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Would you rather want the holy land run by Jews or Muslims? You got to pick one because the crusades aren't happening anymore (and they weren't very successful tbh).
I literally do not care. My faith is not contingent on who holds it as long as it’s not being burned down and realistically when has there ever been a time it wasn’t burning. I am generally pro Israel in principle it’s the governments behavior toward us that I hate and the influence in our government. If Israel can exist without our lifeline great, if not I’m sorry man but that shouldn’t be our problem.

In addition there is the demographics problem with current Israel. What happens when the majority of the population is Mizrahi and haredi. When that happens what’s to say it won’t just be a Arab tier shit pile
 
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So the red pill is this case is making her a Zionist? I’m confused
She's a progressive leftie muslim (whose obsessed with a Jew go figure). Also I never understand why right wingers are anti-zionist. Zionism is the belief that Jews should have their own homeland right? And some of the more religious/extreme ones want all Jews around the world to move to Israel. So if you believe that Jews are destroying the west/your country wouldn't you WANT them all to move to Israel? I mean it gets rid of the Jews WHILE killing muslims/arabs.


Being anti-zionist is only "based and red pilled" if you think Muslims are based and red pilled.
 
I just wish municipal and state level public officials stayed away from foreign affairs. Malibu goes up in flames and Karen Bass is in Ghana of all places. Why?

The federal government, in particular the executive branch, is the explicit entity of foreign affairs and Trump/Vance/Rubio talking to Israel or Russia or the UK is perfectly within their job description.
 
Would you rather want the holy land run by Jews or Muslims? You got to pick one because the crusades aren't happening anymore (and they weren't very successful tbh).
Being anti-zionist is only "based and red pilled" if you think Muslims are based and red pilled.
Your posts are a lot funnier with this knowledge you're not a young man, but a baby boomer trying to "redpill" a much younger woman.
 
She's a progressive leftie muslim (whose obsessed with a Jew go figure). Also I never understand why right wingers are anti-zionist. Zionism is the belief that Jews should have their own homeland right? And some of the more religious/extreme ones want all Jews around the world to move to Israel. So if you believe that Jews are destroying the west/your country wouldn't you WANT them all to move to Israel? I mean it gets rid of the Jews WHILE killing muslims/arabs.


Being anti-zionist is only "based and red pilled" if you think Muslims are based and red pilled.
There are no anti-zionists on the right. There are plenty of people who don't want to pay for zionism though.
 
She's a progressive leftie muslim (whose obsessed with a Jew go figure). Also I never understand why right wingers are anti-zionist. Zionism is the belief that Jews should have their own homeland right? And some of the more religious/extreme ones want all Jews around the world to move to Israel. So if you believe that Jews are destroying the west/your country wouldn't you WANT them all to move to Israel? I mean it gets rid of the Jews WHILE killing muslims/arabs.


Being anti-zionist is only "based and red pilled" if you think Muslims are based and red pilled.
i didnt know the context that you were Jewish I was not trying to start to sperg off I am sorry
 
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She's obsessed with me but slowly I've been red pilling her. I've taken her from "zionism= evil" to "muh settlers". If anything talking to retards like that hones my arguments/oritoral skills.


Yes I'm that fucking bored.
Convincing someone that Zionism isn’t evil is what constitutes as “red pilling” now lmao? What’s next, you’re going to convince her that working a dead end job and forgoing marriage and maybe copulating with a negro is “based”?

How fucking astroturfed is the internet with jewish propagandists at this point. They’re now trying to co-opt 2010’s era chan terminology.
 
I just wish municipal and state level public officials stayed away from foreign affairs. Malibu goes up in flames and Karen Bass is in Ghana of all places. Why?

The federal government, in particular the executive branch, is the explicit entity of foreign affairs and Trump/Vance/Rubio talking to Israel or Russia or the UK is perfectly within their job description.
I think it’s LA and NYC thing tbh
 
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I literally do not care. My faith is not contingent on who holds it as long as it’s not being burned down and realistically when has there ever been a time it wasn’t burning. I am generally pro Israel in principle it’s the governments behavior toward us that I hate and the influence in our government

It's an argument, one I disagree with but if you think Israel has too much influence on Israel (and not the other way around or that both countries have similar/the same interests/outlooks or that it's a mutually beneficial relationship for both nations) I can sorta see where you're coming from. But the thing I tell people is that out of all the middle Eastern nations (aka the homeland of the Christians) only in Israel has the Christian population INCREASED. Furthermore the religious sites are actually protected, the police make sure pilgrims aren't being harassed or killed and crimes against Christians are prosecuted (for example the Jews that spat on the Christians all were arrested/prosecuted by the police and the Israeli government apologized to the Christian community). I think today (or yesterday) there was a suicide bombing of a church in syria during mass, such things wouldn't happen in Israel. Also remember the Israelis have always backed and protected the Lebanese Christians.


But again I think there should be a Christian state in the middle east, either cut from Bethlehem or southern Lebanon or hell let them have gaza.


We glass The Middle East. Fuck it, if Christians can't get it back, nobody gets to have it, not the Mudslimes or the Jews
At least you're consistent
 
Depending you don't even have to slow roll it. My wife originally was like "muh feminism, u r a feminist aren't u????" She was pretty hot and I was into her but I straight told her, "lol, no, feminism is dumb, but you do you. but I will mock you if you bring it up." Within a few years, that's all it took. She grew to hate feminism pretty fast after that.
And then everyone clapped.
 
