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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Rupert lowe's petition just passed the 100k needed to be considered for parliamentary debate. Link Archive

I was about to post this but you beat me to it.
Wanna know what pisses me off about Lucy Connolly's prison sentence? I'm going to tell you anyway.

Okay, let's say somebody with a massive Xitter following of malleable idiots posts a credible incitement to violence. That's bad. That probably passes the limits of free speech.

Some nobody writes something that could be construed as incitement to arson and almost nobody reads it? That's nothing of consequence. Is that really worth two and a half years in prison? You'd get less for IRL attempted arson, I suspect.

BUT. During a mass outpouring of national grief – because once again a 1st or 2nd gen immigrant has committed something fucking heinous – a woman heartbroken by the mass stabbing of little girls writes some angry words into her phone about burning it all down, but she deletes it a couple of hours later once she's calmed down.
No fucking way should anyone get sent down for 2.5 years for a spicy tweet in that context. Least of all the mother of a young girl.

It really boils my piss. The fact that so few in the HoC want to talk about it makes me want to post about burning it all down too, but I won't because I also have children to look after.
 
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Rupert lowe's petition just passed the 100k needed to be considered for parliamentary debate. Link Archive
Key point: 100k signatures after ONE DAY.

Some nobody writes something that could be construed as incitement to arson and almost nobody reads it? That's nothing of consequence. Is that really worth two and a half years in prison? You'd get less for IRL attempted arson, I suspect.
The key point is that the laws are so sinister that you can't really say 'not guilty', if they were being charged with inciting the public then they could argue they were not guilty.

"Connolly was arrested twice and interviewed, and was charged under section 19(1) of the Public Order Act 1986, which provides a person who publishes or distributes written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting is guilty of an offence if they intend thereby to stir up racial hatred, or having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby."

I mean look at how autistic the wording is there, it's such a complete clusterfuck of phrases that makes it almost impossible to argue against writing the twitter post despite it allowing zero context.

Saying that, I wish more people had said 'not guilty' so it'd have resulted in the courts being completely clogged up and the chance of cases being dropped.
 
Key point: 100k signatures after ONE DAY.


The key point is that the laws are so sinister that you can't really say 'not guilty', if they were being charged with inciting the public then they could argue they were not guilty.

"Connolly was arrested twice and interviewed, and was charged under section 19(1) of the Public Order Act 1986, which provides a person who publishes or distributes written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting is guilty of an offence if they intend thereby to stir up racial hatred, or having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby."

I mean look at how autistic the wording is there, it's such a complete clusterfuck of phrases that makes it almost impossible to argue against writing the twitter post despite it allowing zero context.

Saying that, I wish more people had said 'not guilty' so it'd have resulted in the courts being completely clogged up and the chance of cases being dropped.
Agreed, what's happened to Lucy is nothing short of a national scandal.

When released, she needs to take legal action.

Some brilliant news for Reform UK as, according to Ipsos, over a third of the electorate is now backing them and want Nigel as the next PM.

In addition, 95% of Reform UK voters at the 2024 GE have stuck with the party, and 1 in 3 Tories have switched to Reform UK.

In contrast, Labour has lost 12% of its 2024 GE voters to Reform UK, 8% to the Liberal Democrats and 5% to the Green Party.

With Reform UK's trajectory going upwards, with only the Liberal Democrats the only other main party to make any growth (up to 11%) the death spiral of Labour and the Tories is not far away.

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Agreed, what's happened to Lucy is nothing short of a national scandal.

When released, she needs to take legal action.

Some brilliant news for Reform UK as, according to Ipsos, over a third of the electorate is now backing them and want Nigel as the next PM.

In addition, 95% of Reform UK voters at the 2024 GE have stuck with the party, and 1 in 3 Tories have switched to Reform UK.

In contrast, Labour has lost 12% of its 2024 GE voters to Reform UK, 8% to the Liberal Democrats and 5% to the Green Party.

With Reform UK's trajectory going upwards, with only the Liberal Democrats the only other main party to make any growth (up to 11%) the death spiral of Labour and the Tories is not far away.

