2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Catch The Rainbow]

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As a wise president said once, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, can't get fooled again." I'm not trusting any intel about a ME nation have WMD ever again.

Seriously asking, have you ever read any of the IAEA reports? The IAEA actively disagrees with the US and Israel often, they're pretty much the most neutral party in this conflict

 

[draggs]

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As a wise president said once, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me, can't get fooled again." I'm not trusting any intel about a ME nation have WMD ever again.

Iran said itself four years ago it was enriching to 60%

 

[Muad'Dick]

Seriously asking, have you ever read any of the IAEA reports? The IAEA actively disagrees with the US and Israel often, they're pretty much the most neutral party in this conflict

Its not the IAEA thats the problem. Some of us remember the yellow cake fiasco where the evidence was a pretty obvious forgery, yet the Bush administration still ran with it anyway.

 

[soy_king]

Seriously asking, have you ever read any of the IAEA reports? The IAEA actively disagrees with the US and Israel often, they're pretty much the most neutral party in this conflict

Didn't the IAEA say that Iraq didn't have a WMD program in 2003?

 

[Muad'Dick]

Didn't the IAEA say that Iraq didn't have a WMD program in 2003?

Yup. Two weeks before they went ahead and invaded anyway.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Didn't the IAEA say that Iraq didn't have a WMD program in 2003?

They were calling out Bush. This is why pretending Iran 2025 = Iraq 2003 is dishonest at best

Its not the IAEA thats the problem. Some of us remember the yellow cake fiasco where the evidence was a pretty obvious forgery, yet the Bush administration still ran with it anyway.

helps that a neutral third party is sounding the alarm

 

[soy_king]

Yup. Two weeks before they went ahead and invaded anyway.

Well the Invasion was out of their hands, but if I'm being absolutely honest, that kind of provides credibility to their current reporting.

 

[Muad'Dick]

Well the Invasion was out of their hands, but if I'm being absolutely honest, that kind of provides credibility to their current reporting.

Like I said, I don't think anyone has any problem with the IAEA's reporting. In the case of 2003 they were on top of things straight away. ElBaradei (I think) made a laughing stock out of them, yet the decision had already been made behind the scenes and the invasion still went ahead.

For anyone that has followed this kind of thing for a while, the moment the term "WMD" is mentioned, the only response it elicits is "fuck me, here we go again...".

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

As a reminder, Iran is tectonically unstable and they have earthquakes all the time. It's probably not a nuke test.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

As a reminder, Iran is tectonically unstable and they have earthquakes all the time. It's probably not a nuke test.
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You can tell the difference very easily, and if they did test one; the people monitoring it would be crowing about it.

 

[soy_king]

Like I said, I don't think anyone has any problem with the IAEA's reporting. In the case of 2003 they were on top of things straight away. ElBaradei (I think) made a laughing stock out of them, yet the decision had already been made behind the scenes and the invasion still went ahead.

For anyone that has followed this kind of thing for a while, the moment the term "WMD" is mentioned, the only response it elicits is "fuck me, here we go again...".

At least we can give Trump credit that he's very hesitant to actually launch an invasion and start a new war. Cheney, Bush, and Clinton would've been furiously masturbating to the thought of having this much evidence to justify their regime changes.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

Shockingly, the Iranians aren't embracing the Shah's son as their next leader.

 

[Sammich]

"Were it not for the accident of my birth, I'd be anti-Semitic. Anyone who has been persecuted for 2,000 years is doing something wrong."

Kissinger was a really interesting guy. Evil as all hell, but he had some interesting thoughts.

 

[StudMccool]

Shockingly, the Iranians aren't embracing the Shah's son as their next leader.
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They have a rich way of life and extensive tapestry of culture, such is not easily bombed out of a people.

 

[Sammich]

Okay so Israel coordinates Qatari money transfer to Hamas because they were seemingly more moderate than their adversary (a decision I disagree with but whatever), and then, surprise, Hamas the jihadist organization misappropriates the money and that’s somehow Israel’s fault? So Israel is responsible for creating the jihadi organization but the jihadis are not responsible for being jihadists?

Your weak pilpul is starting to make me understand why support for Israel is falling off a fuckign cliff lately.

If you give money to start a group, and that group does horrible shit and you start playing semantic games by giving money to a third part to give to that group, you are culpable for what that group does. Doesn't mean that group is absolved, just means you don't have clean hands. 8200 used to have better people, DEI hires are really an issue.

 

[3-2-1836]

Which was what I was getting at. 'Oh my god' seems more equivalent to when muslims/arabs in general say 'Yallah/ya allah'.

Yallah just means lets go

t. lived in an Arab country for over a year

That said Allah Arkbar fills both the role of oh my god and deus vult just like the word fuck in English can fit so many different roles.

 

[inetsone]

At least we can give Trump credit that he's very hesitant to actually launch an invasion and start a new war. Cheney, Bush, and Clinton would've been furiously masturbating to the thought of having this much evidence to justify their regime changes.

There's too many people still around who remember the absolute shitshow lying of WMDs and Iraq. They can't run that playbook again. I have seen very little use of the WMD acronym and only in a few lib rags like Salon saying this is Donboi's WMD moment, which isn't serious commentary. If anyone even says seriously WMDs, there would be public outrage.

IMHO, a more skeptical public requires an approach with more plausible deniability, if a plan is to be engaged. I personally think that's what we're seeing here with him saying "no" (for show) while also appearing to be on the verge of green lighting military action. Also, the abandonment of weapons in Afghan is of very recent memory...no one wants to even think about boots on the ground in Iran...except maybe the most fundamentalist Christian.

 

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Who would win? 100 Iranian nuclear scientists or one jacked American gorilla?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Kissinger was a really interesting guy. Evil as all hell, but he had some interesting thoughts.

I personally think that's what we're seeing here with him saying "no" (for show) while also appearing to be on the verge of green lighting military action.

Assets also need to be put into position, no point in announcing things before they're ready

 

[Sammich]

I seen this on twitter earlier, If anyone can debunk it or proof scott to be full of shit I would be more than willing to change my mind. Scott Horton is a pretty solid source imo.