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My condolences for those of you still holding out hope.
Tamers12345 - Autistic Sonic and Bartleby Shipper and Video Maker
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This was so, SO close to being on par with, if not better than, BWTB. The meta jokes at the beginning had me laughing the hardest I have at a Tamers vid in awhile, then 40-45 minutes in, more gay pony melodrama. But I understand why it’s there. It was advertised as an MLP movie first and foremost.
Lore wise, it looks like the Tamersverse is now getting the multiverse treatment. The SU universe, the MLP universe, a PPG universe, a Winx Club universe, and a DBZ universe. I’m interested to see where this goes.
So glad that Tamers has still got it.
Lore wise, it looks like the Tamersverse is now getting the multiverse treatment. The SU universe, the MLP universe, a PPG universe, a Winx Club universe, and a DBZ universe. I’m interested to see where this goes.
So glad that Tamers has still got it.
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The bait and switch into pure ponies halfway through was surprising. The SU stuff felt very unaffected overall by the melodrama, which I know some people were worried about. It's honestly strange watching two wildly different kinds of tones / humor interact. Also, I'm now convinced Marionette only exists so Tamers can do something with Trixie's most popular ship behind Twilight (with Starlight Glimmer) without actually having it be Trixie.
The horse rape is when I was actually like "Okay what the fuck is going on" and got snapped out of the monotony of the return to horses. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a continuance of the plot if for no other reason than it being an actual tangible source of conflict. What happened to the Tournament of Power thing though? I really thought that was ramping up to a final battle with a bunch of shows, and would've "wrapped up" things way better. Nothing felt wrapped up in this special. I'm sure this isn't the last of anything we saw, though.
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My Little Pony getting 41% makes a lot of sense.
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I genuinely think it's because the MLP characters are easier to animate in the kind of slap-dash fashion requires to get the episodes out while also looking a lot more ''professional'.
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I think Tamers can write engrossing, believable ponies the same way he can do it in Sonic Underground, but there's just too much of the romantic stuff whenever ponies are onscreen. It's also incredibly demoralizing when he puts so much effort into Mary Lulamoon, her characterization, problems and relationship woes just to remember it's this character:
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Mary is a hyper feminist man hater, but when she gets with a woman she abuses and rapes her. What did Tamers mean by this?
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Tamers even at his lowest writes the most realistic depictions of gay characters in all of media. One of the most realistic lesbian relationships ever and it's from MSPaint pony show that was formerly an MSPaint Sonic show.
Nobusuke Kishi
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This new episode made me very nostalgic for the days of Sonic going on white trash adventures. Why it gotta be like this 
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honestly what really hits me is how quickly and how suddenly the mood of this thread changed. Before everyone was nearly excited to be able to see our favorite pair of fags would be in the spotlight again and maybe some hesitation over sharing it with the horses, but everyone was genuinely happy to see Bardonic return to the fold.
In the span of a single hour everyone's hopes was crushed (barring the faggots on /mlp/) and even seemingly spat on by Tamers- or at the least it only poured salt onto a freshly open wound as we wanted a new episode of Sonic Underground and got shafted with them functionally pushed out of the spotlight. As if Bartleby and Sonic weren't even supposed to be there but just props to jingle in front of our eyes like keys for stupid babies while the 'movie' focused on opening up more gay ponydrama. This kind of shit and switchup is what psychologists wish they could study. From forlorn hope, hype, to bitter betrayal in the span of less than 24 hours.
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I get why having to wait an entire year for more Sonic Underground discourages people, but what we did get was about an entire episode's length. That's one more episode than we've been getting (zero), on principle I'd like to encourage improvement. Even if these episodes start coming out on a bi-weekly basis (and the two properties have to share a video), that's better than nothing. If there's another year-long hiatus after throwing the Sonic Underground a bone, then I'll get a rope.
It also gave me the opportunity to directly compare SU's lower "stakes" to the pony stuff, which has gotten to the point where there's about four reality-bending characters wandering around in that setting. Amazing how mild social awkwardness and an inability to relate to her family effectively endeared me to a Sonic character, while all these epic battles and grand reveals in pony content have failed to accomplish the same. It's a shame, since I can see Tamers' talent at character development peek through. It's just buried in horse shit.
