2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Chunky Salsa]

I've been waiting for 20 years now but no sauce from iran. All they do is spin centrifuges which is rather boring

Maybe they just like looking at it.

 

[Ghostse]

Axis of resistance Twitter is insane

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Somehow Mossad operatives are burning tires without being caught

No see Israel isn't bombing Tehran with impunity. They do not rule the skies. They simply have control of the ground in Tehran such that mossad operatives are able to stack and ignite tires with impunity.

If Israel's actual plan banked on an internal coup shaping up due to their strikes they are so retarded I don't know what to say. For all of Mossad's vaunted talents and success in this and most of their operations I don't see how they could rely on such a variable outcome.

No one is saying coup is in the wind. Another poster was using the word "coup" incorrectly to refer to Israel's targeting of enemy military leaders and scientists and I corrected them on the definition.

Though I'm sure Mossad does have a game plan if it did kick off.

Half the time they are declaring how Iran is 1000% winning and Israel will collapse in hours srsly guiz pls just trust me, and the other half of the time they are openly seething about how unfair it is that their geopolitical husbandos are getting the shit kicked out of them
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- mfw my botted xeets don't make BRICs become a military superpower alliance IRL -

If only those DSL were matched by commiserate amounts of grey matter.

It never ceases to tickle me when BRICS simps are shocked that the response of BRICS nations to the woes of other nations in their gay club is "Lol. Fucking lol man. So anyway we're raising the price of exports to you by 25% and slapping some tariffs on your imports."

 

[Gerelatha]

Salvo is only 10 or so and only 2 got intercepted last time or 0 on strike on power plant. 2 out of 2 got thru

why don’t they launch a bunch more missiles to hit everything then since Israel has no AD left according to you, I think you’re just saying this because it makes you feel better

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Too lazy to check who said it, but people have brought up Pakistan and India. Neither of them have developed modern nuclear weapons; and the ones they have developed have all been essentially under western or soviet supervision. Pakistan specifically was AQK, and they still only managed rattlefuck boosted designs. Iran can for sure build one of those, but being realistic, so can I.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

Axis of resistance Twitter is insane

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Somehow Mossad operatives are burning tires without being caught

They can't escape the Sand Nigger hivemind of living in the stone age.

 

[Shiki Ouji]

I knew this shit was coming from the moment I learned of Obama's shitty cuck "deal" with Iran. This should have been done last decade.

In a just world, Obomba would be rotting in a gulag for treason. If we do engage in war and take back our assets from the billions that Obama gave them, I could respect Trump for it, but that's likely a pipedream

 

[EyeGuy]

Israeli channel (link) speculates on the Iranian air force and ballistic missile procurement:

Why shouldn't the Iranians buy ballistic missiles abroad?

Various people ask what about filling Iranian warehouses with ballistic missiles from other countries, and the answer is that it is completely irrelevant. They are alone in this business.

The product that the Iranians need is a fairly specific one, not exactly on the shelf with Express. They need medium-to-long-range ballistic missiles, and the vast majority of countries do not have this product even if they were willing in principle to sell it to Iran.

Add to this the fact that the vast majority of countries are not willing to sell Iran any military equipment, and you get a very short list of candidates, each of whom is irrelevant for their own reasons:

- Russia could theoretically be high on the list, but the Lord of the World and Putin, his emissary, wanted it, and Russia today is generally a consumer of Iranian ballistic missiles, not the other way around.

- China is a very natural candidate with real stockpiles and Chinese production capacity, but China does not sell even a much simpler weapon than this to Russia - its declared ally, so there is no reason to assume that it would suddenly decide to supply ballistic missiles to Iran, when it is losing at a high rate.

- North Korea is the only serious candidate for the position, and it is also the source of the Iranian missile program in advance. However, North Korea has been selling its missiles to the Russians for some time, and its production capabilities are very limited. It is worth remembering that it is a much smaller country than Iran and Russia, and it cannot really be the armament factory for two voracious wars. This is in addition to the fact that the Russians can receive the missiles from North Korea directly, while Iran is overseas.

In short, under the current circumstances, Iran has nowhere to replenish its inventory except through self-production.

🛩 Where is the Iranian Air Force 🛩

In the entire war so far, we haven't seen any air battles between our planes and the Iranian Air Force, and that's not something to take for granted. Maybe we've gotten used to the fact that Hezbollah and Hamas don't have an air force except for drones, and so it seems natural to us, but Iran is not Hezbollah or Hamas. Iran has an air force.

