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Should be a wild four years.

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I read all that when it went down. It was a flare up, but the thread very quickly got back to its regular tone, as it always does after these little flare ups.

Just because I don't post in this thread very often anymore (because I dislike most of the regulars and because this is the fastest fucking thread on the site, seriously I don't know how the regulars even keep up) doesn't mean I don't read it.
because after that particular fuck up we got plenty of winning done. You seem autistically unable to reconcile that even with best intention some thing gonna grate. Same deal as Massie, can't see the forest for the trees
 
Shot their spouses also.

Rep. Melissa Hortman, Sen. John Hoffman shot in 'targeted' shootings: Sources
FOX9 (archive.ph)
By Melissa Turtinen
2025-06-14 08:16:39GMT
BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (FOX 9) - Two Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses were shot by someone impersonating a police officer, sources confirmed to FOX 9.

Sen. John Hoffman and Rep. Melissa Hortman, as well as their spouses, were shot in the overnight shootings in Champlin and Brooklyn Park, sources told FOX 9's Karen Scullin.

Their conditions are not known as of this writing.

Hortman, a Democrat from Brooklyn Park, represents District 34B. Hoffman, a Democrat from Champlin, represents Senate District 34.

Brooklyn Park, Champlin shootings
What we know:

The shelter-in-place alert sent at 5:30 a.m. by Brooklyn Park Police Department is for the 3-mile radius around the Edinburgh Golf Course.

Police say they are looking for a suspect in multiple targeted shootings. The suspect is armed and dangerous. The suspect is a white man with brown hair wearing black body armor over a blue shirt and blue pants, and he may be impersonating law enforcement.

Residents are told not to approach the suspect and to call 911. Authorities are also telling people in the area not to answer their door for a police officer unless it's two officers together, or call 911 to confirm the identity of the officer at your door.

Within the shelter-in-place order, about 2.5 miles away from the golf course, there is an active scene on Windsor Terrace North. About 7 miles away in Champlin, there is an active scene on 109th Place.

The Hennepin County Sheriff's Office confirms an investigation is underway and Brooklyn Park is the lead agency.

What they're saying:
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz and others are commenting on the shooting.

Gov. Walz:
"I’ve been briefed this morning on an ongoing situation involving targeted shootings in Champlin and Brooklyn Park. The Minnesota Department of Public Safety and local law enforcement are on the scene. We will share more information soon."

Mounds View Mayor Zach Lindstrom:
"I'm just learning of the events that took place last night due to getting a safety alert for elected officials. I never thought we'd be here. My prayers are with the Hortman, and Hoffman families. I hope everyone comes out of this ok. I cannot emphasize enough that this is not ok. Any type of violence against elected officials is not ok. Any type of violence against other people is not ok. My understanding is that its someone cos-playing as a officer and they haven't been caught. For those going out to protest today please do it safely and if something looks off say something we do not need anyone else to get hurt."
edit: FOX9 has a live stream on the front page of their site. The anchor says:
One suspect in custody. Police searching for another one.
First shooting at 2am.
Officer involved shooting at the Brooklyn Park scene.
 
BREAKING - It’s been revealed the Minnesota democratic lawmakers shot last night, State Rep. Melissa Hortman and State Sen. John Hoffman, both recently voted against their party, with Hortman supporting repeal of free healthcare for illegals and Hoffman joining Republicans in the Senate to pass it.
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EDIT: THE TERRORISTIC DEMOCRATS ARE KILLING THEIR OWN FOR BETRAYAL OF BEANERS!!!!!!!!!
 
Since they're both from the same district it seems likely to be someone local who felt screwed over by some policy they both voted on. The only other alternative is that it's someone who finally went off the reservation and decided to target politicians rather than civilians for a change and those two just happened to be the closest.
 
wtf is a heritage american
Anyone who's family have been citizens here for a few generations or more, excluding dual-citizens. If America is going to have ethnogenesis we need a cutoff for what qualifies as American.
also lol jew hater complaining about circle jerks lmao
Blame CTR for making me hate jews. Hopefully Aryeh in Fishtank S4 can cure me of my antisemitism.
because after that particular fuck up we got plenty of winning done. You seem autistically unable to reconcile that even with best intention some thing gonna grate. Same deal as Massie, can't see the forest for the trees
The wins aren't enough. When the Thiel crowd and Israel gets everything they want while we get a few morsels here and there, that's not a win, that's placation. We deserve more deportations, more protestors getting their balls collapsed by non-lethal rounds, more spic legislators getting manhandled out of press briefings, etc. Don't be satisfied with a few token wins while he buttfucks you long-term. Is it still better than Kamala Harris gay race communism? Of course it is, that's not the point.

