2025 Israel vs Iran War

Ghost88 said:
Can someone link me to definitive proof that the missiles were not intercepted by the iron dome defense or whatever?

Also based on Israel's reaction to Hama's attacks I think it's unlikely Iran as a country survives this. I am looking at Gvir & Smotrich to dog walk relucant Bibi into a war of conquest
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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
So Fox News is showing live footage of white children (like under 10) being carried out of a bombed village. The people all look like normal Western Europeans. I bring this up because that shit will resonate more with the average American than some brown child. They can't relate to.
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Why are they in the middle east then
 
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EpicGamerMoment said:
Israel uses human shields and has tunnels and missile bases under civilian homes
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Missile bases and tunnels under civilian homes rofl

Israel has military buildings near residential areas like

Russia
Canada
China
Britain
Germany
France
Italy
Greece
America
Mexico
Japan

And every other country on the planet does. The military headquarters of nearly every country is in or right beside the capital city. Directly south of the Pentagon is a mixed residential/business neighborhood with only I-395 between them. The Kremlin has apartment blocks across the street. Same thing in London, Berlin, Ottawa...
 
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Maori Kiwifruit Growers said:
So the rumor is that Israel is now super BIG MAD because Iran chose to target Israeli civilian sites as oppose to military ones, so they will go after Iranian civilian sites and symbols of the regime. This includes ones which were shot down too.
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The missiles landed around the Israeli Ministry of Defense headquarters. Why they built their defense HQ near a heavily populated civilian site, we can only speculate. Perhaps this is just a deeply semitic thing to do.
 
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Larry Poster said:
The Talmud -
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Some of these are false.
>Avodah Zarah 26b:8 says "§ The Gemara discusses the subject of assisting or receiving aid from a gentile in the context of circumcision. The Sages taught: A Jew may circumcise a gentile for the sake of making him a convert. This is to the exclusion of circumcising a gentile for the sake of removing a worm [murna], which is not permitted, as it is forbidden to heal a gentile. But one may not allow a gentile to circumcise a Jew in any situation, because gentiles are suspected of bloodshed. This is the statement of Rabbi Meir."
>"Schabouth Hag" doesn't exist.
>"Hikkoth Akum" doesn't exist.
>"Gad Shas" doesn't exist.
>"Choschen Hamm" doesn't exist. A choshen is a Jewish priest breastplate.
>"Libbre David" doesn't exist.
>"Szaaloth Utzsabot" doesn't exist.


Some are true.
>Sanhedrin 59a:2-3 says "And Rabbi Yoḥanan says: A gentile who engages in Torah study is liable to receive the death penalty; as it is stated: “Moses commanded us a law [torah], an inheritance of the congregation of Jacob” (Deuteronomy 33:4), indicating that it is an inheritance for us, and not for them." and "The Gemara challenges: But if so, let the tanna count this prohibition among the seven Noahide mitzvot. The Gemara explains: According to the one who says that the verse is referring to the Torah as an inheritance, this prohibition is included in the prohibition of robbery, as a gentile who studies Torah robs the Jewish people of it. According to the one who says that the verse is referring to the Torah as betrothed, as the spelling of the Hebrew word for betrothed [me’orasa], is similar to that of the word for inheritance [morasha], the punishment of a gentile who studies Torah is like that of one who engages in intercourse with a betrothed young woman, which is execution by stoning."

>Shulchan Arukh Yoreh De'ah 123 (not 122) says: "HEADER: Several laws of 'Yayin Nesech' (and which wine is forbidden because of 'Yayin Nesech') and there are 26 paragraphs in it: [1] The wine of the nations (non-Jews) is prohibited to derive pleasure from, and the same applies to their contact with our wine. [RAMA: this is because of a decree regarding wine that was poured as a libation to idols. Nowadays, when it is not common for nations to make libations to idols, some say that the touch of a non-Jew to our wine does not prohibit its use for pleasure, only for drinking. Similarly, ordinary - non-sacramental - wine of theirs is not prohibited for deriving pleasure from it, and therefore it is permissible to collect a debt from a non-Jew with ordinary wine, as it is considered as saving it from their hands (Tur in the name of Rashbam, the Rosh and Mordechai). And the same applies to other losses, such as if he went ahead and bought or sold, but initially it is forbidden to buy it and sell it in order to profit from it (Commentaries of Maimonides, Chapter 8 of Forbidden Foods, and comments of Ashiri and Mahar"m of Padua, Responsa 46). However, there are those who are lenient even in this, but it is good to be stringent. See Siman 132 (there in the name of Semag and Agur in the name of the Geonim)."

