2025 Israel vs Iran War

Yallah just means lets go

t. lived in an Arab country for over a year

That said Allah Arkbar fills both the role of oh my god and deus vult just like the word fuck in English can fit so many different roles.
I've heard announcer say Allahu Akbar in soccer clips after someone scores a good goal. It can mean "holy shit, that's crazy" or "praise god" as they chop your head off. Context is everything.
 
I seen this on twitter earlier, If anyone can debunk it or proof scott to be full of shit I would be more than willing to change my mind. Scott Horton is a pretty solid source imo.

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He had the high IQ intelligence to know Piers show is a meme no different than a ESPN show on two jackoffs arguing if Tom Brady or LeBron James is the GOAT.

As he mentions that he will let the other guests talk for an hour lol.
 
I seen this on twitter earlier, If anyone can debunk it or proof scott to be full of shit I would be more than willing to change my mind. Scott Horton is a pretty solid source imo.
If this is true, does nobody find it odd that, once again, France is involved with alleged rogue states in the handling nuclear materials?

DO THE ANGLOS HAVE TO TEACH YOU AGAIN PIERRE?
 
At least we can give Trump credit that he's very hesitant to actually launch an invasion and start a new war. Cheney, Bush, and Clinton would've been furiously masturbating to the thought of having this much evidence to justify their regime changes.
To what little credit I can give them, I think even the most delusional neocon knew that boots on the ground in Iran was a non-starter by 2006. Sure, they were chomping at the bit to do it in 2002-2003 when Afghanistan and Iraq seemingly rolled over almost immediately but once putting them back together proved to be much more difficult than breaking them apart, priorities changed. Bombing, sure but I think an actual invasion has been out of the cards for a long time from all but most bloodthirsty Holden Bloodfeasts.
 
To what little credit I can give them, I think even the most delusional neocon knew that boots on the ground in Iran was a non-starter by 2006. Sure, they were chomping at the bit to do it in 2002-2003 when Afghanistan and Iraq seemingly rolled over almost immediately but once putting them back together proved to be much more difficult than breaking them apart, priorities changed. Bombing, sure but I think an actual invasion has been out of the cards for a long time from all but most bloodthirsty Holden Bloodfeasts.
Only because it would've completely bankrupted us and it would've been wildly unpopular, not for lack of interest from them. I'm saying more that if there was this much evidence for the existence of a nuclear program in Iraq as there is in Iran right now, I think Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld would've been creaming their pants nonstop.
 
I seen this on twitter earlier, If anyone can debunk it or proof scott to be full of shit I would be more than willing to change my mind. Scott Horton is a pretty solid source imo.

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This is incredibly dishonest.

>A nuke would be too big to fit on a missile

Project AMAD focused on miniaturization.

>If Iran had one nuke it's not a big deal

moves the goalposts and ignores that gun type nukes can be moved to proxies that are willing to use them, missiles dont matter when you have a hezbollah suicide bomber

>Iran is complying with the JCPOA

Military nuclear sites were never covered under the JCPOA and Iran clearly hasn't been complying with the IAEA under the remaining terms of the JCPOA considering that the IAEA has just put out a report detailing how Iran has been regularly non complying for a long time now.

> 60 percent isn't a big deal, it's just a bargaining chip

If you have a civilian only program, why even use it as a bargaining chip? The fact you're abiding by a program earns you more of a chip than violating and saying ok I'll give it up
 
If this is true, does nobody find it odd that, once again, France is involved with alleged rogue states in the handling nuclear materials?

DO THE ANGLOS HAVE TO TEACH YOU AGAIN PIERRE?
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Your weak pilpul is starting to make me understand why support for Israel is falling off a fuckign cliff lately.

If you give money to start a group, and that group does horrible shit and you start playing semantic games by giving money to a third part to give to that group, you are culpable for what that group does. Doesn't mean that group is absolved, just means you don't have clean hands. 8200 used to have better people, DEI hires are really an issue.

My point was more how this is war and hostile actor/s and a whole lottsa shit we don't know going on behind the scenes. It's naive to think otherwise, especially in light of what's always revealed after the public stops paying attention. Throwing around emotionally-charged blame games as if its a genuine argument/position is something normies do because they have no other understanding of politics or history.

I have my own (niche) political beliefs about what that shit might be but I don't blame the Israelis for trying to contain the situation by whatever means necessary (as Kissinger also suggested in geopolitics). Maybe that means slowly taking control or baiting Hamas... or in this case, Iran. I fully believe they had Yasser Arafat killed by his own people in the end.

tl:dr: words, words, words.

To what little credit I can give them, I think even the most delusional neocon knew that boots on the ground in Iran was a non-starter by 2006. Sure, they were chomping at the bit to do it in 2002-2003 when Afghanistan and Iraq seemingly rolled over almost immediately but once putting them back together proved to be much more difficult than breaking them apart, priorities changed. Bombing, sure but I think an actual invasion has been out of the cards for a long time from all but most bloodthirsty Holden Bloodfeasts.

I mentioned in another thread: many of the fundy Christians I know have come out hardcore in support of even boots on the ground. They again insist there were WMDs in Iraq too, which is absurd and not only unnecessary to say with Iran but totes counter-productive if you do want us to engage them.
 
