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Should be a wild four years.

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I don’t get it why is Alaska pozzed
I meant that other states would likely adopt the law but pozzed states like New York, Maryland, and California probably won't

WHOSE STREETS?: Y'ALLS STREETS!
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I know they're somewhat aware of the bad optics of attacking police, blocking traffic, burning cars, and waving foreign flags while cursing the US in foreign languages. Why are they trying this shit again on the American holiday. Go to your family's bbq, retards
 
I'm talking about small towns and very small cities because this isn't a crowd that likes cities

retaking the cities is easy too though, you just have to have the will
Frankly cities are almost archaic holdovers from a time in human history when the automobile, long distance communication, and the Internet didn't exist. You had to have all of your workers near the factory for production, important decision makers had to be in close vicinity to each other to govern, etc. I just don't see the purpose of it anymore.

To put an even finer point on it, I've honestly questioned if we are even biologically wired to live in cities. I know there is that study on mice, but frankly I just think of any large mammal you read about, how they will say a bear or a tiger's territory can be so many square miles. Maybe humans are the same way, I don't know if being crammed with no personal space is a biological healthy thing for the human mind. At least not for whites anyway.
 
If Trump does do an attack/invasion of Iran, it will be the only thing remembered about his presidency. Maga will split in it's fanbase between supporting the bombing and not. The right will never win again, with both his invasion (Bush Jr 2.0) and mass changes in demographics
That's simply not going to happen with regular lefties mocking and deriding Democrats/neolibs on a daily basis on xitter and elsewhere online. If Dems concoct anything resembling a plan to get the lefties back on their plantation, I'll reconsider that position, but for now I'm not interested in engaging in this back-and-forth semantics gaming on 'um ackshually dems have a chance :geek:'.

I've maintained since the election that "they" knew very unpopular things would have to be done (war, Palantir surveillance) and that most of his supporters would figure out Donboi wasn't what he appeared or promised. Too many narratives to juggle. This is why they try to carefully position JD as the alternative but also as carrying the mantel, which is why he is out against going into Iran.

Right after the election tho, the normie astroturfed comments went from total foaming-at-the-mouth bluehair to mirroring the "grassroots" alt-left influencers . That alt-left also started coordinating together a lot more too. This left is more the "principled' or "investigative " left we saw after the war in Iraq.

Meaning, "they" funded the alt-right from the start to get us here and to Donboi. Now they're seeding the alt-left to control that side when we swing back. Only problem for Kiwis is the "principled" alt-left doesn't really have any lolcows.

Nothing. No reason for the US not to just hand Israel the material and have them do it for us. That's basically the entire benefit of keeping Israel around from a US perspective.

I don't understand why they don't do this. Why doesn't Israel already have the training for the plane? They need us involved for another reason, imho.

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Frankly cities are almost archaic holdovers from a time in human history when the automobile, long distance communication, and the Internet didn't exist. You had to have all of your workers near the factory for production, important decision makers had to be in close vicinity to each other to govern, etc. I just don't see the purpose of it anymore.

To put an even finer point on it, I've honestly questioned if we are even biologically wired to live in cities. I know there is that study on mice, but frankly I just think of any large mammal you read about, how they will say a bear or a tiger's territory can be so many square miles. Maybe humans are the same way, I don't know if being crammed with no personal space is a biological healthy thing for the human mind. At least not for whites anyway.

I mean research has sorta shown, I think, how humans can really only keep straight a close network of at most maybe 40. We're able to create larger social structures but obviously they lean toward de-humanization. I'd agree, we were never meant to grow beyond small tribes and would probably be happier if we could live like that again.

I'd miss all you young weirdo Kiwis with your voices in the void, but fuck it, let me raise my cauliflower and broccoli in the woods like my ancestors wanted.
 
Frankly cities are almost archaic holdovers from a time in human history when the automobile, long distance communication, and the Internet didn't exist. You had to have all of your workers near the factory for production, important decision makers had to be in close vicinity to each other to govern, etc. I just don't see the purpose of it anymore.

To put an even finer point on it, I've honestly questioned if we are even biologically wired to live in cities. I know there is that study on mice, but frankly I just think of any large mammal you read about, how they will say a bear or a tiger's territory can be so many square miles. Maybe humans are the same way, I don't know if being crammed with no personal space is a biological healthy thing for the human mind. At least not for whites anyway.
Cities, at least in America, are the only places doing fine. They have robust, diverse economies, NYC, LA, Boston, Atlanta, SF, Miami, etc (Houston is just a giant parking lot) are good examples of this and the only real places with jobs. A lot of the crime is mainly due to the administration and more relaxed laws with criminals. The only good small towns/suburbs are near those big cities. Sadly, the ones not close to big cities are dying like in Appalachia and the Rust Belt are the ones driving the despair and issues with America, which are mostly in the interior of the country.

>Move out of the cities, years of leftist policies ruined them, and drugs
>Move out of the small town, everyone is moving because no jobs, no money, and drugs

The American paradox
 
If sponsoring terrorists justifies bombing you would also be calling for us to bomb Qatar or Saudi Arabia, strangely it’s just the state sponsor of terrorism Israel and hawk think tank hates that should be bombed…….
Iran openly calls for destroying the US and funds groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. I always hear stuff about how Israel funds all the terrorists but very little evidence beyond 4chan infographics.
If this could be ended sooner with American tech, why doesn't America just give the required stuff to Israel so they can achieve their goal without direct involvement?
We already gave them F-35s. I don't think this is a technical issue. I think the dirty little secret is the US wants to try gunboat diplomacy and not regime change; but God forbid you mention it in this thread or certain people will start sperging about Jews.
This is why you folks are so easy for neocons to trick.