How did the Democrats get exactly what they want for decades? They were never satisfied. They always wanted more. Even now, with Trump in office and the elite opinion-cascade underway, they still hold tremendous institutional power from all their victories.

Also, don't compare me to that shitsucking faggot Massie.
 
I've heard it all. I'm old enough to remember when I was being told Rubio, who slipped in via hard Tea Party co-opting, was the next outsider who was going to save us. Hawley, Johnson. I could go on.
Since you've created your account 2 months ago you have only posted in 3 threads, this one (which you haven't posted in until this month), John Badman's Economic Collapse thread which is where you started in, and the TES thread. Nowhere else have you posted, not a single lolcow thread. Hollywood is wrong on a lot of things but it seems like he is right about new accounts (a bit ironic coming from me since my account is not that old but at least I also post in lolcow threads)
 
Dude, if this turns out to be some spurned liberal angry they voted against party lines, that's gonna be hysterical.
Probably too good to be true, but damn.
ABC is reporting that it is "Targeted" Link: https://abcnews.go.com/US/2-minnesota-lawmakers-shot-targeted-incident-officials/story?id=122840751

Two state lawmakers were shot in an apparent "targeted" incident on Saturday, officials said. Their conditions are grave.

A source familiar with the matter tells ABC News that two of those shot are state Sen. John Hoffman of Champlin and state Rep. Melissa Hortman of Brooklyn Park. Both were shot at their homes, and authorities believe the shooter was impersonating law enforcement, the source says.

The two shootings took place early Saturday morning in Champlin, Minnesota, and Brooklyn Park, Minnesota -- located approximately 8 miles away from each other just north of Minneapolis.

"I’ve been briefed this morning on an ongoing situation involving targeted shootings in Champlin and Brooklyn Park," Gov. Tim Walz said in a social media post. "The Minnesota Department of Public Safety and local law enforcement are on the scene. We will share more information soon."

Walz said he's activated the State Emergency Operations Center.
 
EDIT: THE TERRORISTIC DEMOCRATS ARE KILLING THEIR OWN FOR BETRAYAL OF BEANERS!!!!!!!!!
Holy shit, I think you're right!

Lawmakers, who have until 7 a.m. Tuesday to pass a two-year $66 billion state budget, debated for nearly four hours over the measure before passing it with only one Democrat — House DFL Leader Melissa Hortman, of Brooklyn Park — voting with all Republicans in favor.

The chamber is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, requiring at least one DFL member to cross over in order for the bill to pass.

Minnesota House votes to strip health care from adult undocumented immigrants
The Minnesota Star Tribune (archive.ph)
By Allison Kite
2025-06-09 19:49:18GMT

The vote came after an hours-long debate wherein Democrats accused Republicans of leaving immigrants “out to die.”
The Minnesota House voted Monday to strip health coverage from adult undocumented immigrants, capping off hours of impassioned pleas from Democrats not to leave people without care.

Lawmakers, who have until 7 a.m. Tuesday to pass a two-year $66 billion state budget, debated for nearly four hours over the measure before passing it with only one Democrat — House DFL Leader Melissa Hortman, of Brooklyn Park — voting with all Republicans in favor.

The chamber is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, requiring at least one DFL member to cross over in order for the bill to pass.

“For a group of folks who proclaim to be pro-life, this is the least pro-life piece of legislation I have ever seen,” said Rep. Athena Hollins, DFL-St. Paul.

Undocumented immigrants were allowed to enroll in MinnesotaCare in January following legislation Democrats passed in 2023 when they held the House and Senate. Over the first few months of this year, more than 20,000 people enrolled, one-quarter of them children.

Undocumented adults will be removed from the program at the end of the year if the legislation passes the Senate.

Hollins said the proposal will result in increased costs and financial trouble for rural hospitals and questioned how Republicans would respond to constituents if they ask why rural providers close up shop.

“What are you going to say — because I really hate immigrants?” she asked.

House Floor Leader Harry Niska, R-Ramsey, spoke in favor of the bill and said providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants threatens to “blow a hole” in the budget, noting California and Illinois are considering rolling back similar programs.

