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Inspite of all my grievances with this forever war crap, I'd easily pick voting trump over the hellbitch known as Kamala.
Or Joe "Rapist Pedophile Sniffer" Biden.
It was an easy choice when the other options were so raped.

This is on purpose tho. Get both sides so polarized by making each side sound crazy af (while both sides largely enact the same fucking shit just at different speeds and different PR spins). Then get everyone saying "voting accomplishes nothing" so everyone just gives up on any Republic form of govt and we can switch it up to a technocratic police state.
 
There are Americans on this site who are retarded enough to think that Iran has an existential beef with the US beyond our role in funding Israel, but they're a distinct minority.
To be entirely fair, Iran is ran by muslims, and muslims have an existential beef with literally everyone. Israel is a justification, not the reason they do retarded shit.
 
Same gif applies, if this is all it takes for you to stay home it means you're the fairest of fair weather friends. Or this is another op of 'I'm a life long Republican voter but Trump did this one thing, and I'm out!!' like the white dudes for harris fags.
If this actually starts a war where Americans have to put boots on the ground that's more than Trump posting mean tweets and some retard saying "well at least the other party has decorum," it's him completely betraying his base. Go on xitter to see what most of his base there actually thinks of this, this is not like the RINOs at the Lincoln Project running fake ads about Republicans totally being against Trump.
 
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Ngl, I'd still vote Trump. What, would I not vote and let Rapist Mcgee or "I sucked off every politician to get here" run the country?
It's definitely not ideal but the alternatives were obviously worse. And not voting is a waste of what little power you have.
When has the popular vote ever truly mattered though?
 
To be entirely fair, Iran is ran by muslims, and muslims have an existential beef with literally everyone. Israel is a justification, not the reason they do retarded shit.
Agreed.
This is on purpose tho. Get both sides so polarized by making each side sound crazy af (while both sides largely enact the same fucking shit just at different speeds and different PR spins). Then get everyone saying "voting accomplishes nothing" so everyone just gives up on any Republic form of govt and we can switch it up to a technocratic police state.
Probably.
 
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Yah no big deal, who cares right?

The gloves are off nigga, they've been turning Tel Aviv into Kosher Swiss cheese for the last month, you don't think they're gonna do the same thing to US bases. Niggers saying everyone else has goldfish memory conveniently forgetting the only reason the Soleimani killing didn't escalate further than bombing a few US outposts was because COVID basically shut down the world a month and a half later.
Iran pulling a massive terrorist attack that results in the deaths of dozens, if not hundreds, of people is their best-case scenario if they want to do actual lasting damage to the US. Now of course this would mean war, and therefore the imminent collapse of the current Iranian regime.

Whatever quagmire clusterfuck Iran turns into after that would be anyone's guess. I'm going to take an educated guess that the Iranian regime doesn't want to commit suicide and wants to stay in power. I just included the terrorist attack angle because there's a small possibility they could pull it off, not because I think there's a realistic chance they would be successful, or would attempt it.

Also, while Israel has been taking a beating, only 24 have been killed so far. Compare that to the amount of people that died on Oct 7th and the current war going on in Gaza that is fucking peanuts. While there are admittedly a ton of injured Iran doesn't have an unlimited supply of long-range missiles to be throwing around. Oh and it's not like the IDF is just sitting on their ass, they're striking Iranian missile launchers as we speak.

Covid happened a month and a half later after Soleimani. Ok...and? The Iranian retaliation happened within the same week as his death, and then Iran quickly made it clear that was all they were going to do.

The gloves aren't off nigga. I'll take a nothingburger with a side order of fries please.
 
Ngl, I'd still vote Trump. What, would I not vote and let Rapist Mcgee or "I sucked off every politician to get here" run the country?
It's definitely not ideal but the alternatives were obviously worse. And not voting is a waste of what little power you have.
I get what your saying, I just don’t like the idea of rewarding political parties that don’t act in the country’s best interest, with that said at least there were some in Trumps immediate circle that were opposed to the strikes so at least it’s not all lost
 
You don't need a technocratic police state if you have a technocratic corporate structure that rents politicians.
Hell, the corporations can do everything the state can't, and vice versa.
Put them together and they're taking on both sides.
 
