2025 Israel vs Iran War

[AndSothisIsChristmas]

James Lindsay and some other Jews have been peddling this nonsense for a while now.

I quite enjoyed Cynical Theories. I found it very insightful into all the bullshit I was putting up with in academia at the time.

 

[Hitman One]

The French government says Iranian nuclear weapons pose a threat to Europe.

https://x.com/ILRedAlert/status/1935734054298730863

Yeah sure they do, just like Saddam's WMDs totally posed an imminent threat to Europe.

 

[Dana scully]

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Maybe there’s hamas tunnel hidden underground the hospital

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Israel's going to kill the Ayatollah:

 

[AndSothisIsChristmas]

James Lindsay and some other Jews have been peddling this nonsense for a while now. Did you think you came up with "woke right" on your own?

What, the words that I didn’t use once in my post? What does that even mean?

 

[Pimp C]

I quite enjoyed Cynical Theories. I found it very insightful into all the bullshit I was putting up with in academia at the time.

Lindsay saves his ire for right-wingers who are critical of Israel, calling them "woke-right", now. That was the subtext of Douglas Murray v Dave Smith on Joe Rogan and "But have you ever beeeen there?"

 

[Dawdler]

The GBU-57 is untested and we'd have no way of confirming if it worked or not, plus we're bombing a site where Iran's storing the majority of their 60%-enriched uranium so that complicates things. You don't want to accidentally create the world's largest dirty bomb if it somehow gets into the air or the water table.

It also is a 15 year old ordinance and only 20 were made.
This is an excellent article: https://web.archive.org/web/2013012...inesstechnology/2020131408_boeingbombxml.html
Basically US build this to bomb Iran lol
(Just in case)

 

[Disaffected Coyote]

You know how we, rightly, label woke politics as the new religion for godless Democrats? I’m beginning to wonder if conspiracy theories take the same position for extreme wignats. “Praise be to the almighty, unassailable Deep State and Jewish overlords, which predestine our entire lives!”

Yes, this. There is a segment of the online right and left that believe almost every conspiracy theory.

 

[PhoBingas]

You keep bringing this back to hezbollah. You've jumped onto an emotional bandwagon and got carried away shouting muh hezbollah. They're pieces of shit for killing innocents. Who they are or what they did doesn't matter. If you can't separate the inhumane act of the pagers from who those people were, then kill yourself and stop replying to me. You're a plague on humanity.

Jake paul and that other clown like hezbollah, so that should be all you need to know.

 

[Netizennameless]

The entire goal of this is supposedly to achieve compliance from Iran. That being no nuclear armaments.

If the next Ayatollah is the same as this Ayatollah and just continues on with the nuclear goal then all of this accomplished nothing.

Untrue. At minimum, this operation set Iran back years in terms of getting a nuke.

If the West wants regime change at all its because they are hoping or expecting that the next Iranian leader will be willing to comply.

I don't think so. The purpose is to let the next Ayatollah or disgraced monarch or whoever takes power know that the status quo has changed. They will be personally killed or removed from power for plotting and conducting actual terrorism.

I think this marks an end to America and Israel's past policies of "proportional" responses. We will just kill your leadership now if you go too far and we are tired of pretending we can't do it at will.

I could work both ways, it could strengthen the resolve of the Israelis who feel the war is already in motion and the hospital attack justifies the action.

It will almost certainly strengthen their resolve. Your enemy blowing up hospitals and apartments makes the populace want to kill the enemy, not surrender to them, and the more barbaric one behaves in war, the more their enemy fights to the death.

 

[autistic dog]

You keep bringing this back to hezbollah. You've jumped onto an emotional bandwagon and got carried away shouting muh hezbollah. They're pieces of shit for killing innocents. Who they are or what they did doesn't matter. If you can't separate the inhumane act of the pagers from who those people were, then kill yourself and stop replying to me. You're a plague on humanity.

The civilized world doesn't owe terrorist access to their methods of communication. Their choices are to suck up to the western world which includes no threatening to kill us, invent their own tech tree, or live in the stone age.

If they choose the 3rd option they can yell about killing us all they want without their dick and balls exploding. No one will hear them or care.

 

[Pimp C]

What, the words that I didn’t use once in my post? What does that even mean?

