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Should be a wild four years.

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"The President has been earnestly and completely committed to a peace process. He's given Iran every opportunity, those talks are ongoing, but he also fully recognizes the threat that Iran poses," US defense secretary Pete Hegseth said on Thursday.

AXIOS - White House envoy Steve Witkoff privately warned top Senate Republicans last week that Iran could unleash a mass casualty response if Israel bombs their nuclear facilities​


AXIOS - CENTCOM commander Gen. Erik Kurilla is expected to arrive in Israel on Saturday for talks with senior political and military officials regarding Iran​

 
I've heard a preacher go on that blame IS power.

Logic being that both ate the apple.

Adam at the apple. He blamed eve. He gave her that power
Ever ate the apple, she blamed the serpent. She gave the serpent that power.
Serpent convinced them and said "yes, and?". He KEPT that power
Excellent point, this theme is constant throughout the bible. The very final thing Christ does as being crucified is take the blame for himself when he says "forgive them, they know not what they're doing". He took all the blame because he had ultimate power. They were literally worthless children because they refuesed to take any of it, they had no power.

A lot of atheists bring up the "if god is all powerful then everything i do he made me do" thinking it's a gotcha without realizing it's actually a central theme in the bible. When people in the bible point this out to god he says it to "yes, and?". By admitting you have free will of your own, you reclaim some of that power for yourself, it's the first step to admitting that you're worthy of something, god controls it all but a small part of that control is in you.

It's a more important mechanism now than ever because it's the main way to disarm wokescolding, sjwism, and cancel culture.
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Their social power comes not from the accusation itself, but the squirming their opponent's do when accused of something that's not even wrong. When the crowd sees the accused person acting like they did something wrong, people assume they did. It's how leftists establish something normal as unacceptable, by starting out assertively to force you to agree to their frame of reference.

1: They accuse you of violating a moral norm that nobody agreed was even a moral norm. Intent doesn't matter, only percieved harm.
2: The moral frame is non-negotiable. You're not asked to explain but told you are guilty, any attempt to defend yourself is framed as further guilt.
3: You're required to confess, overexplain, and beg. Groveling is seen as a virtue and forgiveness is not garunteed.

The answer when accused of something you actually did or believe is to say "yes, and?" like the serpent did. Not because the serpent was good, it wasn't good, but it did understand this concept of owning your intent as power as did many righteous people later in the bible. Including Jesus.

-Cunt: "Look everybody! This person thinks MEN CAN'T GET PREGNANT!"
-Wrong Response: "I'm all for people transitioning as long as it's in adulthood and consensual and i'll use their pronouns and all that but biological sex is important because-"
-Correct response: "Yes, and?"

-Cunt: "WAIT you're against black lives matter?"
-Wrong Response: "Well i mean i support the movement and i totally think that george floyd didn't deserve to die but i just think some of the rhetoric the organization use-"
-Correct response: "Yes, and?"

-Cunt: "You're AGAINT the protests in LA?"
-Wrong Response: "I... i completely support the people's right to protest and i'm fine with legal immigrants but but but-"
-Correct response: "Yes, and?"

-Cunt: "Look everybody this person is a CONSERVATIVE!!!"
-Wrong Response: "I'm not one of those racist conservatives i'm honestly more like a classical liberal because when i was growing up i had some experiences that-"
-Correct response: "Yes, and?"

You guys were talking yesterday about how wojacks and pepes and memes are modern mythos and this archetype shows up everywhere:
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Don't anticipate the crowd turning against you or they will, if you imply you're doing something wrong the plebs will assume you are. Just hit the ball back to the accuser's court and see what they do next. It's good for THEM too and can be their first redpill. They're children, how are they supposed to it's allowed to stand against something if they've never seen anybody do it?

It's also important to not be too much of a dick or too aggressive about it, that is also a form of anticipating rejection just as much as groveling. The key is to not treat it as a big deal.

You'll also see this in your place at work, if you ever worked in food (especially with a lot of women) everybody has had that coworker that accuses another of doing something that really wasn't that bad, but the accused starts getting defensive.

I used to be this way and I don't really know what changed, but eventually I figured out that if you just say "hmmm? oh yes I did cut the tomatoes that way. You are correct i did do that" not even in a smug way, just factually, things go much better. Your accuser won't even know what to do, their brain never conceived a reality where that happened and they don't know what to do next.

It also works with cops. Just tell them what you're actually doing and own it and they won't get afraid. If you assume they're trying to find something you did wrong, and you fidget around, they're going to simply sense that something is wrong. A LOT of black people would be alive if they understood this concept.

Also for you young'uns out there: Doing this on dates will get you laid even by the most outspoken feminist you've ever met.

