2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Dana scully]

Play this when US soldiers dragged to die for Israel.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

America is oil independent at this point. The only benefit would be cutting off a slightly cheaper source of oil for China

That does not change the fact that American troops are in Syria right now, building more and expanding the outposts they occupy.

 

[draggs]

Play this when US soldiers dragged to die for Israel.

Sorry I have decided we are going to kill for Israel instead

 

[LovisXVI]

Multiple possibilities: 1 America has a retarded love affair with regime change. 2 America wants to secure a site (oil fields, nuke sites, etc). We've been occupying a good chunk of Syria for a while now, plus we're still in Iraq. Even trump wanted to secure the Syrian oil fields, remember? "We have the oil, etc". There is a precedent for America to put boots on ground in places we don't need to be.

Well, all the successful regime changes that the US military has instituted have been via bombing. If the US were to get involved in Iran as a long-term thing, I would think it would take the form of some support for a stupid color revolution + bombing the Iranian military to soften up the government for a swift overthrow by a more palatable government. It would be cheap, and the US wouldn't need to occupy anything.

 

[bread n circuses]

Tell me you don’t know anything about the Iraq wars and the lessons learned from them without telling me you don’t know anything about the iraq wars: the post.

Btw, not every military actions goal is to topple a nation. I suggest you go at least read Clausewitz before you make a fool of yourself in the future

The lesson was that Americans have low tolerance for military casualties and that full scale invasions and occupations are no longer politically feasible.

This is why they must content themselves with blowing up nonexistent nuclear threats while leaving hostile regimes intact.

If you don’t think America’s ultimate goal is to overthrow the Iranian state you’re a drooling retard.

 

[SBG]

The dying gasps of a decrepit empire.

When the US declared war on Iraq, they toppled the government and destroyed the army within weeks. Today it can’t even put boots on the ground out of fear of internal instability.

The fall can’t come soon enough.

The US isn't really a failing country and is still honestly better in a lot of ways than most other countries.

The main reason the US doesn't want to put boots on the ground is because everyone would view it bad politically in the US. Where things get demented is Trump and friends arguing it doesn't count as the US being embroiled in the conflict unless the US puts boots are on the ground in Iran.

Then you have issues like this:

That does not change the fact that American troops are in Syria right now, building more and expanding the outposts they occupy.

People voted for Trump, in part, to end these endless conflicts. Then instead we're expanding in the Middle East and even joining in bombing the country Israel is at war with? It's just ridiculous how voters' concerns are pissed upon by politicians and especially Trump now that he's back in power so long as they can avoid political accountability.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

Well, all the successful regime changes that the US military has instituted have been via bombing. If the US were to get involved in Iran as a long-term thing, I would think it would take the form of some support for a stupid color revolution + bombing the Iranian military to soften up the government for a swift overthrow by a more palatable government. It would be cheap, and the US wouldn't need to occupy anything.

Germany and Japan, the first two major regime changes wrought by the US ( and friends) were not brought about by bombing. Iraq fell quickly. Afghanistan fell quickly. It was keeping them that was costly, and once we stopped occupying Afghanistan, it didn't stay regime changed.

 

[EyeGuy]

From Israeli Telegram:

The Iranian prophecy that fulfilled itself

This morning I wanted to write to you about the great Iranian prophecy that has just come true. Forty-five years ago, Khomeini invented a story for the Iranians that the United States is the "Great Satan," and Israel is its "Little Satan," and together they constitute the new Crusade that seeks to eradicate Islam from the world.

This story was complete nonsense. The last thing the United States of the 1970s was interested in was eradicating something from the world - perhaps itself. Israel of the late 1970s wanted only one thing: normalization and peace. Not exactly the terrifying duo of devils.

For 45 years they have worked to realize this impossible scenario, and tonight they finally succeeded. Tonight they truly made Israel as the "Little Devil" prepare the ground for the "Great Devil" to join, and meet their devils working together.

The Americans were a lazy, fat big devil. The United States, as the "big devil," barely allowed its "little devil" to smash the Iraqi reactor, which was nothing compared to the Iranian nuclear program. For many years, they opposed any Israeli action against the Iranians. As far as the big devil was concerned, they would have been willing to sign a nuclear agreement with Iran 100 times over, if only the Iranians were willing to be flexible.