You made it seem like you've stumbled on to this new concept that sounds exactly like Lindsay's. Sorry if I came off as unnecessarily hostile.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-expecting-us-decision-on-joining-iran-strikes-in-24-48-hours-says-official/

https://megalodon.jp/2025-0620-0144-05/https://www.timesofisrael.com:443/liveblog_entry/israel-expecting-us-decision-on-joining-iran-strikes-in-24-48-hours-says-official/

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Iran has hit a major Israeli landmark.
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Al Yanamah palace in Saudi Arabia has two giant dildos for sale. One is named Salman bin Abdulaziz and the other is named MBS.

 

[unleashthefreak]

You're supposed to issue warnings to evacuate from the hospital if it's a military target.

Perhaps a bit late, but the protection for civilian hospitals (or that is, the status as a "civilian hospital") from Article 18, Article 19, is contingent up this:

States which are Parties to a conflict shall provide all civilian
hospitals with certificates showing that they are civilian hospitals
and that the buildings which they occupy are not used for any
purpose which would deprive these hospitals of protection in
accordance with Article 19.
-Geneva Convention 4

How is this hospital not a military target? It’s used to treat soldiers

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, retard.

The fact that sick or wounded members of the armed forces are
nursed in these hospitals, or the presence of small arms and
ammunition taken from such combatants and not yet handed to the
proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the
enemy.
-Geneva Convention 4

More information on Article 18, Article 19:

Spoiler: WARNING: Wall Of Text

Jean S. Pictet, The Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 Commentary - IV Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War:

One thing is quite clear, however, and it is of great
importance : if a hospital is to enjoy special protection under the
Convention, it may under no circumstances be used for non-medical
purposes

The prohibition ... obviously refers primarily to attacks
deliberately directed against hospitals ... such an intention is infrequent ... The
prohibition must therefore be regarded as wider in its significance;
... the belligerents are under a general obligation to do everything possible
to spare hospitals. That is the essential point.

under certain circumstances (during an attack by
air-borne troops, for example), a point close to a hospital may suddenly
become a military objective, without there being any practical
possibility of transporting the sick and equipment to a sufficient
distance. The general obligation to spare hospitals requires, even in
such cases, that the two belligerents should take precautions to ensure
that hospitals should suffer as little as possible from the attacks and
from hostilities in general

Only recognized establishments may avail themselves of the
emblem with a view to obtaining protection

The belligerents have the duty (and not merely the right) to issue
the certificate of recognition. This provision is mandatory : whenever
a hospital fulfils the conditions laid down in the first paragraph, it has
a right to official recognition. Recognition means that the State
recognizing assumes responsibilities towards the hospital

When studying paragraph 1 we saw the scope of the clause prohibit-
ing attacks on hospitals. The last paragraph shows clearly that wide
as that scope is, it is not intended to confer immunity on military
objectives situated close to a hospital or to restrict the right to attack
them as such

It is for that reason that the legal protection accorded
to military hospitals must be accompanied by practical measures to
ensure that they are situated as far as possible from military objectives

 

[PhoBingas]

Yeah sure they do, just like Saddam's WMDs totally posed an imminent threat to Europe.

All the YN's must have forgot all the saber-rattling at the first of the Iraq and Afghan wars. In 4 years, the media pundits and politicians will all be gaslighting us saying that the nukes were never the reason we went in.

 

[12345678901]

Iran spent every oil dollar they made on military rather than becoming a developed state and they have nothing to show for it.

 

[StudMccool]

Source

 

[Rimanah]

All the YN's must have forgot all the saber-rattling at the first of the Iraq and Afghan wars. In 4 years, the media pundits and politicians will all be gaslighting us saying that the nukes were never the reason we went in.

"You want war because of made up nukes, I want war because I want dead brown people. We are not the same."

 

[autistic dog]

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I guess in retrospect its obvious why Iran had to use their missiles as a vague threat of total destruction. They are not accurate enough to hit strategic targets so Israel was always going to cry about every civilian target hit. However I dont think Iran really considered what they would do if Israel responded with targeted perportional attacks on civilians.

At this point I don't see this "war" ending ever unless the US steps in on Iran's behalf. Israel has justification to never stop bombing whatever the fuck they want in Iran. Iran can't stop them and no one else is going to try.