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fuck I just hope that it ends up at least starting to turn around this immigration disaster ship. and can be pivoted harder. I don't like that Muslim chairman. I guess I can understand the tactic of having him, but they need to ditch him the day after they are elected
 
Well that was fast.
No protestor child, you will NOT vandalise my planes again, enjoy proscription!
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/a...ize-notion-raf-planes-s0kbfpqmh?region=global/https://archive.is/jC26l
The activists Palestine Action are expected to be proscribed as a terrorist group within weeks, it is understood, after members vandalised two aircraft at the RAF’s largest base.
Security at all Britain’s military facilities is being reviewed after the incident in which two activists sneaked into RAF Brize Norton and rode across the runway on electric scooters in one of the most serious breaches of defence security for decades.
They sprayed red paint into the engines of two Airbus Voyager tankers, used for air-to-air refuelling, and caused further damage to the aircraft using crowbars. The cost of repairs is estimated at up to £1 million.


The activists also sprayed red paint across the runway of the Oxfordshire base before escaping undetected. Video of their actions was posted online by Palestine Action on Friday morning.

Counterterrorism police are leading the investigation. The video showed that the intruders were close to the Vespina aircraft, an adapted Voyager used by members of the royal family and the prime minister.
Sir Keir Starmer wrote on X: “The act of vandalism committed at RAF Brize Norton is disgraceful … It is our responsibility to support those who defend us.” Last week he announced that military aircraft including air-to-air refuelling tankers were being sent the the Middle East “for contingency support in the region”.
John Healey, the defence secretary, said: “I am really disturbed that this happened and have ordered an investigation and a review of wider security at our bases.”

Dan Jarvis, the security minister, is expected to make a statement in parliament on Monday announcing that the group will be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after months of legal discussions amid growing concerns that its protests are threatening public safety and national security.
The incident at RAF Brize Norton is understood to have accelerated efforts to ban the group, although it will take several more weeks to pass the necessary legislation to add it to the proscribed list of terrorist organisations.
That would make it a criminal offence to belong to Palestine Action, attend its meetings or show any support for its activities, with a maximum penalty of 14 years in jail. Even those showing support for the group by wearing clothing bearing its logo, for example, would face six months in jail and a maximum fine of £5,000.
This was a recommendation in a report carried out by Lord Walney last year when he was serving as the government’s independent adviser on political violence.

He told The Times: “The drumbeat of action from Palestine Action makes it clearly arguable that they actually reach the terrorist threshold and I hope ministers are urgently reconsidering that.”
Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, and Nigel Farage, the Reform leader, had quickly demanded Palestine Action be proscribed as a terrorist organisation after the attack on Brize Norton.
Security experts said the incident highlighted the risk of sabotage at Britain’s military bases and speculated that Russia or Iran could covertly be behind it.
Palestine Action has previously targeted companies it claims supply weapons to Israel and vandalised a portrait of Arthur Balfour at Cambridge University for his role in the creation of Israel.
The campaign group said in a statement: “By putting the planes out of service, activists have interrupted Britain’s direct participation in the commission of genocide and war crimes across the Middle East.” It claimed the Voyager aircraft were used to refuel Israeli jets, although they do not use compatible systems.
Asked about the possibility of being proscribed as a terrorist organisation, it had responded: “When our government fails to uphold their moral and legal obligations, it is the responsibility of ordinary citizens to take direct action. The terrorists are the ones committing a genocide, not those who break the tools used to commit it.”
RAF Brize Norton has about 5,800 service personnel, 300 civilian staff and 1,200 contractors. It is the base for the RAF’s Air Mobility Force, providing strategic and tactical air transport and air-to-air refuelling.



The strategic defence review published this month highlighted “the changing nature” of threats and said “particular attention should be given to contingency planning for RAF Brize Norton, the main hub in the UK for much of what the RAF delivers globally.”
Air Marshal Greg Bagwell, the UK’s first director of joint warfare and now a fellow of the Royal United Services Institute, said: “This is another wake-up call for our domestic security on bases — whether it be enemy drones, or activists on e-scooters, we need to be better prepared and protected.”
He added: “We need to look at the full range of threats and decide what we need in place to counter these threats. We have been lucky in recent decades because there has not been that threat, but the situation has changed.”
Bagwell speculated that Russia or Iran may have had a hand in the security breach. “It is certainly the sort of activity carried out by foreign agents and they could have influenced the activists,” he said.
“They [Russian or Iran] were either behind this or rubbing their hands with glee. This is exactly the sort of thing a foreign power tries to do to paralyse military activity.”
A government source confirmed that the group would be proscribed, pending a vote by both houses of parliament within the coming weeks.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/palestine-action-uk-defence-industry-3dxq5zgwm/https://archive.is/8XJMc
We are tired of being ignored. It is up to all of us to stop this complicity” were the words that launched Palestine Action almost five years ago.
Founded by Huda Ammori, who has Palestinian and Iraqi heritage, and Richard Barnard, a veteran left-wing activist, the fledgling group said direct action should be taken against Elbit Systems, a weapons manufacturer that they claim “profits from Israel’s war crimes”.
Two months later, in September 2020, they did just that. Activists occupied a factory in Shenstone, in Staffordshire, smashing windows, drilling holes into ceilings, throwing air conditioning units to the ground and dousing the building in red paint.