They never say the quiet part out loud. The quiet part being: You can’t accomplish Trumps goals without boots on the ground.

So they start with a bombing, and in order not to lose face, THEN they escalate with boots on the ground, despite all the: “No trust me bro! It’s just a little bombing! Not even a war!” A few weeks previously.

Failing that, they'll wait until Iran strikes back at American troops or planes attacking them, and demand a real war to avenge the bloodshed that they caused in the first place.
Wait a second: why can't Trump accomplish his goals without boots on the ground? You say that as a given, but you have to explain that first. I understand the urge to jump to "OMG BOOTS ON THE GROUND AAAAHHH!!!!" but you have to explain that part to me.
 
Iran openly calls for destroying the US and funds groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. I always hear stuff about how Israel funds all the terrorists but very little evidence beyond 4chan infographics.
Way to avoid the Qatar and Saudi question and bring it back to Israel, and you complain about others Jew sperging.

No where did I say shit about Israel funding terrorists all I did was point out that hawks are weirdly silent on state sponsors of Terror that work with Israel
 
Way to avoid the Qatar and Saudi question and bring it back to Israel, and you complain about others Jew sperging
Way to avoid the Iran openly funding terrorism and calling to destroy the US and its allies question. If you want to simp for a country that openly hates the United States, then have at it. I guess it's true what they say: there's a sucker born every minute.
 
If you think developers in states that aren't mostly federal land fill it with wall to wall housing, you've never driven across America in your life. You probably live in New Jersey or Boston or something. This is a map of federal lands:

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Drive across Oklahoma and tell me it's "filled wall to wall" with housing with a straight face. Better yet, try driving from Dallas to Lubbock without dying of boredom from all the nothing you drive through. Drive the length of Tennessee and tell me about all that "wall to wall" housing you drove through.

People who don't know anything about America west of the Appalachians have the strongest opinions about wilderness.
The angst about this is purely because Trump is once again doing something nobody else had the guts to do.

There is only one condition to the land sale and that is that it must be sold to Americans and that those deeds be marked such that they cannot be resold to a foreigner. Ever.
 
Way to avoid the Iran openly funding terrorism and calling to destroy the US and its allies question. If you want to simp for a country that openly hates the United States, then have at it. I guess it's true what they say: there's a sucker born every minute.
I don’t care for Iran but you can’t pretend there isnt a very blatant double standard going on.

How come when gulf Arabs or pakistanis give money to people saying death to America we buddy up with them but with Iran it’s suddenly omg we need to stop them.

This isn’t simping I just dont think you can do regime change without a invasion, if we think we can do it with bombing we should make a honest go of it but I don’t think that’s enough. I personally think Israel is going to deal with the issue long before it’s a real threat to us anyways
 
I don’t care for Iran but you can’t pretend there is a very blatant double standard going on.
The IRGC is explicitly involved in training and arming terrorists. Qatar is currently in deep shit with the Arab League because some of its officials have been implicated in supporting terrorism; they're not getting away with it. Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt all severed relations with Qatar and blockaded it because of their chicanery. This idea that they operate freely and without any punishment is demonstrably false. Saudi Arabia got fucky during the reign of Abdullah because he suffered a stroke in 1995 that debilitated him. After he died and Salman took over, Saudi Arabia has been far more cooperative with the US regarding the elimination of anti-US elements in their government and with counter-terrorism operations.

TL;DR: Qatar is under sanction from all its neighbors and Saudi Arabia has been much more cooperative with counter-terrorism since 2015. Iran has been aggressively non-compliant for decades.
 
TL;DR: Qatar is under sanction from all its neighbors and Saudi Arabia has been much more cooperative with counter-terrorism since 2015.
Oh great that will totally unspend the billions of dollars used to promote Wahhabism in the west. The funding for Sunni Islamist groups etc

We don’t even sanction Qatar either so I don’t get your point, nor is there politicians everywhere calling for regime change
 
The angst about this is purely because Trump is once again doing something nobody else had the guts to do.

There is only one condition to the land sale and that is that it must be sold to Americans and that those deeds be marked such that they cannot be resold to a foreigner. Ever.

Oh thank God, only being sold to Americans. I for one can't wait for Peter Thiel's and Elon Musk's Super-Patriot Freedom Cities. The one in Greenland is going to be lit af.

Wait, you did know about their technocratic projects in Greenland, right?? Right??????
 
Way to avoid the Iran openly funding terrorism and calling to destroy the US and its allies question. If you want to simp for a country that openly hates the United States, then have at it. I guess it's true what they say: there's a sucker born every minute.
Everybody chants death to America. A bigger problem Americans actually face are the hordes of foreigners with their own enclaves that actively kill Americans and do organized crime smuggling drugs and weaponry. That's more important than dying for Israel. Massive portions of the Southwest have pretty much been given to Mexico all in but name. There hasn't been a President ballsy enough to just hand it to them officially in the name of decolonization. We have hordes of muslims here right now that were mass imported over the past couple of decades and groups of them are trying to secede by setting up Sharia Law zones like in Europe. Getting rid of them is more important than dying for Israel to import more muslims into the US once we bomb them out of Iran.
 
Now you're the one ignoring the question. Enjoy being a simp for Iran, you silly bastard.
Where is the furor over other states sponsors of terrorism? You don’t think it’s in the slightest sketchy we only talk about regime change when they just so happen to go against Israeli interests?

I don’t care about Iran, you are the one saying the saudis are good bois who dindu nuffin
 
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