2025 Israel vs Iran War

[soy_king]

Once you understand Iran/Contra all the way back in the 80s, there wasn't another way this was going to end. We've been on this track longer than most people that post here have been alive, and I'm probably missing a big chunk of it going back even further. Iran was mostly kept in check by Iraq, but the neocons of the late 90s (Bush Sr) and his Son in the 00s (W) took Iraq off the table, and Iran wasn't really kept in check any longer.

I hope to god this shit with Iran is the end of it, and I hope it doesn't spread into a bigger regional war, and that seems to be the case so far. Anyone that believes in prayer would do well to pray it stays isolated to just iran and Israel. I truly don't give a shit about anything in the middle east, I only care if America treasure and blood are spilled there.

I think we're going to do our utmost to not get ourselves involved in this war and allow Israel to bear the brunt of the casualties. I said this earlier, but Iran is completely isolated without its Axis of Resistance being able to provide any realistic assistance and I think China and India would only intervene if Iran starts to completely disintegrate and those countries' main source of oil is threatened.

I do hope Iran isn't stupid enough to lash out at us, even if the Fifth Fleet would obliterate them in a matter of minutes.

 

[BunchaBabyDucks]

Are you an
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We'll all be both in the end wont we?

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

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That was a funny movie.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

North Korea hates the west as much as anyone. And they have upwards of 50 nukes. The whole "muh Islamic holy war" thing is mirrored in North Korea, just from a political point of view instead of a religious one.

No, North Korea hates having the kim family getting killed. This isn't 1962. North Korea isn't focused on "exporting Communism" they're more worried about china, south korea or the usa going "enough of their shit it's invasive time". North Korea is what happens if you take imperial japan and place it in the modern era.

I really don't believe in kicking away the ladder, when it comes to weapons of war.
"Now we have them, and that's bad enough. Sorry, no one else gets to."

There is a whole field of international relations where this debate never dies. I can find academic papers on it if you really want to go down the autism hole.

And any talk about chemical/biological warfare and war crimes from Assad goes out the window, since they've been used plenty of times by America, especially while trying to skirt around the rules by using a herbicide in Vietnam and so on.

we weren't dumping vx gas on the Vietnamese. That's what I was talking about. less agent orange and more saren gassing your people.

You just don't want to be put in a poorer position weaponry and tactics wise with decreased odds of victory, and that's really all it boils down to.

That's an argument. I mean I also believe nuclear war is winnable so if anything your argument has enough weight and merit as mine here. But I still disagree.

 

[Moneybags7173]

this is just cope, David’s sling and Arrow 3 are proven effective systems at this point

Only if you ignore the scrambled jets from all the supporting nations + them using their Air defenses to intercept.
Israel and the US have both confirmed the US was intercepting missiles on Israel's behalf, Jordan has publicly stated they were intercepting anything sent by Iran through their airspace (They didn't do this for Israel's strikes).

Israeli air defense statistics are greatly skewed by them including third party intercepts in their stats, we've seen how easily it gets overwhelmed operating alone with Hamas shitflinging and Iran rockthrowing v1.

 

[Ed Special]

Before you know it, you got a bunch of nuclear Muslim nations.

And that's a bad thing how, exactly? Their militaries are structurally, culturally, and literally too retarded to actually wage war even remotely effectively, so the end result will just be Islam wiping itself off the face of the Earth while Israel takes the chance to nuke the unholy cities before they too get exterminated.

 

[Gerelatha]

Only if you ignore the scrambled jets from all the supporting nations + them using their Air defenses to intercept.
Israel and the US have both confirmed the US was intercepting missiles on Israel's behalf, Jordan has publicly stated they were intercepting anything sent by Iran through their airspace (They didn't do this for Israel's strikes).

Israeli air defense statistics are greatly skewed by them including third party intercepts in their stats, we've seen how easily it gets overwhelmed operating alone with Hamas shitflinging and Iran rockthrowing v1.

jets aren’t really capable of downing ballistic missiles, the only foreign system assisting with that is THAAD

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Fetterman weighs in:

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

And that's a bad thing how, exactly? Their militaries are structurally, culturally, and literally too retarded to actually wage war even remotely effectively, so the end result will just be Islam wiping itself off the face of the Earth while Israel takes the chance to nuke the unholy cities before they too get exterminated.

Talk to me when one of them gives a terrorist group a nuke and tells them to go set it off in the west because the woman don't cover their hair.

 

[Surfin Terf]

Imagine if Israel just got rid of the Ayatollah and go "Hey Iran people. now you can hold democratic elections. good luck"

and then Iran picked another Ayatollah backed group to lead them.

Realistically, if Israel did install a democratic government in Iran (and they won't) they would set it up to have proportional representation specifically to avoid this situation.

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Jewish funded of course.

Oh, which Jew supplied the princely sum of $100,000 that the operation cost?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if your democracy can be overthrown by a rogue CIA agent with $100,000 ($1.2 million today) then it wasn't going to make it, bro.

Only retarded commies simp for Mossadegh, whose brilliant idea to nationalize the oil fields while lacking the necessary expertise to keep them running was going to doom Iran regardless of Anglo-American intervention, and it's not like there wasn't massive opposition to him inside Iran at the time. It's funny that you're acting like you're responding to a room temperature take when you're literally regurgitating basic bitch commie talking points.

