Unless Jim himself has defended loli or has been known to defend it I think the whole argument's a load of shit, and it's as I said earlier: People trying to find that "gotcha" moment, that one soundbite that they can play over and over to taunt the Jim orbiters with forever. What Kirsche says or does is irrelevant, you can't say people are guilty by association or half the internet would be a guilty party to this kinda shit. And if the best admission you can get outta him is a sarcastic remark I think you oughta get checked for autism, not understanding sarcasm is one of the many traits associated with autists.