2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Burnt Fish]

her mind is literally physically incapable of accepting a world where there are people worse off than her for any reason other than there being a greater amount of huwite supremacy in that region.

yeah but Null, a bakery told her no one time.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I don't think that anyone wants a big release of radioactive material, so turning the nuclear processing plant into a gas cloud might be a hard sell. The Israelis might be trying everything they can before resorting to asking for deep ground penetrating bombs.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

DoD statement on Goodridge
DoD statement on Gonzalez

Goodridge was under 10th Mountain and Gonzalez was 101 Airborne. Both are stated to be 'noncombat' deaths. My friend at Drum didn't know Goodridge and hasn't heard anything.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Really? After all this time thats as far as they've been able to go. Holy fuck. They've been at this since the 1950s.

It's about strategy, not ability. If they can enrich uranium to 60% they can get it to 90%. It is significantly more difficult and time consuming to get to 60% from scratch than to get from 90% from 60%. Remember this.

What they're doing, and I should be clear that this is the prevailing opinion of analysts, not stated doctrine, is that they are intentionally enriching uranium to 60% and stockpiling it, to maintain enough deniability to say "teehee, it isn't even weapons grade, chud! We are truly running a peaceful nuclear program!" The obvious problem is that 60% isn't used for anything except to refine it further to weapons grade, but it's just far enough away that a country like the US might not blow your shit up for making nukes. The other thing is that warheads are useless unless you have a delivery system, which is the other part of the strategy, they refine a bunch of uranium up to 60%, stockpile it, then work on implosion tests, miniturization, and delivery vehicles, and then once you have warhead designs you are fairly certain work, and missiles or planes to deliver them, then you reprocess all that 60% into weapons grade, and virtually overnight you have a small arsenal of nuclear weapons.

They did a cold test in 2003 under project amad

Which virtually confirms what I said above, which is quite concerning.

The timeline should be "Iran is X many years away from the bomb, unless we do something!"

Yeah this is something people should remember as well. Israel has kept warning about how close Iran is to nuclear weapons, but they have also aggressively sabotaged their program, from a man in the middle attack on their centrifuges, to stuxnet, to just straight up shooting so, so many of their scientists.

 

[cans.wav]

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

If Israel's missiles alongside some diplomatic pressure from some Euros and the US are able to enact regime change, that'd be rather impressive.

If the Ayatollah's bend the knee beforehand, is regime change even a necessity?

Emperor of Japan, while largely a figurehead tbf, bent the knee and got to keep the throne even after unconditional surrender.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

Who gives a fuck?

With a name like Goldberg I would expect her to be very worldly concerning the affairs of Israel.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

NYT: Iran is open to talks with the U.S., a senior diplomat says, even as the supreme leader rejects the idea.​

Senior Iranian MFA official to NYT: Iran will accept President Trump’s offer to meet soon​

Trump Privately Approved Attack Plans For Iran But Has Withheld Final Order -- WSJ​

WSJ - The president is hoping that threatening to join Israel’s strikes will lead Tehran to abandon its nuclear program​

looks like 10 missiles

for some levity, I found an old Israeli pro Trump song called Super Trump

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Iran is Trump's magnum opus.

PEACE THROUGH BRUTALLY FUCKING YOU IF YOU DONT DO WHAT I SAY.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

If the Ayatollah's bend the knee beforehand, is regime change even a necessity?

Emperor of Japan, while largely a figurehead tbf, bent the knee and got to keep the throne even after unconditional surrender.

We love regime change and don't currently have a usssr tier enemy we are realigning against.

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

Can't access the whole article, but it does show that Trump was ready late into yesterday. The tweet is a little misleading, its not like its about to happen.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/trump-privately-approved-attack-plans-for-iran-but-has-withheld-final-order-4563c526?mod=national-security_news_article_pos1

 

[gay porn is the best porn]

That, I think if the USA does the bunker busting thing, that will pretty much end the direct involvement. Iran really has no way to rearm itself in the near future and thus the external threat from them will be neutralized.

The issue isn't rearming itself (being able to produce weapons) the issue is being able to actually use the insane amount of missiles they have which has been massively reduced. Israel doesn't have enough missile interceptors to actually deal with Irans entire stockpile so that's what they had to do.

