2025 Israel vs Iran War

Screamer_2 said:
When considering this, it's also worth noting the way NATO handled descalation negotiations around Ukraine. There's Boris Johnson getting Ukraine to back out of peace negotiations. The Minsk 2 accords were NATO delaying the war to build UK Ukraine's defences and was a pretence of an attempt at stopping it.

It's not new to Trump but with everything Trump. He just tells you how the sausage is made. People get outraged he openly drops the pretense.
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Trump has proven himself to be one of the only anti-war world leaders with how he has continued to try to actually de-escalate the ukraine/Russia situation while every other world leader does everything they can to increase the bloodshed and throw more ukrainians into the wood chipper in hopes it will lead to enough popular support to do full scale war on Russia.

I think he is less successful in Iran/Israel situation because so many in his admin have full allegiance to Israel, unlike in ukraine where mostly no one cares they exist and so its just a big larp because ukrainians are basically just illiterate self-loathing Russians and there only value is as pawns to try to manufacture consent for war with the Ruskies.
 
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That Guy Who Likes The Chili said:
I can't find anything in this thread due to all the Pro vs Anti Skub bullshit, did Iran pull off their big suprise tonight or is the Supreme Leader still a Supremely Impotent faggot like always?
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Iran's been unable to do anything more impressive that throw poorly guided missiles in miniscule amounts.
 
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31. Januar said:
I somehow doubt that a text from 1983 written by a (((Larry J. Simon))) from fucking UCLA has the full, comprehensive view on this topic.
More than the author's potential ethnicity though, the sheer age of this text is what really makes it seem questionable. When dealing with dark age history a 400 year gap is at least more acceptable: At the very best one might say that contemporary direct jewish involvement with the Almoravids and taifas would be what coloured this interpretation.

Which actually changes almost nothing, and in fact makes it more likely that the jews did indeed assist the invasion of Visigothic Spain, not less, because they ended up in a position of power afterwars.


Historiography must continually advance to construct more accurate visions of the past, and I strongly suspect this old 80s text will be just as Lachrymose as something you might see from the ADL today.
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but your mishmash of unsourced assertions and coping is full and comprehensive, much better than a sourced scholarly article with almost six full pages of citations that you obviously didn't read

it must be frustrating when you can conveniently handwave anything you dont like with "no a jew wrote it" and yet you still fail at every level in your struggle against the hebraics. oh wait you don't even know if a jew wrote it, it's "potential" :story:

anyway apparently the big boom in the east of tehran earlier was not an oil depot, now they're saying it was a large missile factory
 
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Million Dollar Word said:
doesn't take being an "Aryan"
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Don't be coy. I know all about "White Sharia". Every wignat leader from Varg Vikernes to Richard Spencer to Mike Enoch to Nick Fuentes have sung praise to Jihadism as the salvation of the white race.

And "Iran" refers to the "Aryan" race. You know, the ancient proto-streetshitters that Himmler swore were the True and Honest Hyperborean Volk?

Enough. I will have no more of this Ayrab nonsense.
Million Dollar Word said:
Other than the fact that Iran is probably the most secular of the remaining Islamic countries
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HAW HAW HAW HAW

They're literally ruled by the Muzzie equivalent of an archbishop, dude. Calling Iran secular is like calling North Korea open and transparent.
 
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urr13 account said:
Trump has proven himself to be one of the only anti-war world leaders with how he has continued to try to actually de-escalate the ukraine/Russia situation while every other world leader does everything they can to increase the bloodshed and throw more ukrainians into the wood chipper in hopes it will lead to enough popular support to do full scale war on Russia.

I think he is less successful in Iran/Israel situation because so many in his admin have full allegiance to Israel, unlike in ukraine where mostly no one cares they exist and so its just a big larp because ukrainians are basically just illiterate self-loathing Russians and there only value is as pawns to try to manufacture consent for war with the Ruskies.
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It is also just geopolitics and somewhat of a continuation of the cold war with Russia because an actual war with Russia unless you're forced into it is fucking stupid. Russia attacking Ukraine is them making a move on the global chessboard, allowing Israel to topple Iran is a recapture in the sense of you're basically just trading pawns if Russia succeeds in their "special military operation."
While Russia's military does look far worse than most people imagined; Putin is still a crazy fuck with an arsenal of nuclear weapons. Even if you don't like Israel, toppling Iran is indirectly hurting Russia's influence and powerbase globally.
 
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autistic dog said:
If Iran fires missiles at the US what's the over under on an intercept? On one hand its far away so there is more time to stop them and the US is huge with plenty of empty space so it would be hilarious if they hit nothing or like a cow. On the other hand we don't have an iron dome.
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iran doesnt have missiles that can reach any US territory. their longest range missile can reach the balkans
 
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Meat Target said:
Unless they send some IRGC thugs to throw it over the Mexican border.
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i think that would be pretty hard considering the size of the missiles we're talking about. getting one to mexico without anyone knowing would be an impressive feat considering how the mossad appears to have its fingers so far up iran's ass they're coming out the ayatollah's ears
 
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The gulf countries clearly supports what Israel is doing, but they don’t want to get involved cause there’s huge potential of nuclear radiation reaching to them (Kuwait, Qatar, Uae,Eastern of Saudi) and contaminating their water supply, so the best they could do is the army deals they made back in may.
 
31. Januar said:
They fired off some Faddah-1 missiles supposedly, that's new.
Which could actually be very important, but only time will tell.
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Digging through the couch cushions I guess. I think we had two verified Faddah-2s used earlier. No verified Kheibars AFAIK.

I'm certain Israel only moved when they knew they could destroy the vast majority of Iran's advanced missile reserves in the first strike.
 
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