The Death Moon
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The first 35 minutes or so was classic Tamers I didn't bother to watch the rest.
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Honestly I'll say for how much I despised the movie, it really was an easy way to compare and see how the contrast between the SU property is handled and how the MLP property is handled. I will admit my doubts over how Tamers handled SU despite the year long break were wrong. He's still got the magic touch, the Montclair touch I'd say.
And then the MLP stuff despite all the attempts to make them deep and complex all feel the same. Every pony feels the same at a certain point. All 'deep' and 'introspective', some real slow-burning, bone-chilling, atmospheric, meta-redefining (literally too), avant-garde characters but they just do not work within Tamer's world. Maybe if Tamers just branched them off as a proper spin-off and separated the two franchises I wouldn't hold such contempt for them, but since MLP and SU are connected at the hip, it's impossible to properly disconnect them and stop comparing them.
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It literally felt like two different episodes. And I’ll reiterate what I said earlier: I get why he ended it off with pony melodrama. It was advertised as a pony episode. And now we’ve got multiverse shit at play so we don’t know what to expect now.
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I don't mind Sonic and ponies touching at all. One of Tamers' many tricks is his ability to weave things together with minimal explanation yet enormous implication. I'm here for those big, fascinating catastrophes. They're unique reflections of a savant personality that I can't predict even after watching him for years.
For example: this episode features a bunch of Dragonball Z characters who show up out of nowhere. Each one has characterization distinct from their "real" counterparts. They interact with Sonic and ponies in humorous ways, then wrestle in some new plot element before exiting stage left. Goku is now a wifebeater who shits in the backyard, calls everyone in his friend group "the Super Saiyans" (Tamers isn't familiar with DBZ lore), references Yu-Gi-Oh! while attempting to kill the Sonic Underground (because Tamers likes that card game), and pays Spike to anonymously tell Twilight Sparkle (the duo no longer interact, unlike in the real show, because Tamers doesn't watch it) that there's an important tournament in the future.
It's all so Tamers. Every inch of what he produces feels like a reflection of the artist.
I don't feel that with the ponies, at least when the stakes begin to rise. I can predict (important word) every interaction with these ponies is going to result in romantic contrivance, with minimal guest stars to shake things up. The seams of the pony universe will start to come undone eventually, if only to try and make things seem important. The (for lack of better word) power levels of various characters will continue to rise out of control. Sometimes there's odd things I don't expect, like characters changing gender or a bowling episode that's actually good, but these surprises don't come often like with Sonic Underground.
Undeniably the pony stuff has some kind of appeal, the man wouldn't be making money off this series if there weren't redeemable qualities. But I've yet to find them. Even if I did, I'm afraid I still wouldn't think they're as good as Sonic Underground.
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The more I think about it (without having rewatched it), I think the problem also lies in the structure of the movie itself and that with different editing and pacing it would leave a lot better impression. The SU segment works because it has a clear setup for the future (Jackie Chan's betrayal) that happens close to the ending. The pony stuff is set up so that the future story (DBZ multiverse tournament and the Boys but with ponies) happens all at once, then the Twilight/Trixie/Mary melodrama all happens at once, so melodrama is what you remember. I don't think that you could mix the SU stuff into the pony stuff without expanding it out to include Bartleby investigating Jackie Chan further, but if you mixed the two halves of the pony story together more it would probably feel better. As for mixing ponies and SU, I'm all for Tamers having a bunch of different characters mix together as long as it's as autistic as possible, just like he's always done.
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The SU-Lucky Star clip with music (posted to Patreon).
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Damn, look at Sonic's giant blue cheeks barely contained within that skirt.
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I'm not going to lie, the whole gay pony melodrama is just entertainment junk food to me.
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Maybe I'm just tweaking, but did Bartleby seem a but out of character in that movie? I don't recall him ever cowering over a threat, so hearing him openly concerned about something like the Powerpuff girls feels out of character.
Also fuck tamers for only putting knuckles in that dance sequence and nothing else man. He's a fuckin baddass
Also fuck tamers for only putting knuckles in that dance sequence and nothing else man. He's a fuckin baddass