Huh. They planned this for months.
Well, I feel like more of a bozo lmao. Oh well. Good to know.
The Pentagon always plans strikes in advance, so they can give the President options. At any given time they're planning dozens of possible ops and contingency plans. It's their job.
We might. This certainly wasn't a popular move
Outside the more excited parts of the Internet (JOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZ, amirite), most people either agree with the President or don't give a fuck. It's always possible that Nick Fuentes will be right about something someday. But it's not this day. :shit-eating:

Calm down faggots, we're not going to invade Iran. and nobody's gonna draft you :hulk:🇺🇸
 
I get what your saying, I just don’t like the idea of rewarding political parties that don’t act in the country’s best interest, with that said at least there were some in Trumps immediate circle that were opposed to the strikes so at least it’s not all lost
Is it not in the country's best interest to NOT let insane Muslims have nukes that they could give to terrorists, strap to a plane, and ram into a US city? Be honest.
 
We poke Iran
Iran bricks Hormuz
Gas $20
BOOM U.S. ship sinks suddenly
MSM: “IRAN DID IT!!!” (Hands rubbing furiously under desk)
Congress: “MORE WAR, FUND OUR MILITARY AND ISRAEL”
You: broke, dying, uninsured, eating ramen dust
Pentagon: “we need $1T for democracy to topple the regime”
Bridges collapse, your 401k dies
Fell for it again award
Enjoy iShekel and eternal war, retard
Clownworld.exe running
Honk honk
 
Is it not in the country's best interest to NOT let insane Muslims have nukes that they could give to terrorists, strap to a plane, and ram into a US city? Be honest.
I think most Americans don't actually think Iran is a threat to us. And they would be right if we minded our own business.
 
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I do think there's more nuance to this than Bush's WMDs.

Trump created this situation when he left the nuclear deal in 2018, the deal China, Russia, and the EU were all part of with the intent being Iran never making a nuclear weapon with assurances, (cough cough Ukraine). If all these countries didn't want Iran to have a nuke, Trump probably did everybody a favor at the possible cost of the Republicans during the midterms (but don't worry they'll be back when Dems inevitably overstep). Israel revealed Iran still had the data on how to make a bomb and moral fagged over it but you can't expect any country to just throw out that research. By throwing the deal out Trump gave Iran no reason not to pursue research. The more I read on this situation and Iran as a whole, the more convinced I am they did want a nuke.

If Trump is so sure their nuclear capabilities are gone he should've hinted at loosening sanctions if Iran comes to the table or even loosened them a bit as a show of good faith. Maybe Trump knows they didn't actually get everything, which would be embarrassing considering the ball washing him and Bibi did last night. If this is where the US military involvement ends it probably won't bite him that badly in the long-term. This is what people thought the Afghanistan invasion was supposed to be; a surgical strike simply to end a threat. Trump already bombed Iran before with the MOAB and that didn't become a ground war.
the bush WMD thing was just a repeat of what his father did when he was president for war profiteering and i dont think there's much else of a romantic explanation for it. it was also posturing themselves as reactionary to clinton, who was a popular president in terms of public relations but might just be one of the worst presidents in modern memory when it came to brass tacks. so it's not much of a surprise the brass decided to buy more tacks.

the US's response comes off as "we're solving your problem whether you like it or not" which is why there's fear of this escalating into a bush style "insurgent conflict", or a clinton style "binding resolution" but it's obvious the whole point of this was for trump to be able to posture about how amazing and powerful the US military is while trying to keep his hands clean as much as possible. the parties involved don't have the resources to embroil themselves into a traditional conflict. both iran and israel wants to posture that they have the resources to fight a war but they obviously don't., which is exactly why israelis keep posturing about putting american boots on the ground to escalate the conflict despite it being a seemingly bad plan for all parties involved. its not a surprise trump decided to put on a big show and posture about something more or less inconsequential to make himself and his administration look good.
 
insane Muslims have nukes that they could give to terrorists, strap to a plane, and ram into a US city?
It’s not, however the US government has used Muslims as a smokescreen for Israel’s benefit for way too long, you can prevent terrorist attacks without destroying Israel’s primary geopolitical rival in the region for its benefit
 
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