Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Barry Williams]

So long as Varka was in charge of overseeing operations there would be no babyfurs at all, if the art of them was even allowed on FN in the first place. Pretty sure he absolutely hated that lot and as long as he's in control he would not let anything affect his investment and his bottom line. In that regard, I can kind of respect him for that. It's literally everything else about him that's an issue.

Most of the people he surrounded himself with felt the same way. They have the financial pull to tell an entire group of pedophiles to fuck off and they wouldn't feel a thing long term. But, like I said these people would also turn a blind eye to feral art and the rest of the suspect "you're a little too good at drawing (animal)" content. The fandom would be trading one issue for another.

Also, my knowledge of the people involved here is very outdated and from an entirely different decade so who knows how things would pan out today.

 

[Coolio55]

So long as Varka was in charge of overseeing operations there would be no babyfurs at all, if the art of them was even allowed on FN in the first place. Pretty sure he absolutely hated that lot and as long as he's in control he would not let anything affect his investment and his bottom line. In that regard, I can kind of respect him for that. It's literally everything else about him that's an issue.

Most of the people he surrounded himself with felt the same way. They have the financial pull to tell an entire group of pedophiles to fuck off and they wouldn't feel a thing long term. But, like I said these people would also turn a blind eye to feral art and the rest of the suspect "you're a little too good at drawing (animal)" content. The fandom would be trading one issue for another.

Also, my knowledge of the people involved here is very outdated and from an entirely different decade so who knows how things would pan out today.

IIRC his site "herpy.net" was a thinly veiled(?) zoophile community focusing on reptiles.

 

[Barry Williams]

IIRC his site "herpy.net" was a thinly veiled(?) zoophile community focusing on reptiles.

Yeah that's what I meant, him and his team would exclude one bothersome furry group (babyfurs) for another (zoos). So really there would be no net improvement it just depends on whether you find underage art or feral/zoo art more disagreeable to say who is "less bad" in this hypothetical scenario

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

Mythbusters Yiffbusters
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This guy did a TED Talk in support of cosplaying, we should've seen the signs...

 

[sex haver]

Given all that above surely it's not a time to push more weird divisive bullshit at FA...
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...oh. No more gender settings. It's all keywords so you can be body type A and B!

Easily one of the dumbest changes FA has ever done.

"Tags are more gender inclusive!"

Yeah and? Tags already existed. There was nothing stopping you from leaving the gender field set to "none/any" and then using tags to say "enbymascboipuss" or whatever the fuck. Most trans artists already did that anyway. And if this is such an issue, why does the "species" dropdown still exist? Couldn't the same argument be made for that: delete it and everyone just has to tag how they "feel" their character's species is?

Also the Drpy guy in didelphigina's post has it dead on. If this is really meant to be about how users "identify" themselves... why doesn't the user profile have a "gender" box to fill in? There's a species box there! Why is it instead now everyone else's responsibility to tag art that has nothing to do with them in a way that "includes" a tiny minority?

Just a really, really dumb change all around that does nothing but make the site even worse to browse for no benefit other than making genderspecials feel like they "won".

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Easily one of the dumbest changes FA has ever done.

"Tags are more gender inclusive!"

Yeah and? Tags already existed. There was nothing stopping you from leaving the gender field set to "none/any" and then using tags to say "enbymascboipuss" or whatever the fuck. Most trans artists already did that anyway. And if this is such an issue, why does the "species" dropdown still exist? Couldn't the same argument be made for that: delete it and everyone just has to tag how they "feel" their character's species is?

Also the Drpy guy in didelphigina's post has it dead on. If this is really meant to be about how users "identify" themselves... why doesn't the user profile have a "gender" box to fill in? There's a species box there! Why is it instead now everyone else's responsibility to tag art that has nothing to do with them in a way that "includes" a tiny minority?

Just a really, really dumb change all around that does nothing but make the site even worse to browse for no benefit other than making genderspecials feel like they "won".

Feels like Sciggles really let the ball roll, and Dragoneer was holding things together. Now we have troons and other mentally ill wanting notoriety.

They'll swear to you that species is necessary because you can "look, touch and feel" the species, but no one controls the gender.
For that I say:

 

[Google.com]

"Tags are more gender inclusive!"

Yeah and? Tags already existed. There was nothing stopping you from leaving the gender field set to "none/any" and then using tags to say "enbymascboipuss" or whatever the fuck. Most trans artists already did that anyway. And if this is such an issue, why does the "species" dropdown still exist? Couldn't the same argument be made for that: delete it and everyone just has to tag how they "feel" their character's species is?

The funny part is I am seeing gay men complaining the most in comments which I wasn't expecting. They say instead of just filtering for male characters they now have to use a bunch of modifiers example:" male masculine -female -feminine -woman -mtf -transgender -the 80 million fake genders made by people who support this change" and then hope that it's tagged properly.

Gay porn most affect, happy pride month fags from Furaffinity.


Edit: They actually just reverted the update lol Source Ghost

It had additional consequences that had not been taken into account

Translation: We thought it would piss off the very small group of ring wingers on our website but instead fags were most affected, oops.