The demonstration marked the start of co-ordinated attempts to damage both the defence firm facilities and finances across the country, which have propelled the group on a path towards proscription.

Throughout 2021 Palestine Action widened its activities, occupying a drone factory in Leicester. The occupation lasted six days, and ten arrests were made for conspiracy to commit criminal damage and aggravated trespass. The defendants were cleared after the trial judge instructed the jury to consider the common law defence of Necessity.

After launching their Scottish branch, they targeted Thales, another defence firm. Having infiltrated its Glasgow facility in 2022, the activists allegedly caused more than £1 million of damage. Five were jailed after members of the group threw a smoke bomb into an area where staff were being evacuated.
Protesters in red suits and balaclavas also caused hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage to an electronics plant in Wales that year, which they believed was making circuit boards for Israeli drones.


The group’s activities ramped up after the October 7, 2023 attacks. As Israeli forces announced a “full siege” on Gaza, Palestine Action published a list of over 50 targets “complicit in Elbit’s murderous arms trade”.
A few days later they sprayed the headquarters of the BBC — which wasn’t on the list — with red paint to “symbolise complicity in genocide”. Protestors also blockaded Lockheed Martin in Bedford, smeared red paint over the Foreign Office and targeted the headquarters of aerospace firm Leonardo, at which two men were arrested for what the Met called racially aggravated criminal damage.
Their actions began to go beyond scaling roof tops and breaking factory windows. Members of the campaign group allegedly used a modified prison van to ram the entrance of Elbit’s Bristol HQ last summer. Once inside they dismantled weapons, allegedly caused £1 million in damage and assaulted two officers were with a sledgehammer, police said. Eighteen people were charged and held on remand over the break-in.
Less than a month after members of Just Stop Oil threw tomato soup at Vincent van Gogh’s Sunflowers painting, two Palestine Action members squirted tomato ketchup at a statue of former prime minister Arthur Balfour.

The former foreign secretary has been a focus of activist anger as he was the signatory of the Balfour Declaration, a 1917 document that pledged support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
In March 2024, the group used blades to slash a painting of Lord Balfour hanging in the University of Cambridge. Seven months later — to mark the declaration’s anniversary — they reportedly stole two busts of Israel’s first president from the University of Manchester’s chemistry building.
As Palestine Action grew in notoriety and numbers, the British state also became a target. Early in 2024, six members were arrested for allegedly plotting to prevent the London Stock Exchange from opening.
Activists have inevitably attracted the attention of authorities and received jail time. Among the first to be hauled before the courts were five members in November 2022, who had covered Elbit’s Kingsway offices in their, now signature, red paint.


They were, however, acquitted by a jury of “conspiracy to commit criminal damage” and the offices later closed. Palestine Action declared a victory for this and for the closure of an Elbit factory in Oldham, where their sustained protests had resulted in 36 arrests.
In August 2024, five members of the group were handed custodial sentences for protest action. It took two years for the courts to hand out suspended prison sentences and order the protesters to pay more than £5,000 in compensation after seven activists broke into the Bristol headquarters of Elbit to destroy equipment.
Zoë Rogers turned 21 in prison. She had been charged with criminal damage, violent disorder and aggravated burglary in relation to the Bristol incident after telling her mother, Clare, that the pro-Palestine marches “weren’t working”. She was denied bail and is on remand with a trial set for November 2025.
Fatema Zainab was arrested and charged as part of the same operation.
As the court system caught up in December 2023, two members of a group known as the Elbit Eight, Genevieve Scherer and Jocelyn Cooney, were acquitted on charges relatingfrom July 2020 to January 2021. Their defence had argued that they were justified in “working to disrupt manufacture of Israel’s weaponry”.
Richard Barnard was convicted of one count of criminal damage at the now-closed Elbit factory in Oldham.
100% glow op IMO, they started being too annoying went off the plantation and needed shutting down.
 
fuck I just hope that it ends up at least starting to turn around this immigration disaster ship. and can be pivoted harder. I don't like that Muslim chairman. I guess I can understand the tactic of having him, but they need to ditch him the day after they are elected
I'm tempted to agree, as Zia has been a distraction, but he has also chipped in and sadly we can't turn the big bucks down at the moment.

