2025 Israel vs Iran War

Grug like big boom-boom. Grug want see fireworks and say “wow” with Steve. Grug wonder what air-fried mammoth taste like…
Grug is maybe the last old style Democrat on the national scene. Yay for the unions yay for the government but if you don't like someone and they don't like you then beating them up is a good way to handle it. Grug like smashing Iron City bottle on jagoff's skull
 
Fordow only has a few entrances, right? Wouldn't it be a huge pain to get anything out of it if those entrances specifically were bombed? Of course it's not a permanent solution, but not much you can do if a shitton of rocks and debris is blocking your only means of exit
 
Its not so much One-of-a-kind. The GBU-57 deep penetrator (giggity), if you remove the guidance system (and unlike the GBU-37 lacks the cool void detection abilities so nothing to remove there) its not hard to make. There is a hollow steel penetrator and then an exposive charge. Its (again, removing the guidance system) not all that expensive.

But it is heavy and requires extreme heavy lift. Only the largest bombers in the US fleet can drop them, the GBU-57 is too big and heavy for even a C-130 iirc. I don't think Israel has the craft and even if thye did, a cargo plane turned bomber is going to show up distinctly on RADAR and Iran would have hours to get ready - and they'd know where it was going.

Additionally, Fordow is Iran's main nuclear materials handing site. There is almost certain to be some sort of Radiological escape if it is hit. Its expected Iran will not have the ability to clean up. That's some very bad PR and might straing relations if that radiation leaves Iran.
I believe only the B-2 is currently capable of fielding it and you’re probably right about the radiation risks, but there are other nuclear sites that have been struck so maybe the IAF isn’t worried about it, but the US might care.
 
It depends on personal definitions. To me the IRA are terrorists, not freedom fighters, who killed children and then same terrorists would form Sinn Fein and get elected to government, but the IRA are beloved in America. Insurgent, rebel, terrorist, etcetera, are all couched in how one judges and frames the actions of the people involved. Israel's paramilitary leaders would eventually go on to find positions in government, some serving as prime ministers.
I generally agree with this but the IRA were heroes, not terrorists. Only thing they did wrong was put down their guns. But anyway yeah, if I was a Palestinian who had every right to hate Israel I'd probably love Hamas and Hezbollah. It's human nature to turn a blind eye to the sins those on your side commit.
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Iran releases a threatening video of a man stroking a nuclear bomb
Gayest shit I've seen today.
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In the name of #Heydar, the battle begins

Ali returns to #Khyber with his Zulfiqar

Khaybar was the Jewish town that Muhammad betrayed and murdered
Ok you see now this, this is cool. Post stuff like this, not whatever that faggotry was. You can't win a war if you look like a complete loser.
 
I believe only the B-2 is currently capable of fielding it and you’re probably right about the radiation risks, but there are other nuclear sites that have been struck so maybe the IAF isn’t worried about it, but the US might care.
Dilution and distance makes everything a nonissue.
 
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I don't support nuclear weapons in general, but it's really just, frankly, willful ignorance, to believe that the Middle-East, which has had a power vacuum since at least the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, must remain that way.

Sooner or later, that vacuum has to be filled, and whether or not we like it, Iran is the closest to filling that vacuum.

It ain't Israel, and it ain't Iraq, and it ain't Saudi Arabia. It's Iran.

And it's obvious to me that any regime change by Isradl or the USA is merely an attempt to stop Iran's position of filling the power vacuum, and projecting Israeli power.

But the fact of the matter is that no self-respecting Moslem will ever consider Israel as the dominant power in the region.

Long-term in order to stabilize the Middle-East either Iran, or maybe Saudi Arabia, must fill the power vacuum.

Plugging Israel to fill the power vacuum is like asking a Moslem to convert to Judaism.
 
Christians should put the needs of the United States over Christianity, in that case.
Even though they don't share an ethnicity half the time, Jews still see their religion as also being their ethnicity, even if they're black. Islam, similarly, still regards all Muslims as being apart of the Ummah, which means they'll still show solidarity with one another even if they were at each other's throats prior because non-Muslims are typically always one above on their shit-list compared to the most recent enemy that week. Christianity differs thanks to the all the differing denominations and sub-denominations, lack of unified scriptural language (Jews learn Hebrew, Muslims learn Arabic), multiple scriptural interpretations (the Islamic schism between Shia and Sunni was an issue of succession, not doctrinal difference - those occurred later) and a much less grim tone to its teachings and stories in comparison to Islam and Judaism.

I think the Catholics tend to be the closest in regard to Jews and Muslims in viewing themselves as being apart of one global community thanks to entities like the Pope/Vatican, which is why it attracts a lot of Larpers since it's also viewed as white solidarity too or something. Protestantism helped Europeans to assert their independence and thus their own national identities, whereas other races, communities and the like took a but longer to establish their own national/cultural conscious (one example is how pre-1600s, Bibles would only be printed in Latin and thus be interpreted by the clergy, who were educated to speak it (this was pretty common - in Islam the Quran was also written only in Quranic, in spite of linguistic advancements in Arabic). The reformation period saw the proliferation of bibles printed in native languages which contributed to the fostering of a shared identity around a common language in opposition to those who couldn't speak it - the typically Italian speaking church. It contributed both to European national identity but would eventually depreciate religion's role in society for the most part.
 
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Claiming to have complete control of the skies while Tehran is being bombed is hilarious
Sandniggers are always good for a laugh.


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What's less understandable to me is why you think all Jews have this sort of hivemind
Israel almost tore itself apart with the issue of judicial reforms that most people thought needed to happen but the question of how much to actually reform had people protesting every weekend for 30 weeks. We can barely control a Jewish country. let alone the world
 
Anyone else think it’s weird that Trump has explained exactly how he’s going to take out the Fordo site like he’s a villain in a movie?

He’s either bluffing, stupid, or they’re going to take it out another way.
 
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