 (archive.ph)

Where do things go from here? In her User Mag newsletter, Taylor Lorenz suggests that progressive disengagement from — and the right’s massive, well-funded right-wing investment in — the influencer culture of post-social media has left the platforms to Trump and his allies, but also suggests a queasy way out: “People with resources” stepping in to finance an alternative. Pro-Trump (or at least anti-protest) voices do seem to be dominating, although one consequence of a post-feed platform is that it’s harder to tell. At the very least, platforms like Instagram, TikTok, and even X have remained somewhat useful for sharing raw — and particularly shocking or exonerating — footage of physical altercations.

Meanwhile, the dozens of groups organizing under the banner of this weekend’s “No Kings” protest, scheduled to counterprogram Trump’s military parade, are trying to figure out what large-scale protest organization looks like in 2025. (Partners include federal employee unions and faith-based groups.) They’ve been able to get media coverage, and word has spread in Instagram stories and TikTok posts. Despite the open planning and explicitly nonviolent language of its organizers, the protests have already earned a National Guard deployment in Texas). They, too, acknowledge that something has changed. On its “Social” page, No Kings supplies suggested messages to supporters and invites them to share on BlueSky.
 
Based legal Beaners are backing Trump's war on illegals. Currently 300 comments in reddit thread on a very progressive and pro-riot subreddit r/LosAngeles.
The vast majority are saying that the MAGA Beaners are backing the crackdown. Those comments are heavily upvoted.

Redditors' only explanation is that everyone who doesn't think like a progressive redditor is an idiot.
View attachment 7491749
Link
Archive
A few examples
View attachment 7491742View attachment 7491744View attachment 7491745
View attachment 7491747
View attachment 7491737
View attachment 7491740View attachment 7491738
View attachment 7491735
View attachment 7491734
AND GOD BLESS EVERY ONE
9imsd5.webp
 
Back