Do what you want and own who you are and you disarm the most important weapon clown world has: fear of ostracization.
 
Can someone give me a QRD on the big beautiful bill? I’m getting a sudden surge of people (Tim Dillon) talking about how bad it is (which it does sound bad) but I want to hear what some of you guys think.
  1. No taxes on tips and overtime
  2. More reqs for SNAP/Food Stamps
  3. More reqs for Medicaid
  4. No tax on Social Security
  5. Ban on States banning/limiting A.I. for 10 years
  6. More detention facilities for illegals
  7. Baby Bux
  8. "Golden Dome"

1. Self explanatory, he's been running his campaign on "no tax on tips" for awhile now. Extended it to overtime as well, meaning if you normally work 40 hours a week and put in 10 extra hours, those 10 hours will be tax free. I think this one is good.
2+3. If you receive SNAP or rely on Medicaid and you have no kids, you're going to be forced to work or have your gibs turned off. This one is going to drive niggers up a wall.
4. Someone's gotta pay for Golden Dome and it's not gonna be Boomers that for sure. Raised deduction rates to pay for Grandma's slot machine benders. Hate this one but unfortunately Boomers will get their way until death since they are still the largest voting bracket.
5. This is a big one, essentially taking off the limiters we have in place on A.I. and leaving it up entirely to Washington's discretion for a decade. States will no longer be able to dampen A.I. to do everything from protect jobs from automation to protect the privacy of their citizens. I'm not sure how to feel about this one, some people are sounding the alarm bells while others say it's a nothing burger. Time will tell.
6. 50 billion dollars to build detention facilities all throughout the US in order to process more illegals at any given time. More of this please.
7. A strange part of the bill includes starting what are essentially trust fund custodial accounts for babies born during Trump's administration. I'm not against it, it's just a bizarre one.
8. Another big one, Trump wants to build his "Golden Dome", an entire missile defense apparatus that is nation-wide, taking its name from Israel's Iron Dome. Will open the door to even more Palantir as well as military defense contractors to build the worlds most advanced and widespread missile battery system that will essentially span our entire border in all for directions and protect major metropolitan cities.
 
I've done this with real people and still get called a nazi. I cite and still get called a nazi. I do nothing and still get called a nazi. I agree and still get called a nazi
Not to be that guy, but are you sure you aren't a nazi? Maybe you should look in the mirror and see if you've turned aryan overnight.
 
All I know is the protest planned for my area is invite-only. They refuse to provide information unless you give them all of yours, which means they're vetting attendees because they know putting the info out publicly will not redound to their benefit.
I put a tiny bit more effort into gathering info about the digital only thing. It's actually worse than I thought.
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(You can type in any country you want and there's results)
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Lmao regarding the UK/Scottish ones.
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So this shit is also international I just discovered, which means if they have the entire globe, then that 6 million+ figure they touted as possible attendees includes the literal rest of the world.
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"This is bigger than politics." = "We don't actually have a goal in mind."

Are they retarded?
Yes.
 
8. Another big one, Trump wants to build his "Golden Dome", an entire missile defense apparatus that is nation-wide, taking its name from Israel's Iron Dome. Will open the door to even more Palantir as well as military defense contractors to build the worlds most advanced and widespread missile battery system that will essentially span our entire border in all for directions and protect major metropolitan cities.
I’m guessing this is what people are wigging about - I heard tell of Palantir connecting all federal agencies (or investigative/defense) on people’s data. Vance (on Theo Von’s podcast - this is not where I get my news I just happened to listen to Dillon and him today, and saw some YouTube videos I didn’t watch complaining about technocracy) said it is more about being able to easily identify an individual (terrorist he said, which is what we’ve heard before for the Patriot Act) and people should be more concerned with private companies getting your data, which was odd to me because a private company is getting the data from this act as far as I know.
 
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>he just SAID he'll cuck out
nigga it's still very bad
I’m between these points, like disheartened that he was crowing about a deal with China

Like, the prior status quo doesn’t exist anymore to the full extent that it did, but we can’t keep letting “students” smuggle agrocidal fungus into the heartland, we can’t let them buy up our farmland and real estate, we can’t keep buying pharmaceuticals from them, the list of bad fucking ideas is endless
 
I’d settle for Kent State II: the unfaggening
Yeah and what they never teach you about Kent State is that, the week prior to the shooting, rioters were trying to break into the local police station, burned down some buildings, trashed the community, and there were countless Weather Underground types/wannabes calling in serious threats to the local community. Even after the kids got shot and it was shown that the National Guard fucked up, the locals straight up didn't care and said those kids played with fire and got what was coming to them.

People really, really do not want to understand why Nixon won in a landslide in 1972.
 
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