2025 Israel vs Iran War

UN confirms nuke and chemical contamination at Natanz:
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mister fireworks said:
well can't they buy a nuke making kit from russia or something? Iran being held up as this big "threat" to the US is so retarded they cant even kill more than a dozen kikes in their big airstrike.
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I think you're oversimplifying the relationship between Russia and Iran and misconceiving what is merely a strategic partnership for pure necessity (primarily trade due to sanctions) rather than aligned ideological beliefs, especially for two powers that were historically geopolitical rivals for centuries over the Caspian region. Russia does not want Iran to have nuclear weapons, they never did.
 
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Guys, chill out. Things are just getting started. This isn't over. Don't call a boxing match after the first punches are thrown. This can go for a long time on both sides. And the information space is heavily censored/muddied so the real info we'll get will be trickled down. Neither Iran or Israel have won/lost yet.
 
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draggs said:
(or have enough tons of rubble and rock asploded into blocking the entrance for a very long time)
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Yeah, one of the problems is that we often see this used as a synonym for 'destroyed' in press releases, when it doesn't actually destroy the nuclear material/lower parts of facility, it just makes it harder to get access to. And from what I understand Iran is constantly hardening their infrastructure by connecting their nuclear facilities to others and to alternative access points through deep tunnels. So even if you collapse the entrance there is often still one or more 'backdoor' entrances that are all but invisible to satellite surveillance and difficult to identify through espionage - you don't have to tell anyone aside from the crew working on them and the direct higher-ups about them, as they don't need to be used until a strike happens. They can be built, covered up, and forgotten.

Overall I'm somewhat skeptical about our intelligence about Iran. I think the situation must be pretty dire if Israel is carrying out an attack like this - and that 'Iran already has a proto-nuke' might even be somewhere in Israeli intelligence's margin of error.
 
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SlipNHonkMach2 said:
I think you're oversimplifying the relationship between Russia and Iran and misconceiving what is merely a strategic partnership for pure necessity (primarily trade due to sanctions) rather than aligned ideological beliefs, especially for two powers that were historically geopolitical rivals for centuries over the Caspian region. Russia does not want Iran to have nuclear weapons, they never did.
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Russia doesn't even want a nuclear Iran. Remember Russia is full of muslims.
 
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ToEnsureVerification said:
Guys, chill out. Things are just getting started. This isn't over. Don't call a boxing match after the first punches are thrown. This can go for a long time on both sides. And the information space is heavily censored/muddied so the real info we'll get will be trickled down. Neither Iran or Israel won/lost yet.
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