2025 Israel vs Iran War

I am not emotionally invested in either side of this conflict. However, for anyone with an IQ above room temperature, the deranged reactions to @Catch_The_Rainbow posting up-to-date info is fantastic propaganda for Israel.

Yes, yelling about the "kike faggots" (or whatever) is edgy and earns Internet points. However, normal Americans, etc. (1) like to seem well informed, and (2) would not be caught dead being associated with antisemitism. So this actively, aggressively repels people into being pro-Israel.

We see this nonsense over and over again, from the American Nazi Party to Students for Justice in Palestine. The behavior and speech of the "anti-Zionists" do more to improve public perception of Israel than AIPAC ever could.

I hope no one other than Null (PBUH) gets their opinions from KF. Nevertheless, if you're an anti-Zionist and CTR is a Zionist shill, then why are you actively helping him?
 
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From everything I've read, Iran wants to basically go status quo ante bellum, Israel stops bombing, Iran stops shooting missiles, Iran and the US go back to negotiating, everyone acts like the last week didn't habben

Which obviously Netanyajoo isn't going to accept, and it sounds like Trump thinks Iran was stringing him along so he will want some concessions from Iran just to start talking again
Mr. Art of the deal isn't going to consider anything Iran says other than you do what I want or they sneak one out in the forth quarter and find even a small amout of leverage to bargain with. Maybe Ayatollah can Putin to ask for the pee blackmail tapes, other than that I think they're quite fucked.

I encourage all who support israel to go there and stay there
I implore you to move to Canada.
 
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That's my main issue with those lot. It not only gives near-omnipotence to Jews as a people, but nobody is capable of doing anything because you'll be killed, overthrown, or subverted by the almighty Juden.
Jewish control comes out of three major points. I dont think there is genuinely any real argument against these, I've never seen pro-Israel types or Jews actually do it, they instantly just cry "Antisemitism" and "Antisemitic tropes" and run to mods which is very telling honestly.

1: Holocaust industry. Jews and Zionists successfully leveraged the Holocaust based on Christian victim morality, to create the idea that Jews are more moral and innocent than the average person, because they are history's biggest victims. Because Westerners based on Christianity inherently view Victim = Innocent. This becomes the basis of the Holocaust Industry and Jewish ideological simping. The Holocaust wasn't bad because it was a Genocide, the Holocaust was bad, because it happened to the most innocent, dindunuttin's perfect victims, and we need to atone for our sins towards them. (Note, Judaism is explicity against this victim worship behaviour. Also don't even get me started on the hyper manipulative Judeo-Christian bullshit)

2: Jews are on average, extremely elite and fabulously wealthy. Jewish people are the most wealthy ethnic group in the Western world by a margin, and they dominate pretty much every Establishment and elite career. They are industry leaders, they are political leaders, they are lawyers, top of finance, etc. This leads to a general WASP elite solidarity with Jewish people, over working class or average non-Jewish people, because frankly, elites interact probably with Jews, more than any other Demographic. The fact I also kind of know this is the case, is because you can watch the exact same dynamic start to play out with Brahman Indians as they now shoot up to 2/3rds of Jewish average wealth.

3: Again Jews are on average, extremely elite and fabulously wealthy. Jewish people are the most wealthy ethnic group in the Western world by a margin, and they dominate pretty much every Establishment and elite career. They are industry leaders, they are political leaders, they are lawyers, top of finance, etc. This makes Jews, frankly, the powerbrokers of Western Capitalist society. Go against Jews and your career can be over, pretty much overnight. Jewish elites literally had Screen trucks with blacklists on them, driving around Harvard, with names of people who criticized Israel, saying they are now blacklisted from pretty much entire fields/industries. The reason you actually see a lot of antisemitism among Black entertainment industry types, is quite literally, they have to suck the dick of Jews at the top of the media industry and they can end you immediately. Even apparently MJ seethed over this behind the scenes and he was basically a cult leader of much of the youth of the time. Mark Liebler is one of the legends of the Israel lobby, and he named his autobiography, "The Powerbroker" and it's basically about how WASP political elites from across the Anglosphere, would grovel at his feet, he apparently had more access to PMs and Presidents, than even their own cabinet ministers did.

It's not that hard to understand why there is enormous Jewish power in society. The fact people dance around this reality, like, average people, is pretty crazy to me. We have to play this absolute bullshit game where elite Evangelical nutters get blamed, for all the psychotic pro-Israel and Judaism bootlicking in society. Despite it's easy to see that Jewish/Israeli cocksucking and bootlicking goes well beyond any political or elite demographic that has any connection at all to Evangelical Americans. Why is it not "Christianphobic" to say Christians have elite networks pulling strings in business and politics, but it's "Antisemitic" to even point out Jews bragging about them doing this stuff?
 
Alright, let me tell you something.

You’re the worst country I know. You constantly steal your neighbor’s land, the same people who sheltered your ancestors for centuries, and this is how you repay them? And to add insult to injury, you bulldoze their homes, bomb their kids, and then act like they’re the terrorists. You’re such a hypocrite. You take billions in U.S. aid, then turn around and spy on us, hack our elections, and when called out, you just say "Anti-Semitism!" like that excuses everything.

And what really pisses me off is how you pretend to be this enlightened democracy, this "only democracy in the Middle East," but all you do is run an apartheid state. Yeah, other dictators kill their own people, but at least they’re honest about it. You don’t get to dress up ethnic cleansing as "self-defense" while waving around the Holocaust like a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Six million died in the Shoah—I get it, it was horrific—but that doesn’t give you the right to do the same to Palestinians. You know what’s disgusting? How you act like any criticism of Netanyahu is a hate crime, but then your settlers throw rocks at Palestinian farmers while your army watches and laughs.

And don’t even get me started on your "most moral army in the world" bullshit. Oh yeah, real moral—sniping medics, bombing U.N. schools, white-phosphorus’ing civilians. But hey, as long as you tweet out a slick propaganda video afterward, I guess it’s fine, right?

And I think what I hate most about you? Your textbook victim complex. How "the whole world is against us," how "Hamas started it," how "we have no choice but to flatten Gaza." Well, what have you done to actually make peace? Oh right—nothing. You just keep building settlements, breaking treaties, and then crying "Why does everyone hate us?"

You could’ve been a real beacon of justice, a light unto the nations. But instead? You’re just a violent, paranoid, ethno-state with a PR team. That’s the worst of it, Israel—you’re not just cruel, you’re pathetic.

Thanks for nothing.
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