2025 Israel vs Iran War

Opposition party leaders Gantz and Lieberman receiving a security briefing from Netanyahu today.
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Only one nuclear country in middle east that we control is good, got it.
If I had a button to make Israel not nuclear I would press it.
Yes, now apply that same reasoning to what IDF/Israel is doing in Gaza. It shouldn't be hard
You should read my extensive rant about the Holy Family Church and the immense number of war crimes Israel has committed just against that one church specifically. I have absolutely no problem condemning Israeli war crimes. People that intentionally target civilians, women, and children should be lined up against the wall and shot. Did you think this would be some kind of own? That I wouldn't maintain moral consistency? As for your assertion that the IDF committing war crimes somehow invalidates the protections of international law, that is absurd. No civilians should have to suffer from intentional, targeted attacks just because their armed forces commit war crimes. This works both ways.
Oh no!! A war crime? During a war of all times? Between two parties that are renowned for turning a blind eye to any conventions? Somebody phone the UN.
Is this supposed to somehow excuse that they are committing war crimes?
 
...Are these people fucking retarded? Do they realize what that's gonna do to them and the surrounding given how close both countries are?
The reactor was decommissioned a long time ago and is inactive. Especially now.

[EDIT: reading other comments I may be misinformed about it being decommissioned vs. not being completed yet but either way it was inactive with no radiological risk]
 
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There are so many contradictory reasons for the international community supporting or not supporting Israel, such that it is actually impossible for their media to appeal to all their supporters without also simultaneously pissing off all their detractors. Why even bother at this point?
 
So the European Hospital in Khan Younis was like Tracy Island and used to open up at night to launch mortar barrages, with Sinwar controlling them with an Xbox gamepad?
An act that is harmful to the enemy that strips a hospital of its protected status can include the placing of a medical establishment or unit in proximity to a military objective with the intention of shielding it from enemy's military operations. Having tunnels directly under a hospital from where you coordinate attacks definitely falls under that category.
 
YouGov survey from Tuesday:

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June 17, 2025
3471 US adults surveyed

Do you think that in the long run, recent attacks by Israel and Iran on each other will make the world...?​

Total​
Region
Gender
Politics
Age
Race
All adultsNortheastMidwestSouthWest
Male​
Female​
DemIndRep18-2930-44
45-64​
65+​
WhiteBlackHisp.Other
Safer15%16%15%15%14%21%9%5%14%28%8%10%17%25%18%5%9%15%
Less safe50%48%51%46%54%50%50%64%49%34%52%53%47%47%50%40%53%55%
Neither13%14%14%14%13%13%14%12%13%16%15%12%14%13%12%21%14%13%
Not sure22%22%21%25%19%17%27%19%25%22%25%26%22%15%20%35%24%17%

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Israelis will get tired of the sirens eventually and then there will be internal pressure for Netanyahu to come to some sort of ceasefire agreement. I guess this is what Iran is hoping for. They just need to make sure all their missile launchers don't get blown to bits in the meantime.
Yeah that's the race we're watching, the race between the elimination of Iran's ability to conduct strikes and Israeli public pressure for a ceasefire. My money is on Israel winning the race, but it will depend heavily on the number of HGVs and launchers Iran has left.

If I were Iran, I would avoid hitting civilian sites like the plague, and focus purely on Israeli C4ISTAR and missile defense, while maximizing the number of targets Israel has to hit and minimizing groupings of those targets, to attrit Israeli weapons stocks. That's their best path forward if they intent to keep trying to fight this war, but judging by the most recent attacks, it looks like they are trying to break the will of the Israeli people, which is going to fall flat.
 
Would you """people""" stop putting anything political into the Community Submissions? Every time I click the link to "discuss" I instead see 3 or 4 sportsball team level retards yelling into the void of each other's empty sportsball team heads and no (okay maybe a few) critical analysis of anything, not even the sportsball. Your threads are generally not useful or interesting.
 
The reactor was only partially built, and Iran had informed the IAEA that it planned to begin operating the facility next year. It targeted the component intended for plutonium production.
Yea, that thing is dead. You can't rebuild this.
If I had a button to make Israel not nuclear I would press it.
Cool

You should read my extensive rant about the Holy Family Church and the immense number of war crimes Israel has committed just against that one church specifically. I have absolutely no problem condemning Israeli war crimes. People that intentionally target civilians, women, and children should be lined up against the wall and shot. Did you think this would be some kind of own? That I wouldn't maintain moral consistency? As for your assertion that the IDF committing war crimes somehow invalidates the protections of international law, that is absurd. No civilians should have to suffer from intentional, targeted attacks just because their armed forces commit war crimes. This works both ways.
I don't know your background to vouch for you. IDF targeting civvs is a norm in every day life of a "goy" societies they have around.
Hitting a hospital may be a war crime but it has to first be proven to be one and - given the seriousness of situation it doesn't really matter to any party.
I used to care about and support Israel (muh holocaust), but that ended a long time ago. Now I am completely indifferent to their suffering and I doubt anyone else has bothered to care.
Israel had a chance to not fuck things up completely and just keep to itself, but no. They had to fuck things up for everyone. They made their bed, now sleep in it. I don't know why it is so hard to understand.
 
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