>Bava Metzia 114b:2 says: "The amora proceeded to ask Elijah a different question and said to him: Is not the Master a priest? What is the reason that the Master is standing in a cemetery? Elijah said to him: Has the Master not studied the mishnaic order of Teharot? As it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai says that the graves of gentiles do not render one impure, as it is stated: “And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man” (Ezekiel 34:31), which teaches that you, i.e., the Jewish people, are called “man,” but gentiles are not called “man.” Since the Torah states with regard to ritual impurity imparted in a tent: “If a man dies in a tent” (Numbers 19:14), evidently impurity imparted by a tent does not apply to gentiles."

>Avodah Zarah 37a:1-2 says: "The Gemara explains the reason for this opinion: Since a nine-year-old boy is fit to engage in intercourse, he also imparts ritual impurity as one who experienced ziva. Ravina said: Therefore, with regard to a female gentile child who is three years and one day old, since she is fit to engage in intercourse at that age, she also imparts impurity as one who experienced ziva." and "The Gemara asks: Isn’t that obvious? The Gemara explains: It was necessary to state this ruling, lest you say that the halakha that a gentile who is suited for intercourse imparts impurity does not apply to a female. The possible difference between a male and female child is based on the fact that whereas that child, a nine-year-old male gentile, knows how to accustom others to sin by employing persuasion, this child, a three-year-old female gentile, does not know how to accustom others to sin until she matures. Therefore, Ravina teaches us that the halakha nevertheless applies to both male and female children."

Passages I found while reading:
Avodah Zarah 2a:1 says "MISHNA: On the three days before the festivals of gentiles the following actions are prohibited, as they would bring joy to the gentile, who would subsequently give thanks to his object of idol worship on his festival: It is prohibited to engage in business with them; to lend items to them or to borrow items from them; to lend money to them or to borrow money from them; and to repay debts owed to them or to collect repayment of debts from them. Rabbi Yehuda says: One may collect repayment of debts from them because this causes the gentile distress. The Rabbis said to Rabbi Yehuda: Even though he is distressed now, when he repays the money, he is happy afterward that he is relieved of the debt, and therefore there is concern that he will give thanks to his object of idol worship on his festival."

>Eruvin 43b:6 says: "The Gemara comments: It might enter your mind to say that since Elijah will not come on Shabbat eve due to the trouble involved, the Messiah will also not come then, and if so, on Shabbat eve he should also be permitted to drink wine. However, this reasoning is rejected: It is only Elijah who will not arrive on Shabbat eve, but the Messiah himself may arrive, for once the Messiah comes, all the nations will be subservient to the Jewish people, and they will help them prepare whatever is needed for Shabbat."

>Niddah 55b: Niddah (I'm being lazy but I'm referencing all of Niddah 55b)

>Avodah Zarah 36b:8 says: "The Gemara explains: Rather, the prohibition prescribed by Torah law applies to the case of a gentile who engaged in intercourse with a Jewish woman, as she is drawn after him toward idolatry, but the case of a Jew who engaged in intercourse with a gentile woman is not included in the prohibition by Torah law. And the students of Shammai and Hillel came and decreed that the prohibition applies even to a Jew who engaged in intercourse with a gentile woman."

Jewish Texts (read this to get stoned)
TL;DR laws for Jewish people, rabbis debating endlessly and also Gentiles are untrustworthy idol worshipers so limit your interactions with them.

Interactions with non-Jews
This is a summary of how Jews should interact with Gentiles. Easier to get through than hundreds of books and passages.

Avodah Zarah
Summary:
Composed: Talmudic Babylon, c.450 – c.550 CE
Tractate Avodah Zara (“Idolatry”) is a tractate in Seder Nezikin (“Order of Damages") that discusses the prohibition of idolatry and regulations on interactions between Jews and idolaters. The first two chapters address economic relationships with idolaters and consumption of their food. The third and fourth chapters discuss laws related to forbidden idols and images and the process of their nullification, and the fifth chapter discusses the prohibition of deriving benefit from wine that was poured as libation for idol worship.

Too long; don't care: If you must hate Jews, hate them for accurate reasons, not copypastas full of half truths.
 
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