My hope is that the Right can eventually unify into one solid mass and that a few years of Farage as PM will then morph into phase two which will be long term stability and the ability to Make Britain Great Again.

Despite the problems Reform UK have had (needless and senseless) they've treaded water well but cannot rely on just Labour cocking everything up in order to get in - Reform UK have got to hammer home the Common Sense policies and that they are the only option if we want to return to how things used to be, when this country was great, prices were affordable and people were happy - remember happiness... before 2020 and the world going to shit in a kettle.

Zia will probably go within six months of Nigel becoming PM and some of the 'elder statesmen' of the party will also not last five years including Richard Tice who has been very loyal to the party and funded it alone until Nigel's return.

The key will be getting enough young people to pick up the mantle once Tice, Anderson, Farage etc. have retired - even Arron Banks as a donor is 59 and not getting any younger. Once that is solved, I can honestly hand on heart say that Reform UK (or whatever they'll be called in the future) will do at least 25 years in Government unless the opposition ditches Woke and can actually outdo the Government. Perhaps a new Socialist Movement of 'by-the-people-for-the-people' types can make a difference, but they will face the same challenges and issues that Reform UK did unless the system is completely abolished and changed into something which benefits the ordinary people first.

Currently, I have little faith in any other opposition being able to outdo Reform UK on the things that really matter, and this should make it easier for Nigel to move into No. 10. That's not his or Reform UK's fault, it's due to the fact that we have a weak and pathetic hierarchy in charge which would rather jail a White man for misgendering a penguin than arrest an Asian man for rape.

Edit: @Mount Dweller is right about the 'Glowies' and if they have indeed gone 'off script' and 'rogue', then we need to watch their next steps carefully, especially with the new DEI hire at MI6.
 
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It's probably the one I"m in the minority here. but in principle i support the right to die. In principle I'm for giving people a gracious exit if they want it
You always have the right to end your own life. I am very uneasy about creating an industry for it and even more uneasy go the state has a hand in it. It attracts serial killers - remember the Canadian ‘do toe’ who has kills four hundred plus people this way? She’s ’looking forward’ to doing more
Bets on this assisted dying bill ending very badly very quickly?
Well it will for anyone who gets killed by it.
Ah timely. We just discussed this last week
NHS are to map the DNA of every single child "to be in front of disease". There's no mention of an opt-out.
Oh. I wonder if this is the one Amazon or one of rhe other mega corps is involved with. Your data will of course be leaked, of it can’t legally be sold
When released, she needs to take legal action.
I’m not even going to type what she needs to do.
 
My hope is that the Right can eventually unify into one solid mass and that a few years of Farage as PM will then morph into phase two which will be long term stability and the ability to Make Britain Great Again.
Whereas my hope is that every Conservative MP over the past 14 years is lined up against a wall. I don't give a single fuck if Reform end up being as awful as the Tories, but 14 years of Conservative rule effectively fucked the country more than anything I have experienced in my lifetime. I DO NOT WANT A REFORM-CONSERVATIVE COALITION. I want the total death of the Tory party.
 
Whereas my hope is that every Conservative MP over the past 14 years is lined up against a wall. I don't give a single fuck if Reform end up being as awful as the Tories, but 14 years of Conservative rule effectively fucked the country more than anything I have experienced in my lifetime. I DO NOT WANT A REFORM-CONSERVATIVE COALITION. I want the total death of the Tory party.
By the right, I mean everybody bar the Tories who will be a former party by then.

I'm talking everything from Jenrick/Cates type National Conservatives (who are too Right Wing for the Tories) to Britain First and beyond.

A moderate stance and common sense attitude to running the country will benefit all.

Personally, I'm not into the BNP/NF politics but I would always allow them to be platformed - I try to be more pragmatic than reactionary, though I know sometimes actions do speak a lot louder than words.
 
