2025 Israel vs Iran War

Lach said:
On the real though maybe as a recap, why is Israel in particular so invested in Iran not having nuclear weapons?
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Because out of all the surrounding muslim states, Iran was the most vocal and has engaged in the most provocative behavior since the current regime came to power. They dont like the rest of the muslims, but Iran is head and shoulders above Iraq, SA etc. in terms of a threat to them.

Why do you think we occupied Afghanistan and then invaded and occupied Iraq? A really fun fact is when you realize Paul Wolfowitz a jew and Bush's national security advisor, was the reason the US invaded Iraq.
 
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Uh huh, sure:
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MOD facility in Isfahan:

Refinery in Tehran:

Drone hit on the Ilam municipality building:
 
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merpalerpaherp said:
Welcome to this little thing called life, shit ain't sweet, shit ain't fair it's a dog eat dog world. Nobody inherently has value, that's some pussy thinking, go make your value.
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How could someone be so extremely stupid to not know what the subject they are responding too is about and still come across like a drunk Facebook uncle.

I genuinely don’t get it.

Yes life is hard and liberal values are ultimately transitory-the point you stupid retard is the west’s identity is built around them, rightly or wrongly, whereas Israel is not.
 
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Ishtar said:
I am less depressed about this and more its domestic political ramifications. Which unless the conflict dies down will absolutely be disastrous and actually impact my life.

I hoped Trump would carry out a policy agenda of deportations and a minimum of fail states-a war with iran was always a vague possibility, but I figured that if only for structural limitations it would not happen.

It likely still will not-but MAGA will die, any rejuvenation of America will die, and the browns and troons will return-and they will implement a much severer tyranny than 2020.
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Not the place for this, but still something that has brought me a lot of hope and contentment over the past few years. Whites are strong, and we only got in this shape because we bought into the guilt/original sin. If we falter and fail and get wiped out, we didn't deserve to rule as long as we did.
 
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Ishtar said:

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From your first article

What do Israelis say when dodging military reserve duty? “What do I look like, a freier?”
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From your second

After telling him I had not served in the IDF, he responded, “Oh come on! You have to be soldier unless you want to be parve.” Parve, of course, meaning in this context bland, soft, unimportant, basically a freier.
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So being a soldier is being a freier but not being one is also being a freier?

I'm raised in Israel and know the culture, you read two articles with conflicting views and pretend you know us

Now answer the question
Catch The Rainbow said:
Isn't that what you've been doing this whole thread
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If I were an old man of 80, that would bring me contentment. Problem is I’m still relatively young. So I will have to see the horror and decline over the coming century: if I did not-it would be a fine consolation.
 
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1. Cleared for publication: Israel will need months-long military campaign to fully destroy Iran’s nuclear sites, Ynet reports, unless US joins war and deploys heavy munitions.
2. IDF prepares for lengthy war but Israel prefers to push weaker Iran into robust nuclear deal.
3. Israel’s initial war objectives: Harm Iran’s nuclear project, destroy Iranian air defenses to allow free access to Tehran, reduce ballistic missile threat, eliminate Iran’s military leadership, produce credible threat to wipe out Iranian leaders & possibly target energy assets.
4. This may be enough to secure good nuclear deal, the other option is a longer war. via
@yoavzitun
 
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Ishtar said:
How could someone be so extremely stupid to not know what the subject they are responding too is about and still come across like a drunk Facebook uncle.

I genuinely don’t get it.

Yes life is hard and liberal values are ultimately transitory-the point you stupid retard is the west’s identity is built around them, rightly or wrongly, whereas Israel is not.
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What the fuck does that have to with literally anything?
You're trying to put all of this extra literal nonsense by the way into hating Israel none of which can counter the fucking argument as to why they're fighting right now. You are literally just rambling like an insane retard about why jews are bad.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
1. Cleared for publication: Israel will need months-long military campaign to fully destroy Iran’s nuclear sites, Ynet reports, unless US joins war and deploys heavy munitions.
2. IDF prepares for lengthy war but Israel prefers to push weaker Iran into robust nuclear deal.
3. Israel’s initial war objectives: Harm Iran’s nuclear project, destroy Iranian air defenses to allow free access to Tehran, reduce ballistic missile threat, eliminate Iran’s military leadership, produce credible threat to wipe out Iranian leaders & possibly target energy assets.
4. This may be enough to secure good nuclear deal, the other option is a longer war. via
@yoavzitun
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Called that, now is where Iran blocks the strait or does something else stupid and causes the use of US bombs.
 
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Sammich said:
Your are fine with Iranian civilians getting killed, why shouldn't you be held to the same standard?
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When did I state that? I am against the killing of Iranian civilians as I view them as hostages of the regime. I was clear on this from the beginning.
Catch The Rainbow said:
I don't. The people of Iran are hostages of the regime that they hate, they shouldn't be harmed
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Regarding the EAM, can anybody speculate what sort of encryption algorithm they might use? I can't imagine it being anything other than a one-time pad combined with something else, since it is theoretically and practically unbreakable, but the logistics of maintaining the key across so many vessels would be incredibly difficult. I don't know.
 
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