I've skipping through highlights because this thread moves so fast, so apologies if this had already been mentioned.. I know there are two branches of islam, but if israel kills the ayatollah, would muslims everywhere kick off? Or would the majority that the wonderful governments of the west have imported just shrug?
Idgaf about the middle east, but if this activates terror cells across the western world, I'm gonna be pissed.
I think it would be like if the pope got killed. There'd be a to-do for a while then there'd be a new Sunni or Shite or whatever head magoo. (I forget which flavor of 'slims Iranians are)
 
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Unconfirmed news:

The American Embassy in the capital, Baghdad, gives all its employees and contractors with it and transforms the security tasks and managing the entrances and gates to the American army, for fear of repeating the incident of storming the green and burning the embassy.

American State department has an interesting reaction to the question of if any Americans were harmed during Israeli bombiings

 
People are forgetting that killing an islamic/muslim leader is just like taking a scoop or two from a tub of icecream. They are all nuts all the way down.

The Israeli government approved a Defense Ministry and Home Front Command plan to renovate 500 public bomb shelters and deploy 1,000 mobile roadside shelters across the country, with an estimated cost of 100 million NIS."In light of the security situation, the government approved via a phone vote a plan to accelerate home front defense," the Defense Ministry says.The ministry says the 500 public shelters that will be refurbished are mostly in central Israel, which has been repeatedly targeted by Iran in the past week.The 1,000 roadside shelters will be placed "in sensitive areas nationwide," it adds.
 
This is incredibly dishonest.

>A nuke would be too big to fit on a missile

Project AMAD focused on miniaturization.

>If Iran had one nuke it's not a big deal

moves the goalposts and ignores that gun type nukes can be moved to proxies that are willing to use them, missiles dont matter when you have a hezbollah suicide bomber

>Iran is complying with the JCPOA

Military nuclear sites were never covered under the JCPOA and Iran clearly hasn't been complying with the IAEA under the remaining terms of the JCPOA considering that the IAEA has just put out a report detailing how Iran has been regularly non complying for a long time now.

> 60 percent isn't a big deal, it's just a bargaining chip

If you have a civilian only program, why even use it as a bargaining chip? The fact you're abiding by a program earns you more of a chip than violating and saying ok I'll give it up
I mean regardless of war or no war or a deal or whatever, I don't want anyone else getting nuclear weapons. Fuck that.

We should have a bunch in safe places around the world to shoot at space aliens. Nothing more.
 
Take this with a big grain of salt because I can't(I don't save a lot of messages from him) and I won't provide sources but around 2008 when I was pretty active on IRC I made a Iranian friend there but yeah, most of the internet nowadays is blocked, the internet there is nowadays more a whitelist than blacklist as they block even small sites but according to him, most people(at least around him) wants a regime change and hates the Theocratic government but because they arrest, kill protesters and their families, most of them fears to say anything
Their fear worth it.
Source, the alternative in Kike Great Britain
 
I'd just like to say thanks for the folks posting good sources and contributing well thought out points to the discussion. It's greatly appreciated :)

I'd also like to thank the people shitting up the thread with /pol/tard tier takes on the Jews/Muslims as you have made me less racist, something I never thought possible.
 
Shockingly, the Iranians aren't embracing the Shah's son as their next leader.
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Unless the Shah Hopeposting/15-seconds-of-fame is part of an Israeli strategy to keep Khomeni worried more about getting coup'ed and/or revolutioned than worrying about appointing generals who can fight back/protect the nuke facilities, its honestly kind of cringe.

If serious, way to ruin an otherwise very successful military op with cringey unobtainable political goals
 
If you look at her track record, she is either a glowie, delusional or possibly both.
Rumors are that she's not even Jewish... these rumors come from ex-friend Milo Yiannopoulos who has definitely lied about being Jewish which either makes him more or less credible on this matter. For what it's worth, she got her start as a student at a Catholic college, though that's not definitive at all (my mom went to a Catholic high school even though her father was a relatively well-known atheist in Taiwan).

Laura Loomer is apologizing to Tucker Carlson for the difference in my opinions they've had regarding the Middle East.

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The only time that I've liked something that Laura Loomer has said.

As a reminder, Iran is tectonically unstable and they have earthquakes all the time. It's probably not a nuke test.
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Anti-fracking activists used to claim that it caused earthquakes. While that was obviously bullshit, is there any serious scientific evidence that we could cause earthquakes?

The Israeli government approved a Defense Ministry and Home Front Command plan to renovate 500 public bomb shelters and deploy 1,000 mobile roadside shelters across the country, with an estimated cost of 100 million NIS."In light of the security situation, the government approved via a phone vote a plan to accelerate home front defense," the Defense Ministry says.The ministry says the 500 public shelters that will be refurbished are mostly in central Israel, which has been repeatedly targeted by Iran in the past week.The 1,000 roadside shelters will be placed "in sensitive areas nationwide," it adds.
Hoxhaism will rise again
 
I should have know Trump had lost his mind when I found out he was sticking his dick in that ghoul.
Trump isn't actually in control anymore. Loomer's box-yeast has taken cordyceps-like control over the President.
100 Israeli Babies vs 100 Iranian Babies. Who is winning this fight?
Pre or post circumcision? The blood loss could be a deciding factor if the Israeli babies are fresh off the snip.
 
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