“It will send the clear message to Minnesota taxpayers that taxpayer-funded benefits are not a reward for breaking federal immigration laws,” Niska said.

Members of the People of Color and Indigenous (POCI) Caucus decried the legislation at a press conference just ahead of the vote. They said Democrats offered to enact a multitude of other Republican priorities — including modifications to paid family medical leave — to avoid stripping health care from undocumented immigrants, but Republicans wouldn’t budge.

Sen. Alice Mann, DFL-Edina, said DFL legislative leaders had little choice but to revoke MinnesotaCare in order to reach a budget deal with Republicans and avoid a government shutdown.

“We offered them all of the things,” Mann said, “including multiple tweaks to this provision itself, and they said, ‘No, we will shut down the government. We will make sure that all Minnesotans do not get their SNAP and do not get their healthcare and do not get their waivers and do not get their services.’”

Republicans said removing the coverage was not about being uncaring, but rather a budgetary issue.

Rep. Jeff Backer, R-Browns Valley, who sponsored the bill revoking coverage, said lawmakers take an oath to serve their constituents and “that’s what this bill does.”

“It serves the hardworking, lawful Minnesotans,” Backer said. He said undocumented immigrants could purchase private health insurance on the market.

Niska said lawmakers are stewards of public money and allowing undocumented immigrants to access MinnesotaCare is “poor stewardship.”

“The government is not the church, it’s not a charity,” Niska said, “and the government is not your neighbor.”

A spreadsheet detailing the budget shifts says the legislation would save the state $148 million over four years, compared to Republicans’ claim of $600 million.

Democrats argue taking away health insurance will means immigrants will wait to seek medical care and wind up in the emergency room with critical illnesses. Since hospitals are required to treat people experiencing medical emergencies regardless of ability to pay, they’ll take on more uncompensated care, which taxpayers will wind up paying for, they said.

Democrats sought to amend the bill to allow undocumented seniors to stay on MinnesotaCare along with those with critical illnesses, including diabetes, cancer, hypertension, coronary artery disease and conditions that require dialysis services. It also would have allowed undocumented children who are on MinnesotaCare to remain enrolled when they turn 18.

That amendment failed on a party-line vote.

The bill moved on to the Senate for consideration Monday afternoon.
 
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Anyone who's family have been citizens here for a few generations or more, excluding dual-citizens. If America is going to have ethnogenesis we need a cutoff for what qualifies as American.

Blame CTR for making me hate jews. Hopefully Aryeh in Fishtank S4 can cure me of my antisemitism.

The wins aren't enough. When the Thiel crowd and Israel gets everything they want while we get a few morsels here and there, that's not a win, that's placation. We deserve more deportations, more protestors getting their balls collapsed by non-lethal rounds, more spic legislators getting manhandled out of press briefings, etc. Don't be satisfied with a few token wins while he buttfucks you long-term. Is it still better than Kamala Harris gay race communism? Of course it is, that's not the point.

How did the Democrats get exactly what they want for decades? They were never satisfied. They always wanted more. Even now, with Trump in office and the elite opinion-cascade underway, they still hold tremendous institutional power from all their victories.

Also, don't compare me to that shitsucking faggot Massie.
But i will, because just like Massie you didn't get exactly what you wanted so you decided to sulk and cry like a big fat tarded baby. Plain to see
 
it seems like they're calling it targeted mostly because it was two politicians and their spouses, in a premeditated act, i don't think there was anything so far that indicates they know any direct motivations yet. at the moment it could be some insane 'based' maga or it could be a libtard and his friend who want to make sure we're all paying for pablo's prescription pain pill addiction.
 
Yes, but Patel, Bondi... how do you not see that Don played you? I do appreciate your comment though so thank you for giving a legit one.
Because they aren't Trump. Bondi wasn't even his first choice. She was his backup. Kash has time and a win or two under his belt to prove himself.. Bondi is a liability and I don't see her making it till the end of the year.

Everything Trump himself has done has been successful. He's the best international politician we've had in any modern lifetime. The tariffs were a massive success, giving Trump nearly everything he wanted and BTFOing VAT. Sure, Ukraine and Russia didn't work out but that's not really Trump's fault. Mostly because Zelensky will likely be put to death if they consneed.

Everyone always says Don "played you"? But nobody ever actually says how? I got a solid 80-90% of what I voted for.
 
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