But the Iranians went all the way and got exactly what they bargained for. As Trump said, 45 years of chanting "Death to America" finally amounts to something.

Hardening the Heart: God's Basic Tactics

Now that we are standing on the ruins of the resistance axis that sought to throw us into the sea, we must honestly say: I don't think we can give ourselves a lot of credit for managing this war.

In fact, I think and believe that if things had developed "naturally," we would have lost it a long time ago. There were many, many junctures where our enemies could have caused this war to end in our defeat and all they had to do for that: was compromise a little .

- If Hamas were willing to release all the hostages in exchange for guarantees of an end to the war, it would accept its continued rule in Gaza and Israel's defeat in the actual normalization of October 7.
- If Hezbollah had accepted a ceasefire agreement with Israel in the first months of the war without demanding Israeli withdrawals, we would have been ready for it in Shopi, and Hezbollah and Syria would have remained intact along with the entire Shiite axis.
- If Iran had signed a nuclear agreement with the United States, which would have hindered their nuclear program, they would have become rich and prosperous, with the ability to build 100,000 ballistic missiles and manage their axis with a strong hand.

There is a common denominator to all the gross errors that the enemies have committed: irrational hardening of the heart . If there is a clear and classic handprint of supreme providence in this war: it is the foolish stubbornness of the enemies to go against us to the end, when we are clearly willing to be content with very partial achievements.

Like any self-respecting miracle, this miracle is not difficult to explain using "normal" cultural, self-interested, and strategic tools. The thing is, this is not the first time for us. From Pharaoh to the present day, when the God of Israel wants to demonstrate His intervention, He gives the wicked the willpower to go along with their plans even when a reasonable person would have decided to bow their heads.

What makes it all the more ironic is that Pharaoh is a symbol of foolish stubbornness that destroys itself as a punishment from Providence not only in Judaism, but also in the Quran and Islam. However, the idea does not seem to have been fully internalized there.

 

[slungus22]

Three impact sites confirmed following Iranian missile barrage: Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Nes Ziona

https://x.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1936666805856096403

 

[Revolver Salesman]

Steve's preparing the air fryer.

Update: the food actually looks OK and Steve's going to start eating now.

 

[Kornheiser]

If Iran had put up more of a fight we wouldn’t be talking about the us bombing Iran right now. When Israel took out the defense systems and was bombing with impunity in realpolitik terms the us was always going to strike it’s just how it goes.

 

[bread n circuses]

The US isn't really a failing country and is still honestly better in a lot of ways than most other countries.

The main reason the US doesn't want to put boots on the ground is because everyone would view it bad politically in the US. Where things get demented is Trump and friends arguing it doesn't count as the US being embroiled in the conflict unless the US puts boots are on the ground in Iran.

Then you have issues like this:


People voted for Trump, in part, to end these endless conflicts. Then instead we're expanding in the Middle East and even joining in bombing the country Israel is at war with? It's just ridiculous how voters' concerns are pissed upon by politicians and especially Trump now that he's back in power so long as they can avoid political accountability.

The US is not a failing state, it is a declining hegemon that is seeing its influence in Eurasia wane.

It would do a lot better internally if its government recognized this and stopped trying to be the world’s police force. It could continue to comfortably dominate the western hemisphere for a long time.

 

[LovisXVI]

Germany and Japan, the first two major regime changes wrought by the US ( and friends) were not brought about by bombing.

What? The large-scale strategic bombing was the most significant factor in the collapse of both of those countries' war efforts. The air force leveled entire cities in Germany and Japan. Famously, they dropped two nuclear bombs, and then it was essentially settled as no one wanted to send anyone into the doubtless grinding attrition of an invasion of the home islands.

 

[Lonely khan]

Nasheeds are something special (see below), but Gage's is danceable and more memorable.

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You can tell you are seeing a distant culture when you're watching something with subtitles and you still don't what the fuck every 5th word means.

 

[Sexy Peach Emoji]

What? The large-scale strategic bombing was the most significant factor in the collapse of both of those countries' war efforts. The air force leveled entire cities in Germany and Japan. Famously, they dropped two nuclear bombs, and then it was essentially settled as no one wanted to send anyone into the doubtless grinding attrition of an invasion of the home islands.

