2025 Israel vs Iran War

I really hate to be that guy, but what are the chances that America gets involves or that this conflict quickly spirals into World War III? I know Iran wouldn't risk attacking America, but I've heard New York City is on high alert.
0% that the US gets involved militarily in any meaningful capacity. Iran has no real way to attack Israel in any meaningful way aside from randomly shooting missiles. We'll be sending gotrillions of dollars though, enjoy the tax hike.
 
Both muzzies and Jews, hopefully, bomb each other to kingdom come and get the fuck off this planet. Only difference is this thread doesn't have unironic Mohammed lovers spamming pages upon pages of IDF propaganda, whereas there are dozens of self admitted kike jew zionists in here. So yeah, I'm gonna call those retards out and they're gonna think I'm on the muzzies side cause they are retards.
ok so if all us jews go away, what will this thread become? more "hurdurr kikes got what coming to them" "da joooz" because that's quite the deep conversation. Do you act this way whenever you see a bagel?
 
I really hate to be that guy, but what are the chances that America gets involves or that this conflict quickly spirals into World War III? I know Iran wouldn't risk attacking America, but I've heard New York City is on high alert.
Well kids, you know you've been protesting to Free Palestine for the past two years? How do you feel about getting drafted to go fight for Israel?
 
I really hate to be that guy, but what are the chances that America gets involves or that this conflict quickly spirals into World War III? I know Iran wouldn't risk attacking America, but I've heard New York City is on high alert.
Chances of WWIII are absolutely zero.
For any "WWIII" chance, China would have to get involved and China's not jumping in to bail out Iran.
 
he marks every post I make as "autistic" or "dumb" or "mati" dude's a loon.
Dude's literally going through my post history in other threads to mark them all autistic because he's retarded enough to think that these reddit-tier stickers actually matter. Everything else he does after this point is just gravy.
 
Insane how in the time span of 2 years all of Iran's friends/proxies got annihilated or crippled lol
Technically the Houthis are still standing.
Though their continued ability to do anything is kind of degraded as opposed to 2 years ago.
Are they even a functional military unit after what happened? lmao
Their concern is self-preservation internally in case any Christians or Sunnis in Lebanon get any funny ideas, and/or any would-be rival Shiite group decides Hez is no longer fit to represent their interests
 
I really hate to be that guy, but what are the chances that America gets involves or that this conflict quickly spirals into World War III? I know Iran wouldn't risk attacking America, but I've heard New York City is on high alert.
We will be funneling a shitload of money to them, that's a guarantee. We won't be getting involved outside of BM defense and some other behind the scenes ways unless they do the big stupid and attack our assets directly out there. Which right now they need every missile they can get to lob at Israel to try and score hits, so I find it unlikely.
 
Technically the Houthis are still standing.
Though their continued ability to do anything is kind of degraded as opposed to 2 years ago.
I was going to say, they took a giant ass beating, seem to have abandoned attacking ships after we got involved, and they don't really do anything except the occasional lone missile launch.
 
PM Mosaddegh nationalized Iran's oil industry in the early 1950s. Churchill needed Iranian oil under BP Oil as he claimed it all belonged to Britain. MI6 stoked anti-Mosaddegh sentiment with the aim of setting up a pro-Western government and resume oil production. He eventually contacted hte US CIA to plan the coup. AT the time, Iran was developing democractic systems such as a parliament with parties. Mosaddegh was a reformer as part of the National Front party. When the coup occurred, all democratic progress was snuffed out instantly. The Shah believed the coup was a vote of confidence in himself and asserted his power using the military and secret police to crush opposition. The next 25+ years were marked by brutal oppression of the Iranian secular people, a stark contrast from the democratic state that was developing prior.

The Shah would become known as an American puppet due to his relations to the US and friendly manner toward Israel. Over the years he tooks teps to protect Americans in Iranian courts. This alienated the Iranian people from the US and fomented negative sentiment.

By the late 1970's, Kohmeini Ayatollah quickly gained support from the Iranians, stating "oppressors are to be judged and the Satanic government is to be abolished". The Shah's oppressive regime hit a breaking point and Khomeini returned to Tehran with thousands of supporters in the streets, and the Iranian military rose up against the Shah.

