2025 Israel vs Iran War

Rodeo Roadrunner said:
If the Iranians were not attempting to develop nuclear weapons, why would the NEED their own enrichment facilities? There are many countries that have nuclear reactors, that do not enrich their own fuel. They buy the enriched uranium from other suppliers. My understanding of the 'red line' in the negotiation process was that the United States wanted Iran to give up their enrichment facilities, but Iran refused to do so. Why would Iran need their own enrichment facilities in this case?
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They want the nuclear weapons as a strategic tool and a bargaining chip. Look at Ukraine who gave up on their Nukes for security guarantees. That went well for them, didn't it? If there's something important to learn, is that sadly, plutonium beats paper, and Iran wanted nukes precisely to avoid being fucked around like it is right now (and regime stability, I'm no ayatollah simp either).
 
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ToEnsureVerification said:
According to the latest info, they have enough to keep fighting for the 2 more weeks. lmao
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Which seems idiotic until you look at the number of senior Iranian Military Leadership killed.

Ballistic Missiles are generally viewed as "3 day weapons". As in if you didn't exhaust most of your stock in the first 3 days of war, you are likely to lose whatever you didn't use.

Whereas an actual Air Force in theater dropping bombs can go on almost indefinitely. Cheap easy to produce munitions and highly mobile delivery system.

Israel claims to have established Air Dominance over Iran. Considering the only Iranian response to the claim is a horribly bad AI of a downed F-35, I'm thinking the Israelis are probably not lying.

This is not a good situation to be sitting on 2 more weeks of Balistic Missiles. While Iran may have some stockpile of missiles sitting in a cave somewhere, their limiting factor appears to be launchers and logistics. Of which they lose a substantial number of launchers with each missile strike.
 
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Meat Target said:
Amen. I don't reject white nationalism because it's mean, or racist, or un-democratic.

I reject it because it is an ideology for lolcows. If all of your ideology's most prominent champions have threads on Kiwi Farms, then you do not deserve to be taken seriously.
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this is the result of a kind of reverse selection bias.
leftist controlled institutions that control public opinion have spent the better part of the last half century vilifying white nationalism and white supremacy as the ultimate untouchable evil, to the point where being associated with them is social suicide. in such an environment, of course nobody in their right mind would risk supporting such views in public, so the only people left going on the record with these views are those who are either too socially inept to realize the situation, or whose reputation is already so ruined that it makes no difference anymore.
basically your reaction is 100% in line with the goals of those who push those social engineering efforts.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Nick Fuentes has declared a Jewish empire already

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Evergreen quote from the Book of Holden
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Trump on Iran: we will do something after leaving g7

TRUMP: ON OUR WAY TO MAKING SURE IRAN DOES NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPON

TRUMP: IT'S IRRELEVANT IF ISRAEL CAN DISARM IRAN.

Trump on Iran: A deal will be signed, or something will happen.

President Trump today debunks the Islamic Republic propaganda saying that #Israel purposely sabotaged diplomacy with #Iran:



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ToEnsureVerification said:
They want the nuclear weapons as a strategic tool and a bargaining chip. Look at Ukraine who gave up on their Nukes for security guarantees. That went well for them, didn't it? If there's something important to learn, is that sadly, plutonium beats paper, and Iran wanted nukes precisely to avoid being fucked around like it is right now (and regime stability, I'm no ayatollah simp either).
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I disagree. The entire premise of Israel's argument against Iran is "they are trying to build nuclear weapons to use against us." If Iran gives up all uranium enrichment, then Israel has 0 basis whatsoever for any attack against Iran. Iran also starts moving away from being a pariah state, as the US would start to lift some sanctions. I don't see how Iran has far more to gain by NOT having nuclear weapons compared to actually having them.
 
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I believe Israel has air dominance over Iran. Iran can't shoot down what they can't see. Iran also knows that any aircraft they launch will be quickly removed unless they are fleeing into Russia or one of the *stan nations. Outdated AN-200 and 300 systems are ineffective. The only thing is Israel doesn't have a ton of aircraft that can go to Iran and back around the clock, they have to come in waves.

Iran at this point also has no navy, they have some nuisance PT boats but even those are no match to drones.

At this point, nothing except complete elimination of their nuclear capabilities is going to be accepted for peace.
 
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Launches incoming, 15-30 to impact. Sirens over Jordan

Looks like they are aiming for Dimona

Axios reports Iran has informed Washington it’s willing to discuss halting operations and restarting nuclear talks once its current response ends and Israeli strikes stop.
 
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