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Feels a lot like the 2020 retaliation.
Because it is.
Iran gets massively fucked over and embarrassed, after taking advice from allies and their own hubris that Trump will do nothing because of his legacy, his base being against wars, and people thinking he is all talk.

Their Nuclear strategy now must start at step 1, (or earlier depending on how important those lead people are and their file/note keeping is).

After such an embarrassment they needed a way to say that they are getting a "win" without inviting more retailiation on by majority of the world.

So they'll launch a strike that they prementively warn will happen so they can physically strike back and they threaten the closure of oil passage in the sea, (which they'll never be allowed to do by their China masters) so that when they eventually come to the nogiating table they can project strength through this toothless threat.

Finally for Trump if all goes well this is what he has to gain:
  1. Tell the world that he is truly not afraid of military action.
  2. Project strength to backup his threats.
  3. Encourages enemies, (Russia / China /Mexico / EU) to negioate and come to the table. (if you wonder why EU and Mexico, keep in mind economic attacks can now be backed up that Trump can and will take action that may go against his base/popular support in order to back up his threats).
  4. Stops Iran from getting a Nuke.
  5. Hopefully stops Isreal's drive to pull America into the region and he can tell Bibi to fuck-off for the rest of his term. (which if we remember he was in the process of doing before these attacks).
  6. People forget that this happened or at least forget the fear they had during this time, like they did during his first term.
 
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...out of curiosity, what would you say the enrichment is of 1kg of a block of U-235?
No fucking idea. But I am pretty sure you need a lot of it to make a basic gun-type bomb. The one we dropped on Hiroshima was 64kg for example. And that bomb was incredibly ineffective.
What does that even mean LOL all governments on earth are lead by the wishes of men.
I'm talking deep in the depths of academic political science theory, however, if you believe your right to rule is granted from yourself/from God is very different than it being granted by the pope.


Again I have to stress I am talking theoretically, like academic political science.
 
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NYT (which does have a lot of sources in Iran) is reporting on the radio than Iran's attack is meant to be a face-saving action. We'll see what happens but I'm staying away from large crowds for the duration, just to be safe.
inb4 worm tongue bb convince trump it counts as retaliation.
 
Stop pretending you don't know how dictionaries work. This is warfare. Trying to say it's not just makes you look like you're always arguing from bad faith.

If you asked Americans if they believed that the slightest military action in some desert shithole half way across the world is considered war, I don't think they would agree.

I don't think many here were screaming that we were at war with Syria when Trump bombed that runway.

Go outside and ask your fellow American.

Was the US at war in 2017 and could you tell me about this war?
 
No fucking idea.
Well, good on you for being up-front about your profound mental retardation, at least.
But I am pretty sure
Why? You just admitted you have no fucking idea. You don't understand the first thing about the subject, such as the fact that enrichment refers to the proportion of U-235 to U-238. A block of U-235 is 100% enriched. It takes about 25kg of HEU (not even 100% pure stuff) to make a bomb. They could make several bombs with that amount of U-235.
 
inb4 worm tongue bb convince trump it counts as retaliation.
It looks like that's not going to happen due to Iran giving the US advanced notice of its retaliation. What I'm more concerned about right now is the info I heard about Iranian intermediaries telling Trump's people at the G7 that Iran has sleeper terror cells in the US. With 4th of July coming up, that is a spooky prospect.
 
...out of curiosity, what would you say the enrichment is of 1kg of a block of U-235?

A block of pure U-235 doesn't need enrichment because enrichment is the process of making it pure U-235.

The current assumption as I've heard it is that Iran has 400KG of uranium enriched to 60%.

The simplest bomb - a design like the US Hiroshima design - required 80% enrichment and 62kg of Uranium.

If Iran has 400KG at 60% enrichment, that means maybe 240KG of U-235 in it. Enough at present for maybe four crude nuclear bombs. But with a good modern bomb design with a neutron reflector, it would be enough for around 15 nuclear bombs.
 
Well, good on you for being up-front about your profound mental retardation, at least.

Why? You just admitted you have no fucking idea. You don't understand the first thing about the subject, such as the fact that enrichment refers to the proportion of U-235 to U-238. A block of U-235 is 100% enriched. It takes about 25kg of HEU (not even 100% pure stuff) to make a bomb. They could make several bombs with that amount of U-235.
yeah but what kinda bomb? gun type? Implosion type? I'm not discounting the threat.
 
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