Iran has fighter jets and interceptors, which are not on the level of the Israeli F-16, F-15, and F-35, but they certainly exist. They are also capable of making life much more difficult for our planes. It is worth remembering that our planes come from a distance of 1500 kilometers for a bombing attack, which leaves not a lot of maneuvering room for air battles. They can also try to hunt down the Israeli refueling planes, without which the entire Israeli operation is impossible.

The relevant aircraft in the Iranian Air Force are the American F-14 and Phantom, and the Russian MiG-29. They are clearly inferior to the Israeli fighter jets, but they are not complete junk like the MiG-21, but rather 3rd and 4th generation aircraft with a respectable record.

The reason why we don't see air battles is, in my opinion, threefold:

1. Quite a few planes were destroyed on the ground in Israeli attacks, and that certainly doesn't help them take off against us.

2. Planes need to be able to take off, and Israel is constantly hitting airports, collapsing the tunnel shafts where Iranian planes are stored. No hands - no cookies.

3. The most important reason of all is, in my opinion, a conscious Iranian decision. They don't need further humiliation in the form of Iranian planes being easily shot out of the sky, and this seems to them like a natural consequence of trying to confront the Israeli Air Force head-on.

In conclusion, I think the Iranian Air Force is being preserved by the regime for the day after tomorrow, just as it is preserving Hezbollah for the day after tomorrow. These are not the conditions under which they want to operate it, because even if they shoot down one or two Israeli planes - it is not worth destroying the entire air force available to them along the way.

Some Russian posts gleefully translated by an Israeli channel covering Russia (link):

Unpleasant questions for the Russian government from the head of a Russian anti-Semitic and Nazi unit (Rusich):

1. Israel has been participating in the operation against Iran for several days. Russia has been participating in the operation against Ukraine for several years.

2. Israeli aviation is bombing Iranian targets without losses and has absolute air superiority - Russian aviation is losing more aircraft than it is producing during the operation.

3. Israel has eliminated the top of Iran's military-political government. Russia cannot even attack the decision-making center, let alone eliminate the military-political government of Ukraine.

4. Israeli air defense has thwarted hundreds of missile launches, and only a few have reached their targets; Russian air defense allows light-engine agricultural aircraft to pass through it.

5. Israeli intelligence services operate in Iran as if they were at home. There is almost no activity by Russian intelligence services in Ukraine.

6. Israel attacks Iranian TV channels. Russia is unable to stop Ukrainian TV.

And when we are told that one of the countries is not yet at war, it turns out that it is in full force.

Apparently, a full-scale war for one of the sides means dumping huge amounts of freshly recruited meat onto the front, not technology.

Guess which one?

Popular Russian anti-Israeli channel:

️"Iran is preparing for the largest and most intensive missile attack in history on Israeli soil (c) Iranian media

️We are ready to attack Israel with great force (c) Fars

Meanwhile, Israel is hitting bases near Tehran with such force that the earth is shaking."

An article that received millions of views on Russian channels and was shared by senior commentators and generals:

Iran-Israel War: Lessons from the Second Night - The economics of the attack are clearly not in Iran's favor...

Both sides are clearly cautious and do not want further escalation. But each wants to save its honor in order to declare victory later. Both Israel and Iran understand that the war could drag on, and are therefore conserving their ammunition.

Hence the logic behind the actions of both Tel Aviv and Tehran.

Iran carried out two strikes (according to other sources, three). At the same time, there were five of them on the first night. And the number of missiles in each salvo was, on average, the same (the first was weaker, the second more powerful). The percentage of penetration of the Israeli missile defense system was the same as on the first night. Accordingly, the amount of destruction was smaller.

The attempt to attack with "martyrs" failed again due to their complete helplessness in the face of the aviation work and the full (albeit tacit) provision of Syrian airspace, both for the work of Israeli air defense fighters and for attacks on Iran.

Incidentally, it is worth noting that most of the Israeli civilian planes found refuge in Turkey. This once again shows the utter lack of principles of President Erdogan and his Syrian bashi-bazookas, who, albeit passively, are now helping Israel (despite official rhetoric).

At the same time, Israel itself almost did not work with night aviation against Iran. The oil depot (according to some sources, two oil depots), which was hit (hit) in the Tehran area, became a victim of drone attacks (perhaps even launched from Iranian territory itself).

