Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back. - Female pornographer laments men staying at home, playing vidya and wanking.

Troy and I were having dinner at Mama Delia, one of the quieter spots. The sidewalk patio held five tables: three two-tops, including ours, and a pair pulled together for a group of eight women. At those tables, Troy was the only man.
The scene was beautiful — low lights, shared plates, shoulders angled in. The kind of evening people wait for all winter. Still, I found myself watching the crowd as it moved past us: women walking in pairs or alone, dressed with care. At table after table at the nearby restaurants, there was a noticeable absence of men — at least of men seated in what looked like dates.
Troy and I have known each other for almost 20 years. We met at Playboy, of all places, back when we were both learning how desire gets packaged, sold and sometimes misunderstood. We stayed close friends, bonded not just by our opinions, but by the effort it takes to stay in someone’s life.
That night, we made the effort. Still, what I saw unfolding around us felt like something else entirely: a collective shift I couldn’t unsee.
It started to become clear the previous April, when a man who had been pursuing me canceled a dinner at the last minute. There was a scheduling mix-up with his son’s game. I understood. I’m a hockey mom; I get it. Still, I went. I wore what I would have worn anyway. I took the table. I ordered well. And I watched the room.

Only two tables nearby seemed to hold actual dates. The rest were groups of women, or women alone, each one occupying her space with quiet confidence. No shrinking. No waiting. No apologizing.
That night marked something. Not a heartbreak, but an unveiling. A sense that what I’d been experiencing wasn’t just personal misalignment. It was something broader. Cultural. A slow vanishing of presence.

About grieving what’s not meeting us. And about refusing to dress it up as personal failure when it’s actually a collective reality.
So here’s what I’ll say: You are missed. Not just by me, but by the world you once helped shape.
We remember you. The version of you that lingered at the table. That laughed from the chest. That asked questions and waited for the answers. That touched without taking. That listened — really listened — when a woman spoke.
You are not gone, but your presence is thinning. In restaurants, in friendships, in the slow rituals of romantic emergence.
You’ve retreated — not into malice, but into something softer and harder all at once: Avoidance. Exhaustion. Disrepair.
Maybe no one taught you how to stay. Maybe you tried once, and it hurt. Maybe the world told you your role was to provide, to perform, to protect — and never to feel.

But here’s what’s real: We never needed you to be perfect. We needed you to be with us. Not above. Not muted. Not masked. Just with.
And you can still come back. Not by becoming someone else, but by remembering what connection feels like when it’s honest and slow. When it’s earned and messy and sacred.
We’re still here, those of us who are willing to cocreate something true. We are not impossible to please. We’re not asking for performances.
We are asking for presence. For courage. For breath and eye contact and the ability to say, “I’m here. I don’t know how to do this perfectly, but I want to try.”

Come back. Not with flowers or fireworks, but with willingness. With your whole, beautiful, imperfect heart.
We’re still here. And we haven’t stopped hoping.
As for me, I’ll keep showing up. Not because I’m waiting. Because I know what it feels like when someone finally arrives.

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A man needs to make this much money, be this tall, have this political view, etc. A woman can be a slut, be 300 pounds, and dumb as fuck, but don't judge her!

She don't need a man! However when she settles, gets bored, and files for divorce, she NEEDS half his money, the house, the kids, and the dog.


The only winning move is not to play. Men aren't stupid, when a mule learns that pulling the wagon gets him more beatings as not, he stops pulling.

All you older guys who snagged a wife when people still viewed relationships as mutual. I help you, you help me, because we are in this together, and we love each other, hats off.

Modern dating is beyond fucked, and it's not making either gender happy.
 
This is scrote cope. Women don't need men. Men need women. Women aren't lonely, men are. The elderly dying alone in nursing homes, beaten by nogs and jeets, are overwhelmingly men.

Good.
Sure you can say it's anecdotal, but of the several guys I know who are alone or have been alone at some point are happy and content with their lives. One whose wife died 12 years ago from cancer and he's perfectly happy/healthy being by himself. Conversely, my mom's friend died of alcoholism alone at her house
 
What will the consequences be for OnlyFans roasties when we get $5 robot brothels? Will they be forced to go trad? I think we already have the technology. Massive things will happen during the next 5-10 years.
AI girlfriends are apparently a thing already.

And I bet you they never nag nor demand that you have the right, woke opinions.
 
I know that A&N self-selects for this sort of content, but it seems that millennial and post-millenial people spend a shitload of time talking past each other (or writing godawful articles like this that are just talking past the entire other sex) when it comes to addressing what's wrong with how they interact with each other. The complete lack of introspection probably isn't helping, either.
 
The general sentiment of this thread is that women have ruined the prospect of dating through their willingness to shift the culture as a gender. I definitely feel like there's not much representation of men's actions before and during that which may have prompted that shift in the first place.

I think my issue, personally, is that men are romanticizing the nuclear family of the 50's without addressing the physical and emotional abuse that many many men used to leverage control over their households. Women weren't just "pleased as punch" to be making a pot roast that had to be on the table at 4pm, she was going to get her ass beat if it wasn't. Not to mention the absolute swath of men across the country that fucked everyone in their household until privacy was essentially dismantled.

I dont know where I'd come down on the issue at the moment, but treating the male gender as an impotent victim in the situation is pretty gay.
 