 

[sex haver]

Edit: They actually just reverted the update lol Source Ghost

Pfffft ahahaah:

Lastly, Fur Affinity is staffed in large by volunteers. That said, that should not be an excuse for poor behavior. We do expect all our staff to respond to users with constructive and polite comments at all times. This did not happen yesterday in a few replies, and we apologize greatly for this as well. The moderators in question have been spoken to, and it has been reiterated to our entire staff that they are here to serve the community as a whole.

The smug posting by the trannies in favor of making the site worse just to "affirm their gender" or whatever pissed off enough people they are actually apologizing for it, wow. I did not expect this response.

 

[Moonglade Feral Druid]

They actually just reverted the update lol

They roached out, haha! They saw the numerous complaints about it, and the threats to leave and went running for their moneybags. Classic.

 

[Pinball 2000]

As much as I’d like to think FA reverted the update because people complained, the more likely explanation is that outright removing the gendered terms broke something in the site’s code. Faced with the choice of dealing with a site more broken than it already is or simply reverting the update and trying something else, they went with the latter. And to be fair, not gutting part of your site’s functionality is the more sensible solution.

 

[The bird with tourettes]

the more likely explanation is that outright removing the gendered terms broke something in the site’s code.

The way it's worded does make it seem like it's a deeper issue then just "people are upset which is why we are reverting our position."

I do think it still is shocking they apologized for some staffs actions. Curious what happened in those comments that even made FA make such an apology.

 

[Google.com]

As much as I’d like to think FA reverted the update because people complained, the more likely explanation is that outright removing the gendered terms broke something in the site’s code. Faced with the choice of dealing with a site more broken than it already is or simply reverting the update and trying something else, they went with the latter. And to be fair, not gutting part of your site’s functionality is the more sensible solution.

The site is made out of painters tape and maintained by retards. If it broke something it'd be down for a month.

 

[CEO of Gay]

That's one hell of a way to describe someone.

Don't the Furry Raiders pretend to preach loving acceptance for all furries as part of their grooming method? How fucked up as a person do you gotta be that even the Furry Raider decide they don't want you?

Low barrier of entry, maybe?

I don't know how much a full set of BDSM leathers costs, but I bet a 30-buck pup hood is way cheaper than the rest of the outfit. Throw one of these on, find a place where gay men go for hookups, profit?

Quality leather costs money, just as a material. Having it skillfully crafted, even for something as simple as a belt, costs more money. There's a reason your basic who-cares brand sneakers will cost less than $100, but a pair of quality leather dress shoes or work boots will cost several hundred or even several thousand dollars. If I can't get a decent actually-leather belt for $30, I somehow doubt that $30 pup hood is even so much as "bonded leather". Real leather that is strong enough to BDSM properly, without risk of (unconsenting) injury can't be that cheap.

The actual staff in question has responded as well. Revealing themselves to be; "BabyDrake" - Link
Looks to be a trans(?) babyfur

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This is the journal I saw first and it just links off from there: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/11159724/

Phone posting at the moment, so my shits all stupid.

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[Noebel]

Real leather

I bet there's a few I can't believe it's not Leather types that would suffice. They can be buying these.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

The way it's worded does make it seem like it's a deeper issue then just "people are upset which is why we are reverting our position."

They have to imply that there's more to the issue than just people being mad, or else face the wrath of marauding troon gangs for "catering to transphobes". Managing retards online is a delicate business.

Although, with the way FA is designed I wouldn't be that surprised if it was in fact load-bearing homosexuality.

 

[Desumorphine]

They have to imply that there's more to the issue than just people being mad, or else face the wrath of marauding troon gangs for "catering to transphobes". Managing retards online is a delicate business.

Although, with the way FA is designed I wouldn't be that surprised if it was in fact load-bearing homosexuality.

I mean, removing the gender drop-down straight up cripples the browsing function, which is by far the most utilized feature on the site, being that it is the only reliable way to actually find shit. So, yeah, it probably was that lol

 

[Moonglade Feral Druid]

I mean, removing the gender drop-down straight up cripples the browsing function, which is by far the most utilized feature on the site, being that it is the only reliable way to actually find shit. So, yeah, it probably was that lol

Yep, and randomly choosing submission IDs is a total crapshoot. Probably able to make it automated though.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I think I noticed something: it seems those who are not "furries" like anthro-animal characters looking cool or intimidating, like the Kzinti of the '70s animated Star Trek. Meanwhile, it seems that people who are "furries" like anthropomorphic characters to look disturbingly sexual -- despite the animal heads (that are usually canine in looks).

 

[Judge Dredd]

Can anyone who is a web dev explain. They removed gender seemingly on a whim, but adding it back in is some kind of massive undertaking. Why? Couldn't they just roll it back to a previous version?

And, I won't put money on this, but I have suspect they'll only revert the change after pride month is over.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Can anyone who is a web dev explain. They removed gender seemingly on a whim, but adding it back in is some kind of massive undertaking. Why? Couldn't they just roll it back to a previous version?

It's very bold of you to assume Furaffinity has anything approaching a versioning system.