Therefore, one important detail can be noted. Iran can reach and penetrate Israel's defenses only with the help of its rather expensive and not infinite (in quantity) medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBM SD). "Shahids" are cheap and almost irrelevant today. And this poses an important problem for Tehran, despite a certain information stabilization of the situation, already in the medium term. Those 2000 missiles, let's say there are 2000, and no less, even if they are released like the second night, will run out in two to three weeks. And what will the Iranians do next?

They are not able to produce them quickly (at best, a few dozen per month). And they are very expensive. It seems that Israel has learned well from the experience of the war in Ukraine and is successfully implementing it. In contrast to the Iranian leadership, which here too has shown its slowness and commitment to old and not particularly effective plans.

At the same time, Israel, which demonstrated no less visual success on the second day (although an order of magnitude less than on the previous day), managed with very cheap systems, which it can renew without problems and without external help (unless the Iranians catch their proxies and they will have to increasingly switch to long-range drones. Which, although they are an order of magnitude more expensive than FPV, are also an order of magnitude cheaper than BM SD. And most importantly, the stock can always be quickly replenished, including at the expense of the United States).

Therefore, if China does not come to its aid, Tehran will have to agree to the option offered to it in ten days. And the only thing it can achieve in this case is to save its honor, and the current regime. Which even by today's standards would be a good achievement for it.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I wonder, if it ends at some gay peace treaty, would Iran survive having its military leadership decapitated and army decimated? Any bordering country (which there are a lot of) would have carte blanche to conquer land from it with very little blowback. Especially Turkey that already did this shit with Syria.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

A single GBU-57 is rate for 200ft of penetration before detonation of its nearly 5 kT of explosives. And the B-2 can carry two of them. and the US has 20 of those. And unlike Iranian/Soviet-spec guidance systems, this one is actually accurate.

It’s rated for 60 m of penetration into dirt not rock.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Axis of resistance Twitter is insane

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That’s just existential cope. When Iran falls, it’s game over for Gaza. They’ve been hyping up Iran for decades as this military superpower that will annihilate Israel, but turns out it was all cope.

 

[Combustion Engine]

Iran can for sure build one of those, but being realistic, so can I.

It's not that far from reality, they have access to the enriched uranium, that's the most difficult requirement taken care of already for the most dumb, crude, and difficult to deliver type. There's public domain, accurate documentation on how a gun-type bomb works in detail and what the process of developing one entails. Graduate students at Berkeley could do it, and there's been some studies before estimating a group of college professors would be have a good chance at it without prior experience in designing such weapons. But you won't be putting that on a missile, and it has little use especially in the modern age outside some far-fetched terrorism scenario.

 

[Never Scored]

It's not that far from reality, they have access to the enriched uranium, that's the most difficult requirement taken care of already for the most dumb, crude, and difficult to deliver type. There's public domain, accurate documentation on how a gun-type bomb works in detail and what the process of developing one entails. Graduate students at Berkeley could do it, and there's been some studies before estimating a group of college professors would be have a good chance at it without prior experience in designing such weapons. But you won't be putting that on a missile, and it has little use especially in the modern age outside some far-fetched terrorism scenario.

Maybe Iran will nuke itself and say Israel did it.

 

[EyeGuy]

Statements on the progress of the war from the IDF Operations Directorate chief (link):

Israel's operation against Iran will not end until the IDF has removed the threat of Iran's nuclear program and ballistic missiles, the military says, but refuses to provide a timeline.

"We continue to strike nuclear targets to deepen the achievement, according to a plan and at a timing that suits us," says IDF Operations Directorate chief Maj. Gen. Oded Basiuk in a call with reporters.

The IDF says it is in the midst of the operation, and not at its end. The goal by the end is to remove the "existential threat" of the Iranian nuclear program and its missile array, it says.

"We are striking the terror regime, not the people, who deserve a better future. Those who endanger us are the leadership in Tehran, not the people walking the streets of Shiraz," Basiuk says.

The military says it will continue to strike nuclear facilities and related targets, including nuclear scientists, as well as ballistic missiles, air defenses, military command centers, and other targets that are considered "critical" to the Iranian regime.

So far, over 200 ballistic missile launchers have been destroyed or neutralized by Israeli strikes, which is a significant portion of Iran's arsenal, according to the military.