Works cited:
A.H.H Abidi “The Iranian Revolution: Origins and Dimensions.” Intl Studies 18, no. 2 (1979)

Hugh Wilford, America’s Great Game: CIA’s Secret Arabists Shaping of the Modern ME (New York, 2013)

Betty Glad, Outsider White House: Jimmy Carter, Advisors, andAmerican Fopo (Ithaca: Cornell Press 2009),

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God, I hate effort posting to reply to Jewish trolls, but the JIDF is just in full force today!
You call this effort posting? Citing arab / communist "academic" sources is not effort posting and this shit is just your opinion. Democratic efforts in arab countries is the 50's never led to any actual democracy. Every single arab country that became a republic after WWII turned into a dictatorship or a failed state. They keep blaming america for this but the reality is that their rulers are incompetent and corrupt

To believe this crap you cite, you must be an arab yourself. This is why your countries fail, you never learn. The arabs are too stupid to rule themselves like normal people do. You guys need a king to prevent you from going full retard, islam version. Every single stable muslim country has a monarch: Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Jordan are all fine countries and they all have one thing in common, they have kings. Iran under the Shah was not fully democratic but it was prosperous and stable and the people enjoyed way more freedom than they ever did before or after that. Iranians usually confirm that. There was no "brutal oppression" unless you were a commie or an islamic in which case you deserve to eat shit in hell.

Everything single muzzie shithole is a republic that has made "democratic efforts".
 
It's reasonable to think that, especially since the US government was clearly forewarned and most likely approved of the operation. It's also less schizo of a position than just assuming that Israel is completely ineffective without US support simply because we send them a large aid package that's basically just us giving them a coupon to buy US weapons systems.
I think you can be capable of hating a specific side, or both, or everyone involved, but you can still try to be objective in approaching something with all the details collated and create a conclusion from there, even if it's one you don't necessarily want to agree with. With this we don't have all the details yet, so the best I can do is theorise.

Israel launching from US bases and lying about it does as much to protect themselves as it does their benefactors since, as you stated, launching from bases hosted in Kuwait and Iraq would be irreconcilable to the Muslims. That would put America in a lot of hot water diplomatically and would invite a lot of hostility, potentially. Osama Bin Laden's entire impetus for attacking America was their close ties to Israel and right now America is at a critical juncture trying to play peacekeeper and making in-roads with the Saudis and Egypt so right now their position is rather delicate to go about allowing Israel to initiate strikes from their bases. Though for much the same reason that can be used as a reason for why America wouldn't let them do so anyway. I think it might have legs but it does have plenty going against it.

I'm sure there were multiple causes, I'm not sure the Jews even had a stranglehold over US politicians all the way back then the way they do now so the influence was likely less.
I agree, I'm just not completely familiar with the 1953 coup but I think they combined to show the US wasn't beholden to Israeli interests at the time.

Regarding Jewish stranglehold over US politics, it likely comes down to AIPAC.

AIPAC (or what would eventually become it) was born in 1953 and it would take a bit for the ball to get rolling on that. Similar to the ADL and Leo Frank, the circumstances around it's creation were just as... iffy. Former employee of the Israel government founded a pro-Zionist lobby to act effectively as PR for Israel ( as a result of the Qibya massacre ) but wouldn't become the AIPAC we know and "love" until 1959 when it adopted the name it does now, and it would take a little bit longer still before they became a lobbying powerhouse.

The Yon Kippur war marked this turn, when a ton of Jews starting throwing cash at AIPAC because when you hear your homeland (even one you've never been too before) has been embroiled in a 2-on-1 you probably start to worry. After this they became capable of throwing enough money around to start being effective at lobbying congress, so if you want to give an exact year on when the colloquial "Jews" started having large sway over American politicians, that would be 1973. The year after this, President Ford, who considered reassessing the value of Israel to American interests in the Middle East (as in, they were going to get demoted in importance), met opposition from congress and senate and so kept them as an important partner in the region.
 
"Operation Rising Lion" and "Operation True Promise III". I hate how code names for operations are all super gay and on the nose now, especially when non-Americans do it. Bring me back to the days of Operation Hump, Operation Bushmaster Bravo, Operation Wonderland.
 
You call this effort posting? Citing arab / communist "academic" sources is not effort posting and this shit is just your opinion. Democratic efforts in arab countries is the 50's never led to any actual democracy. Every single arab country that became a republic after WWII turned into a dictatorship or a failed state. They keep blaming america for this but the reality is that their rulers are incompetent and corrupt
How come you can't stop posting retarded stuff? You know Iran is not even arab? I don't give a shit about Iran or Muzzies btw. With any luck, Iran, Israel, and the whole Middle East will fall into a sinkhole. Meanwhile you are fucking seething. Anyway thanks for the world salad of angry rage, no need to talk to a retard like you anymore.
 
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