I know that A&N self-selects for this sort of content, but it seems that millennial and post-millenial people spend a shitload of time talking past each other (or writing godawful articles like this that are just talking past the entire other sex) when it comes to addressing what's wrong with how they interact with each other.
The situation is already a fait accompli for all but the youngest Millennials. Biological reality means it's too late to turn things around, so men have virtually zero incentive to do anything but laugh at the aged-out single women who were all going to marry male model billionaire BDSM-enthusiast vampires.
 
This is scrote cope. Women don't need men. Men need women. Women aren't lonely, men are. The elderly dying alone in nursing homes, beaten by nogs and jeets, are overwhelmingly men.
I gave you a semper fi because that is some Olympic tier trolling, 10/10 I take my hat off to you 🎯
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It's way more fun to have small house get togethers but you need to have rich friends with nice houses and awesome living rooms
Nah. Couple of weeks ago Mrs. SITHRAK! and I visited a couple of poorfag friends who have a 3yo kid and find dining out challenging.
They busted out the hibachi, banchan and some Japanese beers, I brought $30 worth of pork belly, sliced beef and chicken thigh fillets I marinated, and we had an awesome Jap/Korean summer BBQ on the porch. Whole thing probably cost $60-$70 for 4 adults and a naughty kid with hollow legs.
Rich friendships are more important than for your friends to be rich.
 
Dating has become the goal, not a process or path to something greater; not marriage, not children, not a family, just being able to say "I have a date," so you can dress up and eat over-priced microwaved food
Apologies for doublepost but I WANT TO PLAY A GAME.

Men, imagine you go out on a date with a girl. Maybe you’ve been set up by a family member, maybe you know her from work or church, maybe she’s that cute cashier at (retail location) that you vibe with.

You’ve taken her to a nice place and not the Olive Garden or some other chainslop place. The date is going well, conversation isn’t stilted or awkward. Your first plates of food hit the table and suddenly everything stops when she whips out her phone and insists on taking some selfies and photos of the food for her social media accounts.

Is this a dealbreaker?
 
Your first plates of food hit the table and suddenly everything stops when she whips out her phone and insists on taking some selfies and photos of the food for her social media accounts.

Is this a dealbreaker?
Yes. But I'd be sure to make fun of her and be really condescending the rest of the evening before breaking things off.
 
Apologies for doublepost but I WANT TO PLAY A GAME.

Men, imagine you go out on a date with a girl. Maybe you’ve been set up by a family member, maybe you know her from work or church, maybe she’s that cute cashier at (retail location) that you vibe with.

You’ve taken her to a nice place and not the Olive Garden or some other chainslop place. The date is going well, conversation isn’t stilted or awkward. Your first plates of food hit the table and suddenly everything stops when she whips out her phone and insists on taking some selfies and photos of the food for her social media accounts.

Is this a dealbreaker?
I've seen this happen, but not been subjected to it personally. If it did happen at my table, I'd ask the photographer why it was happening though - mostly because I'm quite sure I'd find the answer tragically hilarious and worth saving to regale friends and future dates with.
 
I don't think society is ready for the insanity that is going to happen when a majority of millennial women reach 40+ and are no longer desirable by men.

Our social and political landscape is going to be a hellish shitshow.
The sheer psychosexual neuroses will render the 2030s-2040s completely unlivable. That I have no doubt.

But there is no stopping the slide into the abyss now. You just have to endure until it hits rock bottom.
 
We never needed you to be perfect.
"Needed"? No. "Demanded"? Yes.
We needed you to be with us.
No thanks.
We are not impossible to please.
Lie. Those goalposts are on motorised wheels.
We’re not asking for performances.
Lie.
when a majority of millennial women reach 40+ and are no longer desirable by men.
That ship has long sailed.
 
60 years since the Pill nearly as many since the dawn of second wave of feminism, a century since formal suffrage.

This is the end result, the end result of a century of feminism. Washed up porn stars begging men to show interest in women that repeatedly and overwhelmingly insisted on either "not needing no man" or shameless hypergamy.

Its only going to get worse, TFR will drop, resentment will grow and the social compact will fray until its entirely gone.

I am told by feminists that this is an acceptable outcome, because 5,000 years of patriarchy was just so terrible. Maybe they are fine with it, but they have ensured the extinction and collapse of our civilization.
 
Apologies for doublepost but I WANT TO PLAY A GAME.

Men, imagine you go out on a date with a girl. Maybe you’ve been set up by a family member, maybe you know her from work or church, maybe she’s that cute cashier at (retail location) that you vibe with.

You’ve taken her to a nice place and not the Olive Garden or some other chainslop place. The date is going well, conversation isn’t stilted or awkward. Your first plates of food hit the table and suddenly everything stops when she whips out her phone and insists on taking some selfies and photos of the food for her social media accounts.

Is this a dealbreaker?
No, but I’d poke a little fun at her because it’s silly, and if she was a girl that would match me she’s poke fun at my own silliness too.
In the end, that’s buying food for another person and they take notice. It’s not an indictment on their personality or quality of character, if it was then train autists and hardcore gamers would be lesser humans as well.
 
I am an older dude, forty has been in the rear view mirror for a good while now. I don't see this sort of stuff being reality, I see a lot of big city folks doing their big city bullshit. I've never struggled to find decent, well meaning women. Found some trash too, but the ratio has been very good. I've always dated all stripes of women, and they mostly just want a guy to be loyal, honest and to treat them decently.
 
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