The strikes on the launchers have disrupted Iran's attempts to fire more missiles at Israel, but the IDF assesses that Iran still has the capability to launch attacks and cause devastating harm in Israel.

"We will remain prepared on defense. I assess that the Iranians will continue trying to harm Israel," Basiuk says.

Regarding Iran's nuclear program, the IDF says it has so far caused significant damage to Tehran's ability to obtain a bomb, but the efforts are not over yet. The military says it will detail what sort of damage it has done to Iran's nuclear program when the operation is over.

Basiuk says the IDF "will not allow a nuclear Iran to turn the Middle East into a graveyard."

Meanwhile, the Israeli Air Force has aerial superiority over western Iran and Tehran, after it struck numerous Iranian air defenses, but the IDF says flying over Iran is still not without risks.

An Israeli airstrike in Iran overnight targeted a secret command center used by the Iranian military's top brass, the IDF reveals.

"We neutralized the Iranian regime's main military emergency headquarters," IDF Operations Directorate chief Maj. Gen. Oded Basiuk tells reporters.

The strike caused the remaining members of Iran's military leadership to flee, according to the IDF.

Basiuk says the IDF is "prepared and ready to continue eliminating the heads of terror in Iran, one by one."

After the attack on the command center, an airstrike killed Maj. Gen. Ali Shadmani, Iran's most senior military commander, who entered the role just days earlier after his predecessor was killed by Israel.

Israel has killed the majority of Iran's top military command in its opening strikes on Friday and in the days since.

Airstrikes in western Tehran:

 

[The best and greatest]

I'm gonna spell this out just once, so people can link this tweet to the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, shit-eating simian creatures that whine about BoOtS oN tHe GrOuNd as if America's going to conduct a land invasion of Iran with eleventy gorillion troops and fight in the caves for a generation:

Factories are downstream from the government policies which put them there. There is no solution to nuclear Iran that does not depend on regime change which would all but require 'BoOtS oN tHe GrOuNd'

 

[Ghostse]

Maybe they just like looking at it.

The white noise from the centrifuges helps the Ayatollah sleep. He was into ASMR before anyone coined the term.

I wonder, if it ends at some gay peace treaty, would Iran survive having its military leadership decapitated and army decimated? Any bordering country (which there are a lot of) would have carte blanche to conquer land from it with very little blowback. Especially Turkey that already did this shit with Syria.

Yes they will survive. Iran still has a lot of steel and the land doesn't lend itself well to invasion. Turkey is the only country with the population and hardware to potentially pull itoff, and they'd have to go through Iraq first.
Pakistan beefs with Iran, but not to the level they are going to go boots onthe ground especially not after just throwing hands with India.

Saudi Arabia is very unlikely to try to to invade, as Sunni Saudia Arabia invading Shia Iran without significant cause is going to cause a Muslim civil war. Saudia Arabia would be most likely to just enough having Iran as their bitch - basically Iran gets uppity, SA just does IDF style bombing to sack tap them. (or tries to. I knew a guy who trained Saudi pilots and... did not have good things to say about their ability)

They don't border China or Russia, so gay clown world means they will persist so long as their internal security remains strong.

 

[Xev]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of those fighter jet pilots went into hiding because they don't want to get shot out of the sky.

 

[EyeGuy]

Tehran:

 

[Bork Laser]

Let me ask a question here I've been curious about: Why did it take Iran so fucking long to build a bomb? And it can't just be their goatfuckers. India has them, Pakistan and even North Korea. Where they hoping on building something better? Why not at least make something that was regional instead of Intercontinental. I know building a nuke isn't an east task but the fucking Koreans did it and have been waving it in our faces for years. Just having one, no matter how limited, would have been enough to make anyone pause for a second before attacking.

 

[Breadbassket]

Let me ask a question here I've been curious about: Why did it take Iran so fucking long to build a bomb? And it can't just be their goatfuckers. India has them, Pakistan and even North Korea. Where they hoping on building something better? Why not at least make something that was regional instead of Intercontinental. I know building a nuke isn't an east task but the fucking Koreans did it and have been waving it in our faces for years. Just having one, no matter how limited, would have been enough to make anyone pause for a second before attacking.

Since 2010, a number of Iranian nuclear scientists have been assassinated so perhaps that has to do with it.

 

[Combustion Engine]

Chinese embassy in Tehran seen evacuating. They also advised Chinese nationals to do the same. (source)