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The Israeli state is going to have to last another 120 years or so to beat the Kingdom of Jerusalem in longevity. It's yet to be seen if the current Israeli state project will be more successful than the Crusader states (who controlled more territory than Israel ever has for longer).
But even then the Christians didn't establish a proper Christian state. in many ways it was just a Christian king. But it's hard to compare modern states to anything pre- treaty of Westphalia.

The Byzantine empire was more of a Christian state than Jerusalem ever was, and I'm ignoring the whole "eastern Roman empire" part.


If you take orders from the Holy see your not exactly a sovereign state. It's like saying that the Utah territory was a Mormon state


The Kingdom of Jerusalem wasn't exactly self sufficient and still had to answer to Rome. What I meant was a modern sovereign state. I hope we can have a state in the middle east that is for the Christians what Israel is for the Jews. Not just religiously Christian but culturally Christian too. I imagine if they have good a relationship with Israel (which I have no reason to think otherwise would happen) visiting the holy sites under Israeli control won't be an issue. Again I think we should let the Christians take Gaza or southern Lebanon. Fuck if the Jews could basically create Israel with private funding and land purchases the Christians can definitely do that in southern Lebanon.
 
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You know there was actual proposal for a Jewish homeland in Utah could you imagine how hilarious that would have been
That would've worked better. Easier for us to defend.

excellent post but I was more talking about the Jewish demographics. The country getting more mizrahi and ultra orthodox
The more ultra Orthodox they become, the less likely they'll take a stand against Iran. If the Hasidics take over Israel, they'll bend the knee to Islam and join them in hating on the Christians. Secular Israelis were the Christians' best friend in the region, and they'll soon be extinct and replaced by Christ-hating Yeshivas.
 
So you are suggesting appearing friendly but twisting the relationship through deceit to control the other person who trusted you?
This isn't an accurate read of what I think he's talking about. Well adjusted women generally end up following the political leanings of the primary male figure in their life, be it their father, boyfriend, or husband. This is why all of the insane single women effectively married to the state are that way in the first place. This is also why you should be looking for someone who is generally not "political" or "based" as a rule. It presents the same kind of "terminally online" issues that can be observed even in this thread with male posters.
 
It's a Love Shack, baby.

The religious Israelis are outbreeding the secular ones.
Yes between that and the increasing rightward shift was what I was talking about in my original post to fruit grower.

My point was is how long is going to be a western tier state when ultra orthodox and middle eastern Jews make up an increasingly large portion of the population.

As far as I can see left and labor Zionism is dead and liberal Zionism as a political force in Israel is declining. I’m curious what the thread Israelis think?
 
If the strike does nothing, it's them saving face. As long as they sit there and stew, it won't escalate. The fear is a major terrorist attack, but a non-casualty attack on a base in Qatar isn't major.

Although, I got a FUCKLOAD of consistent interference on my AM band radio after the missile attack (consistent beeps and data bursts on 1200 kHz interrupting the program, not just static or atmospheric interference) and that doesn't happen unless something wild is going on. So, uh, I am actually a little nervous.
I don’t recall anyone going: “I’m going to vote for Trump so we can spend a few billion dollars on a pointless bombing that didn’t do shit, followed by some Persians pretending to strike back super duper hard to not lose face, despite telegraphing the strike beforehand.

Gayest shit ever.

Why can’t Trump just stick to deporting illegals and making trannies seethe?!
 
That would've worked better. Easier for us to defend.


The more ultra Orthodox they become, the less likely they'll take a stand against Iran. If the Hasidics take over Israel, they'll bend the knee to Islam and join them in hating on the Christians. Secular Israelis were the Christians' best friend in the region, and they'll soon be extinct and replaced by Christ-hating Yeshivas.
Those ultra Orthodox don't do anything besides parasite off the rest of the country. So, Israel gets conquered if that happens.
 
The king of Jordan wanted Israel to be a sorta semi autonomous region within his kingdom but the Zionists were like "bruh no" that's one of the reasons why Jordan was never full on"Kill all Jews"
Another reason is that they’re just as fake of a colonizer state as Israel is. Just with a bunch of Bedouin’s and Saudi Arab instead of Jews.
 
Those ultra Orthodox don't do anything besides parasite off the rest of the country. So, Israel gets conquered if that happens.
My point exactly. And they'll have no problems bending the knee to Iran and hating on the Christiansn since they already hate Christianity and have no interest in resisting Islam.
 
I don’t recall anyone going: “I’m going to vote for Trump so we can spend a few billion dollars on a pointless bombing that didn’t do shit, followed by some Persians pretending to strike back super duper hard to not lose face, despite telegraphing the strike beforehand.

Gayest shit ever.

Why can’t Trump just stick to deporting illegals and making trannies seethe?!
Because MIGA > MAGA
 
So, if I'm getting this right since I don't follow this shit that closely. Trump, under pressure from Bibi, sent a few US bombers to Iran, dropped a few big ol' fuck you bombs that ultimately did fuck all to the Iranian nuclear program, and Trump is now having some serious PR backlash months into his second term?
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Truly the shart of the deal.
 
If the strike does nothing, it's them saving face. As long as they sit there and stew, it won't escalate. The fear is a major terrorist attack, but a non-casualty attack on a base in Qatar isn't major.

Although, I got a FUCKLOAD of consistent interference on my AM band radio after the missile attack (consistent beeps and data bursts on 1200 kHz interrupting the program, not just static or atmospheric interference) and that doesn't happen unless something wild is going on. So, uh, I am actually a little nervous.
I would be surprised if the US didn't take the invitation to destroy Iran's navy and costal armaments to stop their blockade of Hormuz.
 
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