I must be imagining the massive follow on occupation that occurred where Germany did not exist as a nation, only zones of occupation administered by the US France UK and the soviets.

 

[EyeGuy]

Are you winning, goy?

Dancing Israelis (Haifa):

Jerusalem:

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

From Israeli Telegram:

There's a question about why the book of Esther is in the Jewish biblical canon since it's a comedic book with lots of twists and turns instead of the normal fare. It doesn't even mention God once. Why does this book get its own holiday?

This is the most relevant book for our situation- God obscures Himself, we have no prophets, we are in exile, seemingly subject to the whims of degenerate rulers like Ahashverosh and villains like Haman. And yet He is constantly with us and watching over us. Even when he seemingly abandoned us on Oct 7th, he was already setting us up for the destruction of our enemies.

We don't live in Clownworld, we live in Purimworld.

 

[Dana scully]

The United States reminds the world that it'll fuck up whoever it wants, whenever it wants. Utterly based, God damn I love this country I now call home.

Allowing sandniggers that have actively been involved in killing Americans a nuke is cucked behavior. Move to Canada if you want to live in a cucked country.

The United States is the new Rome empire

Btw the axis of resistance tg channels have been suspiciously quiet either they are planning something or were silenced

 

[Ghostse]

Biden was supplying Ukraine at a rate much greater than the production levels. Reducing the US strategic stockpile. This is mainly to refill that. Although never rule out something nasty on the horizon.

The US has been slowly offlining large shell production for about half a decade before Ukraine popped off for upgrades. Putin went in when the US only had one half-shutdown factory in service making shells for about ~6 months at reduced volume until the first upgraded plant in Scranton went online. The army was burning shells faster than they could make them before Ukraine popped off.

Ukraine got the budget freed to bring the Mesquite plant online ahead of schedule, Iowa finished and a 2nd site in Texas moved from "mothballed" to "full upgrade with aims of full shift operations". The US is not just catching up and getting ready to supply Ukraine, they are also back filling deliveries from SK and NATO members who sent shells to Ukraine in exchange for an IOU, and testing what throughput in their new factories really look like.

Additionally, given shell consumption Ukraine the expected shell reserve numbers have been adjusted upward by a significant deal.

Basically this wasn't known or expected anymore than any situation that dips into a strategic weapon reserve.

It intrigues me, the way Iran has burned all bridges. If they wanted to take down Israel, it would surely require the entire Middle-East banding together. Instead of building alliances, they fund terror groups that make everyone miserable. It's weird, but I suppose this is why clerics shouldn't be statesmen.

God willing, the internet in Iran goes back up soon so I can call some family and see if they're alright.

Iran doesn't have allies. They have clients; clients that demand payment. When those checks dry up, or aren't worth effort, there also go the clients.

“No more brother wars” retards get fucked.

Iranians are dune coons and not my brothers anymore than the Pajeets are.

The Vietnamese are very chill with Americans. They’ll start any conversation with how much they hate the Chinese though.

I had a friend who was dating a girl, 2nd generation Chinese. Never been to china, never met the mainland relatives, only knew other whites and some of the chinese expat community. She jumped a table and had to be held back from attacking a girl who called her Korean because and I quote "I'm chinese! I ain't no fucking dog eater, Bitch!"

I think about that anytime anyone talks about Pan-Asian solidarity.

The US has a long history of blowing its enemies up from a long distance away, dating all the way back to WW2. It's cheap, palatable, efficient, and non-comittal, all things that the public likes when it comes to military action. Precisely what would even be gained by invading Iran? A retarded boondoggle in one of the most mountainous regions on the planet, Afghanistan but bigger.

WW2? My nigger, for longer than that. In the late 1700s we sent our first purpose-built warships to go fuck up some pedoworshipping sand niggers in north africa.
"Fuck with the US, get bombarded" is practically the foundational axim of the US.

 

[thx1138]

WW2? My nigger, for longer than that. In the late 1700s we sent our first purpose-built warships to go fuck up some pedoworshipping sand niggers in north africa.

They touched our boats.

The Houthis, with Iranian backing, touched our boats.

The Iranians, in what kicked off Operation Praying Mantis, touched our boats.

Iraq touched one of our boats with an Exocet. It just took us a while to get back to them on the matter.

Don't touch our boats.