Okay, let's say somebody with a massive Xitter following of malleable idiots posts a credible incitement to violence. That's bad. That probably passes the limits of free speech.
You aren't responsible for what idiots on social media do. Your free speech limits shouldn't be "Maybe Abdulah will hurt someone because of this post." We have to stop building culture around Twitter

I signed up to say thank you to @Made In Wales you're my primary news source. Too much celebrity gossip to sort through to get to the real news on internet news sites.

The British class system isn't about income brackets, it's about how you live your life. The power balance was changed during the 80s when a new class of elites were created. The Yuppy movement were globalists moving around fake money to get very rich in a short time span. Their culture and influx of money created a new class in Britain called the New Money class. They are the people in charge since the 2000s and who have lead to the collapse of the country.

Lower Class
Scum. They're dirty, thieving swines who constantly cause problems for each other. When you hear council estate you should avoid or Gypo this is what you're talking about. Most are on benefits, don't use protection and create feral kids. They spend their money on fags, booze and live hand to mouth with pawn shops keeping them fed occasionally. Even if they win the lottery it goes on fags and booze. They can live intermixed with the working class but they're usually the problem kids in school or the ones living in a mould filled flat they never clean.


Working Class.
Majority of the country and they're mostly decent people. They have a small amount of savings and go on holiday with the kids once a year. The poorer ones are on benefits but they act like everyone around them. Working class can be richer than the middle class and often own their own businesses but live the working class life style. The richer ones will buy a bigger TV and fancier cars but their culture and how they interact with the world is still the same. They can replace a broken TV or buy a new second hand car every few years but they're very little Britain and like the people they're around. Lots of villages are made up of the working class, living in houses their families help build after WW2. "Rural working class" might own a nice sized house, but they're still not well off in real terms. They are happy living a meat and 2 veg life with the telly and a playstation. The ones that have the money to move don't because their families and history is all in the same region.

Middle Class
Bastards, the lot of them. Middle management dickheads who want to meddle with everything. They are what everyone else has described them as and worse. They want to be the New money elites so they embrace globalism and worm their way into minor positions of power to push it. They arrange things like the Pride parades and tell you how well cultured they are. They are race traitors and will tell you about their friendly Sikh, who hates Pakis as much as you. They only get upset when brown people move close to them and start littering around them. They aren't actually racist and would embrace globalism and enforce the collapse of the country all over again if only those damn brown people would live some where else. They are also the primary people buying and mortgaging houses to rent to the working class. Getting a free house because the bank sees middle class as a safe mortgage and they can outbid the working class.

Old Money Elites
The old British elite who say "what what what" and like hunting. They have a lot of family money but it's tied up in stately homes and land. They are generally agreeable sorts who respect the working class and have to deal with them on their estates or by being local councilors. They used to run the country and make up the house of lords style political class but got replaced by the New Money Elites. They are almost all gone now and the few remaining are side lined and have their big homes as tourist locations. They're a bit loopy, have odd quirks and like peasant shooting. They cared about the country because they relied on a stable Britain to have any social standing. King Charles of Pakistan, London doesn't have any standing and that's what kept them in line. Lords and Ladies don't want to be known as lord Rape gang town.

New Money Elites
Yuppies and lawyers. When you say globalist you think of these twats and their middle class minions. Their families made a lot of money on the stock market or through international lawyering. They have no loyalty and no class so they will fight tooth and nail to tear down any country that has a culture outside of globalism. They want a fully open global market, full human movement and a total enforcement of any bullshit they can legally cripple you with. Kier Starmer and Tony Blair are the poster child for these people. They think they're better than you because they have money and they're spoiled brats with unlimited ambition. They are the people who took over the country and decided they needed to destroy it to punish the Old Money Elites. They don't care because they can move away any time they want. They are globally rich and not just locally rich. Their money is invested in stocks, housing across the globe and they act like vultures any time a penny can be made. They harm Britain because it keeps their choke hold on the country and stops any one else rising up to replace them. They have the money to buy the protection from the problems they cause, but any one else has to fight off hordes of rapey invaders making it difficult to collect power or wealth to rival them. Any sort of political movement growing at a council level will see a bunch of pakis moved into a nearby hotel to mess with the voting there and weaken parties like Reform. Which isn't helped by the conservatives putting brown people in charge thinking they can keep the rapey pakis voting for them by sharing a skin colour. I can't be the only one who noticed after the success of Reform many of their seats got browner within weeks of them winning them.