There was a pretty funny video where Hasan Piker is at some anti-Israel protest and takes a taxi. The driver happened to be an old Iranian refugee, so Hasan starts talking to him about how Iran is being bullied. The cabbie (not realizing that Hasan was looking for a specific response) starts going off on how the current regime is evil and Israel and America will destroy it. Hasan then hopes to get him pegged as an anti-Mossadegh hater, but (again, the driver still seemed to not realize that Hasan was trying to get a specific result) he talks about how he voted for Mossadegh but he was a failure as PM. This guy (who could have been a fascinating perspective to have stumbled into) was making Hasan feel uncomfortable by countering his narrative, so asks him to drop him off in the middle of traffic and walks the rest of the way.

Off topic, but I kinda wonder what faking Jewish suffering will look like in 2025, with all of the advancements in AI.

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I've literally never seen those images except in the context of "debunking" them

 

[soy_king]

There was a pretty funny video where Hasan Piker is at some anti-Israel protest and takes a taxi. The driver happened to be an old Iranian refugee, so Hasan starts talking to him about how Iran is being bullied. The cabbie (not realizing that Hasan was looking for a specific response) starts going off on how the current regime is evil and Israel and America will destroy it. Hasan then hopes to get him pegged as an anti-Mossadegh hater, but (again, the driver seemed to not realize that Hasan was trying to get a specific result) he talks about how he voted for Mossadegh but he was a failure as PM. This guy (who could have been a fascinating perspective to have stumbled into) was making Hasan feel uncomfortable, so asks him to drop him off in the middle of traffic and walks the rest of the way.

It's always funny to watch Western leftists like Hasan realize that first gen immigrant communities in the US that come from these authoritarian regimes invariably hate those regimes and are unbelievably pro-American, like the Russian Jews, Cubans, Persians, Vietnamese, and Venezuelans.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

ITT: Israel once again attacks another country and shills are out in full force defending them.

And for the record I couldn’t care less if Israel roasts Tehran in nuclear fire but Jews don’t get to cry “oy vey” and demand sympathy and support when they started the fight.

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

Do you have any idea the level of sophisticated coordination and military prestige this operation took?

Abusing your enemies' good faith attempts at diplomacy to coordinate an underhanded surprise attack is 'military prestige' now?

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

It's always funny to watch Western leftists like Hasan realize that first gen immigrant communities in the US that come from these authoritarian regimes invariably hate those regimes and are unbelievably pro-American, like the Russian Jews, Cubans, Persians, Vietnamese, and Venezuelans.

what's even better are when those guys were part of the regimes the lefties simp over tell the lefties "nah the west is right shit sucked and we knew it". It's like how lefties simp over the ussr but if you ask anyone who was in any bit of power (or lived through it) the only thing they miss about the ussr was the fact is was a major world power people had to listen to.

 

[soy_king]

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Abusing your enemies' good faith attempts at diplomacy to coordinate an underhanded surprise attack is 'military prestige' now?

Setting aside my own clear pro-Israel bias for a moment, Iran can go fuck itself, given how they literally center their entire political ideology around how evil America is, and how many Americans have died either directly or indirectly by Iran's own hand.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I hope to god this shit with Iran is the end of it, and I hope it doesn't spread into a bigger regional war, and that seems to be the case so far.

Iran did a very good job at basically pissing e everyone in the region off.

The Saudis and the Oil Sheikhdoms just want to pump gas and fuck bitches. War in the middle east makes it hard to pump the gas, and if they can't pump gas they have no money to fuck bitches.

Turkey wants to be big dog Sunni savior, but Iran propped up a whole bunch of Shia minorities and screwed with that idea for years. Even having the audacity to side with the Armenians, which as collateral damage also pissed off the Azeris.

Pakistan and Afghanistan likewise have had to deal with break away militias (supported by Iran on the down low) and so the Taliban and the Pakistanis are likewise totally ambivalent on what happens to Iran.

You would think being this diplomatically isolated and if not outright hated by all your neighbors you have no love lost with them, Tehran would work with a bit more tact. But no. The antagonize the USA at every turn, but worst of all overtly antagonize the Israelis who out of everyone in the middle east have a proven track record of responding to fighting talk by pulling out a gun and shooting.

There isn't going to be a regional war. That maybe could have happened had Iran still had its various militia groups in their stupid Axis of Resistance and Assad was still in charge in Damascus. Unfortunately everyone from Hezbollah to the Houthis have been demolished after two years of fighting Israel and Assad is eating Borscht in Russia now. Which means Iran is completely isolated.

It's legit over for them. The Jews won again.

 

[Total Annihilation]

Rare poo W

 

[Moneybags7173]

jets aren’t really capable of downing ballistic missiles, the only foreign system assisting with that is THAAD

Jets were used to intercept sahed drones, which as you already know, were part of a two phase attack designed to tie up Israel's air defenses.
Not sure what you're trying to achieve denying widely publicized facts, such as Israel requesting US navy destroyers to reposition to intercept on Israel's behalf
Source

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Setting aside my own clear pro-Israel bias for a moment, Iran can go fuck itself, given how they literally center their entire political ideology around how evil America is, and how many Americans have died either directly or indirectly by Iran's own hand.

Furthermore Iran is hated by most muslims and Persians seriously the only people who simp for iran in 21 century are the same retards who fetishize Orthodox Christianity, except you know they're shia

 

[mindlessobserver]

Abusing your enemies' good faith attempts at diplomacy to coordinate an underhanded surprise attack is 'military prestige' now?

It is if you win. Also lol. Iran was negotiating in good faith about as much as the US was.