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Trump shouldn't have struck Iran directly. He should've just done what Biden did in Ukraine; offer covert support, but keep America's hands clean.
Covert? The nigga handed Ukraine a blank check and openly shovled BILLIONS of dollars worth of military hardware into the country. Our involvement was so explicit that if the Ukraine fiasco was an actual declared war, we would be considered a cobelligerent under international law.
 
Iran has shown it doesn't back down. Trump's strikes serve the same purpose as Israel's. To start a war.

I wish eternal hell and suffering on Israel and all the kike-loving trump supporters who think so little of their own race that they wish to see their brothers harmed for JEW interests. Burn in hell you race traitors.
 
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If the democrat party took a staunch anti-Isreal stance in alignment with their majority voting bases beliefs, they'll probably swing back into power even with all their current dysfunction.

Thankfully, AIPAC has also rammed their kike hands deeply up every Democrat politicians asshole, so there is literally 0% chance of it ever occurring.

At this point, I'm firmly convinced America will collapse before Israel ever does. Much like a parasite killing its host.
I'm hoping Israel's liberal politicians will realize that with Likud essentially controlling AIPAC, and by extension the US military, Bibi and the gang can hold onto to power indefinitely by formenting regional wars. If they form a competing lobby, perhaps by reworking Jewish Voice for Peace into something with a broader focus, Israel can be an ally instead of a trillion dollar liability.
 
Covert? The nigga handed Ukraine a blank check and openly shovled BILLIONS of dollars worth of military hardware into the country. Our involvement was so explicit that if the Ukraine fiasco was an actual declared war, we would be considered a cobelligerent under international law.
We didn't bomb Russia ourselves. We kept our birds and our boys here at home. Granted, we sold the Ukrainians some of our older birds, but that's just selling shit, which is what we should've done with Israel vs. Iran.
 
I've been following the Resetera thread on all this and it's hilarious how much they are trying their best to not fawn over Iran, as if poor lickle Iran Din Do Nuffin' Rong!
It's weird how many leftists have come out of the woodwork to stan for Iran. They really are "anyone who hates America = good" contrarians.
 
Covert? The nigga handed Ukraine a blank check and openly shovled BILLIONS of dollars worth of military hardware into the country. Our involvement was so explicit that if the Ukraine fiasco was an actual declared war, we would be considered a cobelligerent under international law.
The comparison of Ukraine and this bothers me because of the ignorance it shows.

There are a ton of differences and I really disapprove of Israel's actions and Trump's but conflating the two is stupid.
 
The war with Iran doesn't herald World War III yet, but whatever it proves, it proves that it is just one violent revolution in the USA away and one bribed military from full-blown global collapse and WW3 at this point.

Do not forget what Trump said during the "No Kings" chimpouts -- "If the Marines and National Guard were not there Los Angeles will be obliterated" (or something like that).

Given he has shown his true colors right now, The Far Left have plenty of reasons and justifications to start the beginning of the very end and go totally nuclear. And expect the Far Right to follow. Now imagine if nobody's left to stop it because the CIA coerced the Marine and the NatGuard.
 
It's weird how many leftists have come out of the woodwork to stan for Iran. They really are "anyone who hates America = good" contrarians.
Among their many mental illnesses is another one I dub "Underdog-itis"

You really don't need to support an underdog as vile as Iran, but they'll do their best anyway!

"Israel is literally committing a genocide!"

*ignores Iran having boots on the ground in Syria, recruiting and arming proxies there and helping to kill 500,000 civilians*.

"BUT THE WEST DID THIS THING 70 YEARS AGO"
 
Reminder to everyone who loves speaking in the 'we' voice when discussing the U.S. government and its military actions, that the justification for hitting the world trade centers (and every other act of terrorism against civilian populaces) is that the people and their government in a democracy are one and the same, making the citizenry a valid military target.

So perhaps do us all a favor and stop with the 'we' shit. You didn't order, maintenance, transport, fuel/refuel, nor fly a fucking B2 bomber you sped.
 
It's weird how many leftists have come out of the woodwork to stan for Iran.
Be more concerned for the decades of Reublican Zionist traitors that duck Jewish cock every day of their lives whilst American white men have died for Jews and American riches have been siphoned off for Jews.

Republicans who supports trump's Israel shit are bigger traitors then any Democrat that doesn't support Israel.
 
Reminder to everyone who loves speaking in the 'we' voice when discussing the U.S. government and its military actions, that the justification for hitting the world trade centers (and every other act of terrorism against civilian populaces) is that the people and their government in a democracy are one and the same, making the citizenry a valid military target.

So perhaps do us all a favor and stop with the 'we' shit. You didn't order, maintenance, transport, fuel/refuel, nor fly a fucking B2 bomber you sped.
People like to root for a team.
 
We all know Vance is "based" and talks like a Farmer, but I wonder if he truly does hate Israel and hates our ties to them, but obviously can't say anything. Trump is old, he is the last voice of conservative boomers. Israel and him are a package deal. How many of his younger cabinet members despise Israel and are just waiting for the Boomers to die out before they can adjust our foreign policy?

I mean fuck man. I would elect Kanye at this point if it meant we could de-couple from them. End dual citizenship and remigrate anyone who doesn't denounce their Israeli citizenship to be here. I'm trying to not fedpost but the future of our country is in the balance and we keep prioritizing other FUCKING LOSERS!
 
Everyone coping and dooming and seething and shidding and farding is just hilarious.

Trump has been clear since he started mouthing off on 15 years ago on Twitter that the US shouldn't be soft on Iran, and subscribes to the idea of the loud mouth backed up by a big stick.

There will be no war as a result of this, Iran has nothing to retaliate with and no allies to come to their aid. There's no need for "boots on the ground" when all objectives have been achieved and the enemy is completely neutered.

Instead, you will actually see more peace in the world because we've just seen a tier 1 American equipped force completely strangle and destroy a Russian and Chinese equipped military in days.

Do you think there will be much noise in the Straight of Taiwan or South China Sea now that the great experiment of F-35 air dominance has had such amazing results?
This, I don’t see any war coming from this.
Trump did a strike, took out the only things that would have lead America to war, and said “good day.” If anything, this is how it should be.
 
On the one hand, this was 100% unnecessary and Trump should've just told the Israelis to obliterate Iran themselves (which they would've done with glee).

On the other hand, Iran deserved every one of those bombs.

My only regret is that Holden Bloodfeast John McCain isn't alive to witness this.
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