There is a third class of Elites different to the New money type but they're foreigners and don't work into the British class system. They buy up football teams, big houses in London and own a lot of the country's assets. They don't live here and sell things when the novelty wears off. They are asset stripping the country and consider it a stock for their portfolio. They fund new mosques and support their countrymen. They're hard to pin down because Chinese, Arabs and Americans doing this aren't a unified group and their culture doesn't impact their investment purchases.

You always have the right to end your own life. I am very uneasy about creating an industry for it and even more uneasy go the state has a hand in it. It attracts serial killers - remember the Canadian ‘do toe’ who has kills four hundred plus people this way? She’s ’looking forward’ to doing more
Trying to die by NHS would take years and by then you will already be dead or in a state where you can't consent any more. Labour have brought in 2 bills where they are looking to kill people and used them as a smoke screen for the rape gang report. They're evil, baby killers and now they want to open the doors to offing old folks because they like people dying and being replaced. No one with a brain thinks assisted suicide is a bad idea for people with serious problems that want to end their life. The problem is evil people are writing laws about it and creating an industry instead of stepping aside and letting common sense decriminalize assisted suicide with as little red tape as possible. The local GP can tell you if Doris was wanting to kill herself or if someone murdered her. A 3 year wait for a panel of twats to decide if she can kill herself or not is barbaric and managers ruining lives.
 
My hope is that the Right can eventually unify into one solid mass and that a few years of Farage as PM will then morph into phase two which will be long term stability and the ability to Make Britain Great Again.
Yeah, what we need it for the proper right to filtrate the Reform part without revealing too much and get into as many positions as possible.

for the the future of the country comes down to a hard reversal on immigration. not just stopping it but actively deporting people. a fucking lot of them. anything else isn't not good enough.
 
@Kofi Drinka Many thanks for those kind comments, I do my best to entertain and to be informative.

@Zoot 100% agree, and I am sure that it will come around soon with Reform UK in charge. The ECHR has lost the goodwill and support of many people (even on the Left - the supposed feminists etc. who are also concerned about rape gangs and the safety of children) and one more Southport type incident will see the move towards axing it and all the other 'PC' establishments greatly accelerated.
 
Have the NHS said how they are going to kill us all yet?
Two options as I see it:
1. NHS to waste millions buying (defective) suicide pods
Hopefully they don't fail!
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2. 1:1 copy of Canada's MAiD. I read how they did. Grim as fuck, honestly.
Once the person has consented to go ahead, the MAiD practitioner will often move to a different room or space to complete paperwork and get the medications ready. The MAiD practitioner or a nurse will insert a needle into the vein (IV). The person and those present will be given privacy if they wish to say their final goodbyes. The MAiD practitioners will help those present be in the positions the person would like, eg. lying next to them, holding hands, in sight or out of sight.

Whenever the person is ready the MAiD practitioner will ask again if they want to go ahead and if they do, they will begin to put the medications through the IV:

The first drug deeply relaxes the person and they begin to lose consciousness. Sometimes the person will mumble something that can’t be understood. Some people snore or yawn or take one or two big breaths.
The second drug puts the person into a deep coma. Often the mouth will fall open as the jaw muscles relax.
The third drug stops their breathing and heart, and results in death. Because they are in a coma, they are not aware of their heart and lungs stopping. The person will not lose control of their bowels or bladder, and the colour will slowly fade from their face and body.
Even if it appears that the person has died, all the drugs will be given. The MAiD practitioner will listen for heart sounds with their stethoscope and let those present know that the person has died. The body will become cool to the touch and the color of the body will change as time passes.

It usually takes between 5 and 20 minutes to give all the medications, and for the heart to stop. Many people die in the first few minutes because they are so ill.

Although those who provide MAiD do their best to prepare those present for the sudden change in the person from being alert to no longer alive, some people are surprised by how quickly the person dies. Most assisted deaths have been described by healthcare professionals and families who have been present as painless and peaceful.

Although it is legal in Canada to have a self-administered medically assisted death (where the person takes prescribed medication by mouth themselves), this is still rare in Canada. In many provinces and territories, the only type of assisted death that is available is where the physician or nurse practitioner gives the medications through IV.
 
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