2025 Israel vs Iran War

Dawdler said:
You did good homework but... Israel didn't exist before 1948
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i was showing that jews and arabs were killing each other before 1948 as well so the continued attacks that happened since Israel's independence (Yom Kippur, Arab-Israeli war, Al-Aqsa Flood, etc) really shouldn't be a revelation to you unless you are committed to being an obtuse faggot.
 
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ye's Official KF Burner said:
On a serious note I think Trump is stalling to let Israel attempt to assassinate and then if it's serious then he'll begrudgingly step in. I don't think he wants to say yes or no to Israel, or to the rest of the government, or to the people. It's a very divisive topic, and it will alienate many no matter what the answer is.

Yes, they do want Ayatollah dead. Yes, they'd love to be able to help Israel BUT they don't want to alienate the people who hate Israel either. Maybe things will change. But that's my read.
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Air defense systems in Tehran actively engaged, impacts at Marzdaran are devastating.

David Brown said:
I am not very educated on this subject so forgive my ignorance. But if Israel has the capacity to assassinate the Ayatollah why wouldn't they have done so already?
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Israel came in with the plan not to change the regime. They are now considering it because of mission creep
 
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This is slightly off-topic but seemingly this is an issue that comes up whenever sandnigger-kike conflicts arise, so I figured I'd ask:

Dawdler said:
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I genuinely don't know why people keep bringing up the King David Hotel bombing.

First, the Hotel was also being used as administrative offices for both the British colonial government AND military headquarters. The group that carried out the bombing put said bombs to target the wing of the hotel that the British were occupying.

Second, the group that carried out the bombing fucking warned the British in advance. Hell, they even notified the French consulate in another part of the hotel, who actually took the warning seriously, while the British, in their arrogant retardation, ignored it.

Why do sandnigger supporters/sandniggers bring this incident up as some...gotcha? Pre-Israel Jews attacked hotel housing British military and civilian authorities! Oh and the Jews provided multiple warnings! Totally the same as sandniggers blowing up buses or restaurants at random specifically targeting civilians!
 
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Just_Somebody said:
Why do sandnigger supporters/sandniggers bring this incident up as some...gotcha?
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Because they are dumb sandniggers. Lehi did far worse things but people dont care because that would require research
 
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Just_Somebody said:
Why do sandnigger supporters/sandniggers bring this incident up as some...gotcha? Pre-Israel Jews attached hotel housing British military and civilian authorities! Oh and the Jews provided multiple warnings! Totally the same as sandniggers blowing up buses or restaurants at random specifically targeting civilians!
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You can’t really argue principles with someone whose base principle is that it’s okay to lie to infidels (Muslims), or that all language is a tool in service of power dynamics (leftists), or that all Jews are evil (pol exiles, groypers, etc.).
 
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ye's Official KF Burner said:
On a serious note I think Trump is stalling to let Israel attempt to assassinate and then if it's serious then he'll begrudgingly step in. I don't think he wants to say yes or no to Israel, or to the rest of the government, or to the people. It's a very divisive topic, and it will alienate many no matter what the answer is.

Yes, they do want Ayatollah dead. Yes, they'd love to be able to help Israel BUT they don't want to alienate the people who hate Israel either. Maybe things will change. But that's my read.
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I think he's just wary of taking America into another forever war and hoping Iran capitulates its nuclear program before forcing his hand. And despite the 3 day SMO talk it will be a forever war. Even if we destroy fordo and all the rest, we'll still have to maintain an air campaign indefinitely to prevent them from simply rebuilding. We'll also have to keep bombing their missile factories and launch sites or else they'll just keep launching at Israel/US bases and the US especially can't afford to keep all its military bases in the region on lockdown/evacuated indefinitely. Not to mention every time missiles do get through and kill Americans or destroy a portion of a base pressure will ramp up to retaliate by killing regime political/military higher ups. Basically unless Iran cries uncle, we will be stuck maintaining a large expensive air war against Iran for months or even years to come, with no way to back down or back out without granting them a massive PR victory of having outlasted us, and immediately building a nuke the second the bombs stop falling.

It's not over until they say it's over. All we can do is invade (unlikely) or keep killing government officials in the hope eventually the state disintigrates, which is far from guaranteed. Honestly I'd rather we just give Israel permission to nuke them than committ ourselves to that.
 
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Seething Troon Collector said:
If I had to speculate, either it’s subterfuge on part of Trump, or substantially more military assets are being positioned than what we’ve seen so far which would make for a much larger response.

Or maybe Trump is just waiting to see if Israel decapitates the Iranian government by killing Kahmenei and those closest to him in some attempt to destabilize the government and pacify the IRGC as an organized fighting force.
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Or maybe he's annoyed by the Israelis constantly leaking that they "expect the US will be joining within the next 24-48 hours," so he's trolling Bibi.
ye's Official KF Burner said:
On a serious note I think Trump is stalling to let Israel attempt to assassinate and then if it's serious then he'll begrudgingly step in. I don't think he wants to say yes or no to Israel, or to the rest of the government, or to the people. It's a very divisive topic, and it will alienate many no matter what the answer is.
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Probably this, I think Trump would prefer that the Ayatollah drop dead without US involvement.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
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Trump really wants a deal instead of a war and is bending over backwards giving Iran chances to come to the table. He's also bent over backwards to give Israel all the satellite and other targeting data and bombs and other supplies it needs to bomb Iran for a long time. Muh reckless Trump is being very deliberative, he's not going to pull the trigger on this until and unless he's 1000% sure that's what he wants to do and if people don't like that tough shit
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Two weeks? With this much asset buildup? With the UK government asking lawyers to determine if they can join? With Nimitz arriving soon?
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I will have to wash myself afterwards for agreeing with a jew, but the two week delay is ridiculous. America has never been shy about jumping the gun with any kind of conflict and there is a very UN-averse administration in place at the moment. Trump has made it clear there will be no bargaining, only surrender. Iran's neighbours won't do shit besides impotent posturing that Memri will have a field day with. Assets are being moved into the area and while they're sat on their hands they're burning money. This should be a done deal. I don't see what the play is here.

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mindlessobserver said:
He's probably going to attack on July 1st just to felt all those people betting against "nothing ever happens".
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I'm still betting on something happening. Iran is on its fucking knees. We put the Shah back in, suddenly we have an ally in the region. The Realpolitik makes too much fucking sense not to go for it.
 
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