Are you ready to admit you were stupidly myopic on the JQ
I feel I've made pretty clear how I feel about it but since i keep getting asked I'll just write it all out here so i can link this post in the future. Long spergout incoming and point E is really the main one.
A:
A lot of jews are involved in clown world, no doubt about it. I simply do not believe that 100% of jews support clown world, or that 100% of clown world is downstream of jews. In fact I don't think they're much to blame for it at all, i think they're the carriage not the horse. I'll get to that in my last point.

That interview is absurd and I despise it but nothing new or unique. Kissing the ass of the country we're shacking up with is modern geopolitics. That anchor pretending the feed cut out when he was asked about the lab leak, the way trump praises japan for kicking our ass when meeting with them, and if you think JD Vance's wife being indian is just a coincidence you have no right to call ME naive. So many countries have their fingers in our system and have for so long it makes me sick but i'm not going single israel out for that.
B:
There's nothing new anybody here can teach me because you're all using the same points i've heard a hundred times. Even back when i was a good boy lefty I frequently browsed stormfront, chimpout, and used to see these arguments made on obscure web 2.0 forums because i like a wealth of exposure. I've seen the lists, the names, the history, the arguments, etc.
C:
You motherfuckers are obnoxious and boring. You act like you have exclusive rights to racism and you gatekeep being redpilled. You can't observe anything happening without bringing up jews, this thread was dynamic, had interesting points being brought up, and funny shit during the LA riots. The past two weeks it has been a shit show, the same 5 posts being made for a thousand pages. This happens EVERYWHERE jewsperging starts and it drives me crazy, even if I was 100% all in on JQ this would still drive me crazy because there's more than one kind of thing happening in the world. You guys have a single braincell that is constantly saying "fuck jews" and i dare say it's all so tiresome.

Nobody on earth is going to change their minds based on the arguments here because it's a gossip website that's supposed to be for laughing, if we aren't laughing then wtf are we doing? We're just reddit at that point. The main reason I flame with you guys on here isn't because I love Israel in a unique way but because you guys are the fun police.

I did not leave the party of fuck white people to join the party of fuck nose people.
D:
Your allegiances are unclear. I support America (and to an extent europe/canada etc) not just because it's ultra based but because it is mine. My family members live here, my friends serve in the military here, I own stocks here and my friends build structures here and are raising families here and soon I will as well. I want America to do well simply because it is mine. A disturbing number of JQ obsessives want America to do poorly because it's "controlled by jews". You accuse somebody i care about of having an illness and your only solution is to set them on fire.

Catch the Rainbow can be overly defensive about Israel and obnoxious, but he is currently in here celebrating a win for America over a foe that has long hated us while you guys are doing the opposite. He was in here earlier this month laughing at foreign rioters getting their shit kicked in. If jew interests and western interests are exactly aligned as most of you say, then what incentive does that give me to be against Jews' interests? I have a vested interest in this country doing well and people I care about here and will give my life for. "B-but that's exactly why the jews set up this dynamic!" And? You're still asking me to commit seppuku for your personal cause.
E: Here's really the most important part.
I believe the obsession with jews and Israel is an unhealthy scapegoat for our real problem which is that white people are too compassionate, productive, and enlightened for our own good. It is our greatest strength and our greatest weakness.

Looking out for the weakest member of the group is admirable and advantageous, as is being cautious about abuse of power, caring for the needy, etc. Long term and combined with other whites who are also programmed to be grateful and selfless (within reason) is a huge benefit and what enabled modern society to function.

The problem is we're now mixed geopolitically, and culturally, with people who speak a different emotional language than us. It Happened too fast for us to know what's going on. I do not believe jews brute forced this but our own desire to uplift people we saw as in need, the same way we see potential in a young child we saw potential in savages who had no interest in growing.

Jews defend illegal immigrants because they're lawyers who want money, but the teary eyed liberals who want to bring them in are caring white girls who's compassionate programming (the kind that works great in homogenous white societies) is telling them that people are in need and just need a chance, and their boyfriend's knightly warrior instinct kicks in as well.

This is what all clown world stems from, jews are along for the ride because that's what jews do, the feel the wind and adjust their sails to make a profit. But to blame them for the wind is to mistake the carriage for the horse.

Until we figure out how to face the reality that these other cultures are taking advantage of our kindness, while also maintaining the very compassionate "higher calling" soul that makes our culture superior to begin with, (and that makes life worth living), clown world will continue. And I don't think screeching about jews moves us toward that cause and as such is a waste of time.

The whitepill? Exposure is the cure for this and a lot of people are being exposed.
or we gonna spend another 1000 pages equivocating about it?
Please god no.
 
Would you rather want the holy land run by Jews or Muslims? You got to pick one because the crusades aren't happening anymore (and they weren't very successful tbh).
I’ll bite. I believe in a single state solution. I want to do to you people what you did to White South Africa. Sanction you to death internationally until you become a “multi-racial democracy” with open borders.
 
. But the thing I tell people is that out of all the middle Eastern nations (aka the homeland of the Christians) only in Israel has the Christian population INCREASED. Furthermore the religious sites are actually protected, the police make sure pilgrims aren't being harassed or killed and crimes against Christians are prosecuted (for example the Jews that spat on the Christians all were arrested/prosecuted by the police and the Israeli government apologized to the Christian community). I think today (or yesterday) there was a suicide bombing of a church in syria during mass, such things wouldn't happen in Israel. Also remember the Israelis have always backed and protected the Lebanese Christians.


But again I think there should be a Christian state in the middle east, either cut from Bethlehem or southern Lebanon or hell let them have gaza.



At least you're consistent
with the way Israel’s politics and demographics are trending tho how long is that going to realistically continue for? . This is what I meant about the second half of my post
 
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