It's about strategy, not ability. If they can enrich uranium to 60% they can get it to 90%. It is significantly more difficult and time consuming to get to 60% from scratch than to get from 90% from 60%. Remember this.

I don't think anyone denies that Iran has uranium that can be very quickly enriched to the 90% need, The biggest concern here really is, how much tritium does Iran have? If they have hardly anything then whatever nukes they do make will be atomic and not thermonuclear.

 

[No. 7 cat]

I was never a Cruz supporter nor a hater. Sometimes he'll do funny things, or be correct on an issue, or he'll get caught with his pants down. But this interview has filled me with nothing but contempt for this fucking faggot. I hate every single fucking person who acts like this.

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Trump insulted him, his father and his wife. Cuck Cruz is there to ballwash both Trump and Israel. Trump will probably insult him later if he ever says anything of consequence again, and the service will continue from the cuck. He's a cur without pride or character.

 

[Muad'Dick]

What they're doing, and I should be clear that this is the prevailing opinion of analysts, not stated doctrine, is that they are intentionally enriching uranium to 60% and stockpiling it, to maintain enough deniability to say "teehee, it isn't even weapons grade, chud! We are truly running a peaceful nuclear program!" The obvious problem is that 60% isn't used for anything except to refine it further to weapons grade, but it's just far enough away that a country like the US might not blow your shit up for making nukes. The other thing is that warheads are useless unless you have a delivery system, which is the other part of the strategy, they refine a bunch of uranium up to 60%, stockpile it, then work on implosion tests, miniturization, and delivery vehicles, and then once you have warhead designs you are fairly certain work, and missiles or planes to deliver them, then you reprocess all that 60% into weapons grade, and virtually overnight you have a small arsenal of nuclear weapons.

True, but I think what we've witnessed over the past few days is going to re-write the books on tactical nuclear weapon strategy. Well, those using a missile as a delivery system at least.

The THAAD is earning it's keep with the mid-ranged stuff and while the distances aren't huge in missile terms, they're in keeping with the kind of theatre you would deploy that kind of weapon. I think a lot of people are going to be taking notes on how this is panning out on both sides.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

If they have hardly anything then whatever nukes they do make will be atomic and not thermonuclear.

I don't think it matters the slightest bit. Do you think Israel or the US is fine with Iran having "just" nuclear bombs and not thermonuclear ones? Absolutely not.

 

[Pendulous Dong]

I don't understand why we can't just kill these people. Iran is a relatively modern country, not just a bunch of random goatfuckers like Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria/Libya. As crazy as it sounds, killing everyone and installing a puppet government might actually work this time.

 

[Matzo Nazi]

Well folks, it appears this is the fork in the road. Do we go to war, or do we strive for peace? Only God knows, I pray for us all.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

I can’t find any verifiable sources, so it’s probably a load of hogwash. But there are reports that the top brass in Iran defected. Who the fuck knows, anymore.

 

[gay porn is the best porn]

I don't think it matters the slightest bit. Do you think Israel or the US is fine with Iran having "just" nuclear bombs and not thermonuclear ones? Absolutely not.

My point is that if they can make the bombs thermonuclear then that means they can make the bomb smaller but still has as much power as a regular atomic bomb, making it easier to slap it on a hypersonic rocket. Also means that they can make more nukes out of the uranium that they already have.

 

[>IMPLYING]

If the Ayatollah's bend the knee beforehand, is regime change even a necessity?

Emperor of Japan, while largely a figurehead tbf, bent the knee and got to keep the throne even after unconditional surrender.

Main thing is, Ayatollah isn't even the emperor, he's the equivalent of the Shia pope or Arch-Bishop of Canterbury (technically his title is "Grand Ayatollah", so there is a difference) and though Shia is just marginally less prone to awful than Sunni, there's theological reasons for why they can't be cordial to non-Muslims. Christians barely inch out over Jews on their totem pole, so they're naturally inclined towards hostility to anyone not Muslim through strict adherence to the Quran and Hadith. He could probably keep his role, but he'd have to be torn from the apparatus of state and exist as a semi-independent entity beholden to the authority of the government.

Random aside: Did you know there's Mormon Muslims?