2025 Israel vs Iran War

Except that you merged or bankrupted most of the companies innovating, laid off or retired most of the R&D big brains, and shut off the military industrial research pipeline from universities. Bill Clinton absolutely has most of the blame.
US built it's MIC out of civilian companies during WW2. There were few "Defense Contractors" and most war production was done by civilian companies.
If US brought back it's manufacturing and resurrected the Ordinance system that allowed US to militarize it's industry during WW2 then it could get rid of suckling pigs like Boeing and Lockheed.
 
# IRANIAN MINISTER SAYS HE WROTE LETTER TO BRICS AND CALLS ON BRICS TO INTERVENE

**In the Name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful

The vulgar and insulting behavior of the notorious U.S. President and the bloodthirsty prime minister of the Zionist regime—who threatened to assassinate the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Grand Ayatollah Khamenei (may his shadow be extended)—has further exposed the wicked and vile nature of these disgraces to humanity and sources of shame to mankind.

Since the ignorant American President and the vile Zionist prime minister lack any understanding of spiritual matters and the exalted position of Shi'a religious authority, and view all affairs through their worldly, materialist lens, they imagine that such outrageous remarks against the Supreme Leader will go unanswered. They think they can attract public attention through media uproar and propaganda, masking their failures in Gaza, Lebanon, and across the brave axis of resistance, and covering up their shattered dream of overthrowing the sacred Islamic Republic of Iran—only to escape from the crisis of their own making.
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But what a delusion that is!

The message of the Assembly of Experts—an institution born of the people’s vote and rooted in the principles of the Constitution—at this critical juncture to the excessive rhetoric and brazen threats of the bullying American president and the murderous, loathsome prime minister of the illegitimate Zionist regime toward Grand Ayatollah Khamenei (may his shadow endure) is this:

O disgraced ones of history in the 21st century, know that the people of our nation and all the free people of the world—Muslim and non-Muslim alike—recognize the wise and powerful Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran as a man of peace, a supporter of the oppressed, and a steadfast opponent of global arrogance. They will not tolerate the slightest insult to this luminous and divine Leader, and will respond to any aggression against him in the strongest way possible—making this vast world so narrow for you that you will wish for death with each passing day.

Mohammad Ali Movahedi Kermani
On behalf of the Assembly of Experts**
 
Still running, not sure how live streams work as far as linking them, but this is pretty related. Tucker has Ted Cruz on, pretty combative.

Cruz filibustering shows how different his posturing is compared to Forbes

>"Is AIPAC aligned to the interests of Israel?"
I'll answer for Cruz. Yes, they are paralleled.
They are no different than the Arab PACs that donate in our elections too.

>"Is Israel controlling the US foreign policy?"
Also yes. Neocons are staunch Pro-Zionists.

Edit: It is also apparent that some Gentiles get tangled in their own pilpuling.
Edit: Also apparently Cruz thinks Jews calling themselves Israel means that they are confirmed Israel and need our unconditional support. The Scofield Bible really ruined America.
 
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Look any regime that made its raison d'etre to shout 'death to America' 'Death to Israel' cant very well surrender to the yanks/Jews and hope to remain in power.

They needs a honorable out where they agree to everything (at a minimum some weapons limits, and no nukes) but still look like they fought a good fight. Hopefully the US doesn't force them into taking a knee because they would then have no choice but to resist.
I think it's pretty unlikely they'll give up their nuclear ambitions. Gaddafi did so and how'd that work out for him? He ended up beaten to death with a rebar up his arse.

None of the leaders of these, let's say "belligerent" countries want to give up their nukes, and not only that, they will point at the above example of why they have no desire to do so. And I don't blame them one iota for it.
 
Moving on to your assertion that Israeli wars have been "unjust" in some way, I implore you to clarify exactly which wars they have fought were most unjust and why.
All of that being said, how genuinely barbaric the Arabs are, and the crucible Israel was forged in, makes me respect them more than I would, say, Iran, and it makes me understand their extreme, overwhelming paranoia.
Israel wins wars because they fight dirty. People bitch and seethe about it, evidently oblivious to the fact that war and statecraft are not noble or decent businesses. They're sausage factories where you have to get your hands dirty.

You can seethe about it all you want until you're blue in the face, and perhaps even be justified in doing so. But it won't change their behavior or get you the outcome you want. It simply is how reality works.

