2025 Israel vs Iran War

OrangeManeXTinyHatGVNG said:
B2 can drop it correct?
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Yes. B2 can carry two of them at the same time.

Seething Troon Collector said:
I believe only the B-2 is currently capable of fielding it and you’re probably right about the radiation risks, but there are other nuclear sites that have been struck so maybe the IAF isn’t worried about it, but the US might care.
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B-2 is the only aircraft certified for dropping it.

Strictly speaking you could put on a C-5 galaxy but I have no idea how you'd drop it and you'd need to rework the targeting hardware. Likewise IIRC the B-52 could get airborne with one (I think upto two) but I believe there are issues with the B-52's bombbay hardware not ready to support that much weight concentrated in a single package so you'd need to reengineer new bombbay to distribute the weight. And I THINK you'd need to update/addon to the sensor suite.

I believe the B-1 would have the lift but the package is too big for the bays

Basically these are problems the USAF has never bothered (officially) solving because they figure if you're busting out massive bunkerfucker, you are wanting a decapitation strike so you'd need the stealth bomber anyway. If you are using B-52s/C130s/B-1s and need to fuck something that deep in the earth, you can just use several of the more readily available & easier to handle GBU-37s

re: The nuclear release, most of what Israel is hitting is lower-purity feeder centrifuges on the surface: easier to get in and contain, just uranium isn't "instant death/cancer toxic". Fordow is the higher enrichment, there is a possibility of "spontaneous fission", and there is a possibility of Plutonium. But more importantly IIRC there is concerns about radiation getting into the ground water.
 
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Supplemental Authority said:
I re-watched the segment with Cruz. I don't see the scoop. Cruz says, "We are carrying out military strikes today." He then clarifies that "we" refers to Israel (actually conducting the strikes) and the U.S. (in a supporting role). Maybe I'm too close to these things, but was there ever doubt that the U.S. would provide intelligence, munitions, etc. in support of Israel's strikes on Iran? This is what Trump means when he talks about knowing where the Ayatollah is, or the superiority of U.S. weapons over Iranian air defenses. "We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran."
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The United States is not officially involved in this war as of June 15th, it's why I linked that specific article in my other post. Obviously the conflict is moving fast, and I believe most people with any knowledge of geopolitics would assume that any war Israel gets into will receive support from the United States. At the same time, there's pretty stark outcry from the MAGA base as they'd like to avoid yet another long term Middle East conflict; a topic that is quickly turning into an inflamed wound that Trump's political opposition is repeatedly picking at, as undermining faith in the man is an undeniable and ongoing effort.

The highest echelons of power in U.S. society would love nothing more than for the public to revert back to George Carlin style "every candidate sucks, never have hope!" doomerism, as it provides the least resistance (especially unpredictable resistance) to whatever they'd like to orchestrate. Trump's importance in domestic politics has less to do with him being some kind of Christ-like chessmaster (he's competent, but he isn't that) and more to do with his demagoguery resurrecting various grassroots notions among the public that are inconvenient to wannabe Pharisees. It takes a lot of work to control a population, and that's increasingly difficult as frank discussions are allowed to take place in the mainstream.

Tucker has a storied history of covering "the stories he's meant to", not just on Fox News but elsewhere. Only when he and his writers began to prod at more interesting stuff did his popularity explode, which in itself should tell you there is a need for the kind of journalism he's pursuing. People are hung up on the Iran's population gotcha, the real meat of that clip is Cruz admitting that when Israel says jump, the U.S. asks how high. Even the peace-loving, nationalist president who wants to avoid war and death does that.
 
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Supplemental Authority said:
Where I come from, it is considered polite to say something nice or conciliatory after harshly criticizing someone. I'm sorry that this courtesy has so rankled you. For my part, I think everyone is capable of redemption -- even you. You might start by giving up some of that spiteful hate in your heart against someone you only know from TV.
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There aren’t enough rainbows on Earth for a sucker like you, crushing on an elitist talking head you only know from TV who wouldn’t piss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
It gets worse...

The Israel planning chief at the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Col. Nathan McCormack, believes that Israel is a "death cult," America's "worst ally" and seeks to "cleanse ‘Eretz Israel’ of ethnic Palestinians," according to his semi-anonymous X account.

Experts told me his posts revealing travel, conversations with foreign partners and "anti-Israel rants" were "gobsmacking," "dangerous," "out of place in a Pentagon" that works so closely with Israel, and potential foreign intelligence threat.


A groyper was in charge of Israel planning at the jsc
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this is a position that's pretty widespread among the american population and i dont think the normies that say this stuff know anything about the politics circuit, they just see a few things on tik tok and form a very basic opinion. the reason that most americans think that israel has some occult tomfoolery behind it likely has more to do with bush era israeli agitprop than it has to do with nick fuentes
 
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Million Dollar Word said:
Ok, how are Christians in Syria doing now in the new ZOG approved "democracy" in Syria versus under Assad? "Treated like shit" is lot different than being targeted and killed. It's insane that we have gotten to the point in Western civilization that we now view a native majority being the focus of their government over fringe minority groups as some sort of grave injustice.

All of this completely misses my point, which is that Israel/ZOG prefers to have fundamental Islamists in power versus a Middle Eastern government that behaves more in the manner of a secular state.
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Agree, also as an interesting thought experiment, when was the last time there was a Shiite terrorist attack against civilians in Europe or the US who weren't Israeli? I think it might actually be never but go ahead and prove me wrong.
 
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Lorne Armstrong said:
There aren’t enough rainbows on Earth for a sucker like you, crushing on an elitist talking head you only know from TV who wouldn’t piss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire.
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My brother in Christ, I ain't gonna phonebook myself to win an argument on the Farms. In case I was too subtle the first time: go away, get some help.
 
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merpalerpaherp said:
A shit ton, the problem is launchers. Israel has been pretty good at destroying them and it makes it very complicated for Iran to organize large barrages. When we do see those small strange barrages of like 3 missiles it's because they're getting fucked back in Iran.
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Makes sense, Israel and America are burning through their missile interceptor supply right now so it's better to destroy the means of firing them.
 
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big pauper said:
this is a position that's pretty widespread among the american population and i dont think the normies that say this stuff know anything about the politics circuit, they just see a few things on tik tok and form a very basic opinion. the reason that most americans think that israel has some occult tomfoolery behind it likely has more to do with bush era israeli agitprop than it has to do with nick fuentes
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I refer to him as a groyper due to his extensive Twitter presence where he power leveled too hard.
 
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COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST said:
The United States is not officially involved in this war as of June 15th, it's why I linked that specific article in my other post.
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You raise a fair point re: the diplomatic cable. (I missed this link in your post. Thanks for flagging it.) It's hard to parse without having the full cable, but from the quotes provided, this seems just to confirm that the U.S. is not itself striking Iran ("the U.S. military remains in a defensive posture") and is not providing logistical support for Israel's air strikes (e.g., "tanker support"). I agree that the cable seems... strategically ambiguous.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
It gets worse...

The Israel planning chief at the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Col. Nathan McCormack, believes that Israel is a "death cult," America's "worst ally" and seeks to "cleanse ‘Eretz Israel’ of ethnic Palestinians," according to his semi-anonymous X account.

Experts told me his posts revealing travel, conversations with foreign partners and "anti-Israel rants" were "gobsmacking," "dangerous," "out of place in a Pentagon" that works so closely with Israel, and potential foreign intelligence threat.


A groyper was in charge of Israel planning at the jsc
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Honestly not surprising, watch your White brothers die and get maimed in Zionist wars of aggression enough times and this is the logical conclusion. I'm sure there's a lot more like him.

It actually isn't surprising that Israel is pulling this now, this is pretty much the standard opinion of any right-wing White man under 50 and the leftists and non-Whites already hate them. They only have a couple of decades until the the last of the boomers kick the bucket and it's going to get harder and harder to force a Neocon back into office as the country becomes browner.
 
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