"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
 
While it’s undeniably true that Israel has been militarily successful and is "winning" wars fought on its territory, the blunt assertion that ‘the right to victory and the spoils’ is the oldest and most fundamental right reduces a deeply complex, tragic conflict to a crude hobbesian cliche. War is not justice; it is the failure of justice. To claim legitimacy solely through conquest overlooks the moral and historical grievances that persist and fester, and that no amount of ‘victory’ can erase. Yes, Israel ‘won’ wars, but winning the land does not mean winning the peace, nor does it constitute a blank check to dismiss the legitimate aspirations and sufferings of others as ‘bitching.’
This tragic and complex conflict is like all the others in history. They all happened to real people for confused, painful reasons. But I wrote this largely in contestation to claims of Israel's legitimacy being the product of theft, dishonesty, trickery, or somehow that Israel was less legitimate for being established as it was. This is the bitching I was talking about.

All states get founded on violence and appropriation, and I meant to establish that Israel has established its legitimacy in the manner of all states, and it had maintained it and demonstrated its governance and mastery of its territory. Israel is not even exceptionally nationalistic, tribal, or violent considering its strategic situation and highly contested legitimacy. Countries with Israel's diversity in that region crumble into crude, familial autocracy almost as surely as the sun rises in the East. It's a real, respectable state that is not a blight on human development, or a repressive cage destroying the destiny of its citizens. It is by some ethical standards for war frequently mistreating a hostile alien refugee population in its borders that is clearly politically organized towards Israel and its sponsors' destruction. I do not care at all about Palestinian nationalism and see it as a sad, doomed affair fought for no reason by an intransigent group of nihilistic cultists of one stripe or another holding a small territory hostage, determined to sink the ship and take everyone with them.

More broadly on the point of political history--I don't know of a political prehistory that explains the nature of states without getting down to the crude Hobbesian cliches. Legitimacy at some fundamental level is related to force, directed internally to the polity to have order, and externally to other polities to secure survival. States make war, war makes states. States do do other things of course, but like peace, states are the product of war, formed out of necessity when organizing men and arms for violence at a sufficient scale and intensity. There are other, different forms of peaceful and violent complex human association that are likely much older than states, that are political and associative and voluntary--clans, tribes, warbands, markets, trades and handicraft, art, language, agriculture, all of these things appear to predate any records of states. Of course extant history is limited by the durability of materials records are left on, but clearly humans went from a period of no states to many, powerful, states with exceptional privileges over all other human organizations, and a key aspect is that these organizations are founded on force and guaranteed through coercion in many dimensions, sustained by indefinite expropriation. States are a particular period in the whole span of human history, perhaps not eternal, but they are definitely founded by violence and justified by violence and sustained by violence, though the violence is restrained increasingly in liberal states. Israel's campaign so far in Iran has been surprisingly bloodless, precision warfare is much more ethical than the indiscriminate bombing of the past.
 
Iran has fired a new type of missile, claiming that it will "penetrate the impregnable Zionist defenses." Analysts are calling this new weapon the Spermnik for its similarities to the Oreshnik.
The US is gonna be collecting a ton of intel on how to combat these new missiles in case China, Poopistan and other forces try and use em.
 
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No donations by Kate Hikes or Nate Higgers you filthy casuals. Let the man fry in peace.
 
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Iran has fired a new type of missile, claiming that it will "penetrate the impregnable Zionist defenses."
SpaceX of middle east. That looks like above atmospheric rocket. Incredible
 
Thats a future problem. The more pressing immediate problem is not having enough weapons to prosecute today's war. Arguably having fancier and more sophisticated missile technology is moot if you cant produce them in sufficient quantity to make a difference. How're those Russian Armata tanks doing incidentally?
You should ideally be doing both. Developing just wunderwaffe without the strong military backbone to defend them ends with those wunderwaffe going to the guy that kicks your head in. But not advancing leads to you just being unprepared for paradigm changes in war, and without the ability to stop them.
 
Iran has fired a new type of missile, claiming that it will "penetrate the impregnable Zionist defenses."
Most likely a Fattah-1. It can operate outside the earth's atmosphere if the target is at extreme range.

It makes it a lot easier to intercept though. The THAAD systems deployed in Israel are a lot better than the bottle rockets we've been seeing on most videos.
 
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